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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77515983 United Kingdom 04/10/2020 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The new coronavirus has an HIV-like mutation that means its ability to bind with human cells could be up to 1,000 times as strong as the Sars virus, according to new research by scientists in China and Europe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78737718 The mutation could not be found in Sars, Mers or Bat-CoVRaTG13, a bat coronavirus that was considered the original source of the new coronavirus with 96 per cent similarity in genes, it said. [link to www.scmp.com (secure)] It’s a Supervirus, created in a lab. It’s doing exactly what it was engineered to do. It’s going to kill us all. We’re all just waiting to die at this point. Maybe it causes damage decades later, starting as it does ages 40's upward...just as it used to be with lifespans. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77740839 United States 04/10/2020 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People keep comparing developing a vaccine for this to making a vaccine for the original sars or mers and I don't understand why. those viruses killed maybe 3,000 people between both of them. the reason why a vaccine has been taking years and isn't a huge priority is because even if they made one you're not going to vaccinate millions of people over a virus that affects a couple hundred people every year. even people who believe vaccines work know there can be side effects and vaccinating entire countries to prevent diseases that barely affect them is not sound policy from any perspective. Clearly covid 19 is in an entirely different category of infection and death. It is worth it to vaccinate for disease that's killing at least a hundred thousand people this year and who knows how many more in future years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77515983 United Kingdom 04/10/2020 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SEOUL, April 10 (Yonhap) -- More than 90 people who fully recovered from the novel coronavirus have tested positive for COVID-19 again, health authorities here said Friday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78737718 [link to m-en.yna.co.kr (secure)] Coronavirus May ‘Reactivate’ in Cured Patients, Korean CDC Says [link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)] Coronavirus: low antibody levels raise questions about reinfection risk Scientists in Shanghai say some recovered patients show no signs of the neutralising proteins. Early-stage findings could have implications for vaccine development and herd immunity, they say [link to www.scmp.com (secure)] Looks like the only way we can be safe is if they are rounded up and put on a floating concentration camp! Yes ive been toying with the idea a few weeks now. |
Shadow Dance User ID: 59490123 United States 04/10/2020 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | calm down everyone.. Quoting: Grove Street 'they' got you in hysterics.. most people dont even know biology anymore.. once youve had something even if you are better you are going to test positive because you had it. doesnt mean you are sick. We are talking about people getting SICK again, not just 'showing positive for the virus on a test'. These people in a lot of cases are going to drop dead of an infarction, because of the damage done to the lining of the heart the first time. At this point in time, it doesn't matter one bit whether this was a leak from a lab or a freak jump between animals - it is obvious that genetics are everything when it comes to how badly the virus will hit a person. We are living in a global version of the short story 'The Lottery', and unfortunately the *only* hope for our modern civilization to continue is for everyone to just go back to living a normal life at normal jobs. There is no 'avoiding the virus' - period. All this 'social distancing' does is delay the time in which everyone on the planet will be exposed to the virus. In the end, you either feel shitty for a couple of weeks or you die. There is no magic vaccine waiting at the end of the rainbow. The treatments will get better, but we don't have the luxury to keep society shut down while we tinker around with various drugs trying to keep grandma from croaking on a ventilator. This is also obviously not your bread and butter ARDS result that we have seen from just about every virus in Humanity's history. This is a blood disease, it starves your body of oxygen by disrupting the normal action of hemoglobin. I don't know why the news isn't talking about the fact that in 100% of the serious cases directly tied to COVID-19, the 'pneumonia' that presents is *always* in both lungs. Not a viral pneumonia - period. We won't survive even one more month of a 'shutdown', the damage being done to the economic infrastructure is likely already too much to ever go back to the way things were. We have to start thinking about this like a War, one in which there are horrific casualties that are going to have to be accepted to save what's left. well said EXACTALY ! they are getting SICK again! ... why would they get tested again - if they weren't sick again ...and this information was shared EARLIER ... back when it was still in Wuhan ... they clearly stated that " getting the virus DOES NOT GIVE YOU IMMUNITY - you can get it repeatedly " ... I remember this clearly, and was shocked to read later that - it was ASSumed that it gave you immunity when it got to the USA in Feb ... and that recovered patient's blood was being used as a "cure" ... for others who had already been confirmed "infected" because it contains the antigens to fight it ... just like ALL viruses - traces of the Corona viruses remains in your blood - whether you are a-symptomatic or NOT ... and to date, they have no way to determine if the CORONA virus in your blood is COVID 19 (A,B,C or D) .... or evidence of the "common cold" or a flu virus (you got previously) - traces of it remain in your body ... along with the antigens your body produces to keep it under control so testing to see who has "immunities" - so they can go back to work is bull-shit -- we have ALL had a cold or the flu - so we all have Corona Virus antigens in our blood stream ... and if or when, our immune system is compromised by additional "complications" that weaken it, you are very likely to develop "the flu" again and again as it mutates "flu" vaccines are total and complete bull-shit - they add more Corona viruses to your bloodstream ... perhaps a strain that you didn't already have - so the shot makes you sick - or it will make you sick if you immune system is weak - but it does not PREVENT you from getting the flu - which IS a Corona Virus - it is injecting the virus into you ... in hopes that your immune system is strong enough to deal with it IMO it is safer NOT to take the "flu shot" than it is to risk exposing yourself to a strain of it, that your body doesn't already have anti-bodies for ... because even if you are healthy, you will get sick while your body fights to create antibodies to control it ... and that is what makes these "test" complete and utter bullshit as well ... because all they are telling you is IF you have a Corona Virus in your blood - and IF you may or may not have the antigens to control that specific (unidentifalbe) strain - which accounts for so many FALSE neg and pos results - considering all the mutatING strains of the Corona Virus that exist ... and the Medical Industry - admittedly- has NO cure for wake the fuck up ... the Med Ind has NEVER cured anything ... EVER - it would be a conflict of interest to "cure" what they can charge you to TREAT THE SYMPTOMS of, for YEARS ... with some "treatments" necessary - with harmful side effects - for the rest of your life The entire Health care system is a RACKET - if you want to be and stay healthy, you need to eat ORGANIC FOOD, drink pure water and get plenty of sunshine and fresh air - which will give you a STRONG immune system, that will keep you from getting dis-eased -FOR-EVER This pandemic is undeniable PROOF that the Med Ind is completely INCOMPETENT and doing MORE HARM THAN GOOD - they admitted a Century ago that they do not have a "cure" for the Corona Virus AKA the common cold and or flu ... and they NEVER WILL - which is what makes it the most likely candidate for a bio weapon - which this strain that we are now all exposed to - IS --- with documentation from bio-labs around the world that verified these findings in 2019 before it left China YOU are responsible for your body's state of BEING - healthy or not ... NATURE not Science provides all the things to keep you healthy ... UNCONDITIONALLY (for free) GMOs, pharmaceuticals, and chemicals in our water and air - along with WIFI and now 5G frequencies and all the extra radiation from the FUshima meltdown - alter, fracture and destroy in some cases, your bodies natural abilitiy to repair itself ... BY DESIGN Last Edited by Shadow Dance on 04/10/2020 12:38 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77515983 United Kingdom 04/10/2020 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, every time you read something like this. Take a deep breathe and remember: This is all a hoax. Quoting: TinfoilHatMan I keep letting myself get carried away too. This is all a hoax. Yeah but the powers dont give a fuck about us, it would be fine for them if it drove their nefarious agendas AND was a culling device. |
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Fhirinne User ID: 75973915 United Kingdom 04/10/2020 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cuz it's a bioweapon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77014201 It reinfects you till you die. It's an ELE, that's why they closed Wuhan so fast. Yes it came from a lab but if it was as bad some say. Every deep state person and world leader would have bailed on us all and gone to the bunkers ages ago. They would have left us all to die and came back out years after all this has burned out. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78655452 United States 04/10/2020 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what part of 8 different strains going around do y'all not get? So giving plasma from “recovered” patients probably not a good idea Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78007325 antibodies do not make you sick but will not protect against the 8 other strains, but may make the infection not hit you as bad. Maybe the tests are bullshit? I've heard so much about false negatives, false positives and things like that which make me really question these tests. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77334039 I agree and highly doubt it can detect the difference between covid 19 and any of other coronavirus strains . I would trust a labs testing over a generic "quick test"... |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 04/10/2020 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for all we know it could be a new mixture Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76733064 they chemtrail us with, which is affecting our lungs this way. they claim to care for our health, yet we are being sprayed almost daily like some dirty insects. and yes, there are people who are affected healthwise from those chemtrails. we heard doctors talk about chemtrail lungs, should we not believe them but everything concerning this virus that happened to cause a dangerous pandemic just at the right political time? who tries to gain more power and profit? that's were I see my answer these days. Right, we just aren't getting enough information. Doctors aren't getting enough information. Why is the information flow so bad for an advanced society? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77740839 United States 04/10/2020 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what part of 8 different strains going around do y'all not get? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78655452 So giving plasma from “recovered” patients probably not a good idea Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78007325 antibodies do not make you sick but will not protect against the 8 other strains, but may make the infection not hit you as bad. Maybe the tests are bullshit? I've heard so much about false negatives, false positives and things like that which make me really question these tests. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77334039 I agree and highly doubt it can detect the difference between covid 19 and any of other coronavirus strains . I would trust a labs testing over a generic "quick test"... You misunderstand the concept of a Viral strain. Being a "New Strain" doesn't mean the way the virus acts, how it will react to a vaccine, ect. All it means is it's a particular grouping of the virus scientists have decided on in order to categories it better. In this case, the biggest reason to identify strains is because it helps them figure out how it's spreading (IE, if one of a certain strain shows up somewhere, you know where it came from.) I see how you could be confused because Flu "Strains" can potentially have differnt vaccines, but right now we don't know at all if the different strains of Coronavirus will require separate vaccinations, and in all likelihood they will not. Of course there's no way to be certain until they're developed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4513930 United States 04/10/2020 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe the tests are bullshit? I've heard so much about false negatives, false positives and things like that which make me really question these tests. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77334039 You sound like a dumb ass. Learn these basic statistics: 1) The Normal Curve / Bell Curve it's relation to a Normal Distribution 2) Standard Deviation 3) Mean 4) Confidence Interval 5) Significance Level (AKA: Alpha Value) 6) Beta Value 6) Type I and Type II errors Once you understand these, you should have a decent understanding of false positives and false negatives. |
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The Ghost of Comedian User ID: 49838646 United States 04/10/2020 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe the tests are bullshit? I've heard so much about false negatives, false positives and things like that which make me really question these tests. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77334039 You sound like a dumb ass. Learn these basic statistics: 1) The Normal Curve / Bell Curve it's relation to a Normal Distribution 2) Standard Deviation 3) Mean 4) Confidence Interval 5) Significance Level (AKA: Alpha Value) 6) Beta Value 6) Type I and Type II errors Once you understand these, you should have a decent understanding of false positives and false negatives. Why don't you explain what the test is actually detecting and why you could get a false positive? You haven't actually explained why the tests aren't bullshit. Last Edited by The Ghost of Comedian on 04/10/2020 12:37 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78515776 United States 04/10/2020 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Use you thinking caps. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77125760 How could someone who has recovered, and built up anti-bodies, get infected again? ANS: They didn't have a germ in the first place. This is more evidence that this is a form or RF poisoning, or people particularly sensitive to 5-G technology getting irradiated, or microwaved again by the 5-G transmissions. I'm not advocating doing any damage to the 5-G Network. Contact your elected officials and have them form a committee to investigate this possibility. I don’t live in a 5G area and we have tons of cases and a handful of deaths. So I’m confused about the 5G theory. Use your mind correctly. Confused is not the right response to this barrage of 5G conspiracy crap. If you don't live in 5G area, and you have tons of cases and deaths, that means 5G conspiracy theory is retarded. Indonesia doesn't implement 5G yet. But they get lots of cases and deaths. So, this 5G theory is total idiocy from a bunch of imbecile conspiracists. Just look at the retarded conspiracist above you. he claimed didn't have germ is the evidence of RF (or 5G) poisoning. Why not other poisoning? Fact is, those conspiracy r4etards are forcing their ridiculous retarded opinion onto the situation and attempt to force everyone to believe their retarded theory. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78707779 Serbia 04/10/2020 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rule by fear. Always works. Fear makes you weak, renders the immune system almost useless so there you go. We fear "the virus", we fear what it might do to us... kill us god forbid... and we become a nice little heard of sheep. Works like magic. Hell. There's diseases in almost all animal species. Every now and then some deadly virus culls big numbers of living things whatever they might be... Birds, fish, insects, mammals... but life still goes on... |
MarkinAZ User ID: 78587282 United States 04/10/2020 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Similar to other viruses that can remain dormant and reactivate in the future (herpes, chicken pox, etc.) and even some bacteria (tuberculosis) that can do the same. Quoting: Callin The treatment for HIV/AIDS is daily dosing of various antivirals and the drugs only slow the replication of the virus. The drugs manage the infection but they do not cure it. If patients stop talking the meds the disease progresses again and eventually kills the patient. The cost of the antivirals is between 25,000 and seventy thousand per year. Imagine every person with covid 19 needing similar Meds in order to stay alive?? |
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MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 04/10/2020 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While some idiots assume this means you can be re-infected by the virus, I ask if this means the test is flawed. I've heard the claim that the test isn't testing for coronavirus, that it's actually testing for exosomes. Exosomes can be produced in the body by a number of causes. Quoting: The Ghost of Comedian the test is brand new... so it's possibly flawed. US had to get numbers to prove Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD). |
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MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 04/10/2020 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Use you thinking caps. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77125760 How could someone who has recovered, and built up anti-bodies, get infected again? ANS: They didn't have a germ in the first place. This is more evidence that this is a form or RF poisoning, or people particularly sensitive to 5-G technology getting irradiated, or microwaved again by the 5-G transmissions. I'm not advocating doing any damage to the 5-G Network. Contact your elected officials and have them form a committee to investigate this possibility. I don’t live in a 5G area and we have tons of cases and a handful of deaths. So I’m confused about the 5G theory. Use your mind correctly. Confused is not the right response to this barrage of 5G conspiracy crap. If you don't live in 5G area, and you have tons of cases and deaths, that means 5G conspiracy theory is retarded. Indonesia doesn't implement 5G yet. But they get lots of cases and deaths. So, this 5G theory is total idiocy from a bunch of imbecile conspiracists. Just look at the retarded conspiracist above you. he claimed didn't have germ is the evidence of RF (or 5G) poisoning. Why not other poisoning? Fact is, those conspiracy r4etards are forcing their ridiculous retarded opinion onto the situation and attempt to force everyone to believe their retarded theory. right. Unless this 6G frequency is directed from another source. If they released a biological weapon then is there a separate trigger? Years from now we will look back and have the answers. retrospect is a funny thing. |
Butch DeFeo User ID: 78675521 United States 04/10/2020 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The new coronavirus has an HIV-like mutation that means its ability to bind with human cells could be up to 1,000 times as strong as the Sars virus, according to new research by scientists in China and Europe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78737718 The mutation could not be found in Sars, Mers or Bat-CoVRaTG13, a bat coronavirus that was considered the original source of the new coronavirus with 96 per cent similarity in genes, it said. [link to www.scmp.com (secure)] Thread: PREDICTION: The goal of the Corona Virus is to get the entire world's population on HIV pharmaceuticals for LIFE. :DOCSRBAFFLED::redblueLED::DONTBEAPANDEMICS: Only you can stop the fake pandemic for yourself, no one will ever tell you the pandemic is over. It's time to WIN. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77874552 United Kingdom 04/10/2020 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe the tests are bullshit? I've heard so much about false negatives, false positives and things like that which make me really question these tests. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77334039 That’s what I think could be happening +2 People being recorded has having it without accurate testing. Also the politics that dictate positive and negative tests depending on which Country you live in. |