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Biden Administration wants to TAX Unrealized Capital Gains!!!

 
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They better hurry then because the housing market looks like it’s about to drop property values.

Do I get money back if that happens?
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You won’t pay anything unless you have more than a billion dollars in assets.
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Is this the same thing? Probably ...

Pelosi Confirms Wealth Tax On Billionaires' Unrealized Gains Is On The Way

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The proposal under consideration from Senate Finance Committee Chairman Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) would impose an annual tax on unrealized capital gains on liquid assets held by billionaires, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Sunday on CNN.
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The tax is expected to affect people with $1 billion in assets or $100 million in income for three consecutive years, according to a person familiar with the discussions.
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This one will probably not effect anyone on this website
 Quoting: Satirist


That's what I got out of it too from listening to her speech.

She's going after the super rich who spend their time manipulating the markets and hiding their wealth.
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They better hurry then because the housing market looks like it’s about to drop property values.

Do I get money back if that happens?
 Quoting: Nipples McGee


You won’t pay anything unless you have more than a billion dollars in assets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79316656


Do you really believe Billionaires are going to just shrug and accept losing money?

History teaches they shrug and inflate prices and let the consumers eat it.
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Soon, you will own nothing and be happy!
FCK the WEF! Keep your hands off my country!
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I heard that Biden is a Pedo.
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Re: Biden Administration wants to TAX Unrealized Capital Gains!!!
TAX UNREALIZED HOUSE GAIN TOO. EVERY YEAR
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HAHA

When rich people wake up and realize they need the ideas and help of the oppressed poor, maybe we can unite and move on.

Otherwise the elite are going to slowly destroy you.

RICH PEOPLE ARE THE DUMBEST OF ALL PEOPLE
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HAHA

When rich people wake up and realize they need the ideas and help of the oppressed poor, maybe we can unite and move on.

Otherwise the elite are going to slowly destroy you.

RICH PEOPLE ARE THE DUMBEST OF ALL PEOPLE
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Those have most to lose did the least. Screw them.
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Great way to crush the stock market, 401ks and home ownership.
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 Quoting: BroDude


Your POST? Yes, it CERTAINLY is.

YELLEN mentioned that, NOT Biden, NOT Congress.

dumbass



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Re: Biden Administration wants to TAX Unrealized Capital Gains!!!
Next they will tax the air you breathe.
 Quoting: Tiger One


they already do, the tax on your electric bill from running your AC.
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robinhood sells retail order flows in real-time while hedgies are allowed to take up to three months to report a trade. that makes it possible for the markets to manipulate options prices every morning. Do you suppose the markets are manipulated to the benefit of retail traders?
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Hi
Would you please explain this to me like I’m a 5 year old
Thank you
 Quoting: Deplorablemeeeeeeeee!


Say your house goes up in value on Zillow 30 or 40 thousand. Although your house hasn't sold yet or even for sale currently, you will pay a tax on that as unrealized capital gains.

You have a classic car in your garage, that year it went up in value. You will pay a tax on that.

Remember, you will own nothing and be happy about it.
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I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty.
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I’m sure the rich democrats will love being taxed like that .

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 Quoting: BroDude


Your POST? Yes, it CERTAINLY is.

YELLEN mentioned that, NOT Biden, NOT Congress.

dumbass



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4812794


They always give you a warm-up first.You are delusional if you think this is not where things are heading.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty.
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or lower the market cap? right now is a billion later is a million doing problematic times? like ww2? they use pandemic as a reason to lower the value on the unrealized gain amount.
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I’m sure the rich democrats will love being taxed like that .

bsmeter
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Why would they be taxed? They will just put everything in offshore trusts and have loopholes that they can get out of.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty.
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Notice how they never think about maybe lowering their expenses or cutting down on pork.
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This cannot possibly pass. It will destroy the stock market as everyone will have to sell at the end of the year anything green or risk paying taxes on something that later drops!
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Re: Biden Administration wants to TAX Unrealized Capital Gains!!!
I would say there is no way it would happen, but we are in bizzaro world. How the hell are they going to even calculate this?

Do we calculate every price change, once a day, once a month or only at the exact price on 12/31/20xx at 11:59pm?

I'm not sure the full ramifications of this, but it sounds insane.

Makes it even harder for those with less money to hold onto assets. Guess that is the point though. How else are you going to own nothing? They'll worry about the "be happy" part later.
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What happens when there are loses?
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TAX UNREALIZED HOUSE GAIN TOO. EVERY YEAR
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Only for multiple residences! My dad bought his house in 1975 for 25k, paid it off and now owes $8000 a year in property taxes! That's more than his mortgage ever was! Now he has to consider selling it because it's valued at like 800k. How is that fair?? It's terrible what they are doing to people!
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I don't understand how democrats have any supporters with the policies they enact.

It's like Democrat voters don't pay attention until voting time. Then once voting is over they hide their head in the ground like an ostrich until the next voting season.
 Quoting: Blank Man


They share a hive mind that only knows what it is told. They are incapable of personal thought or rational behavior.
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This is ridiculous. No wonder they want to hire tens of thousands more IRS agents.

Made a $50 unrealized gain on a stock trade? You better report it to Uncle Sam!

My guess is next they'll take away long term capital tax gains rate and everything will be considered ordinary income, no matter how long you've held it.
 Quoting: BroDude




Wait, so:

A house is worth 100k it rises in value to 120k

The owner has to pay taxes on the additional 20k.

The owner sells said house for 120k, they have to pay taxes AGAIN on the same "gain"?
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You got it. Ya know what, fuck these scum bags.
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Re: Biden Administration wants to TAX Unrealized Capital Gains!!!
Not sure why any of you are getting upset with this. It only affects Billionaires.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80678673


Until that pesky rule is changed, for the benefit of everyone, of course, as always

Details, come on, man
 Quoting: Gorgol


The rule will only be changed to benefit the wealthy if the republicans regain power in 2022 and 2024. It's time for the fat cats to pay their fair share. We've been footing the bill since Reagan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80678673


The top 10% pay will over HALF off all income tax, and the bottom half actually GET money.

You’re lazy.
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Great way to crush the stock market, 401ks and home ownership.
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ain't communism great!
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Re: Biden Administration wants to TAX Unrealized Capital Gains!!!
Is this the same thing? Probably ...

Pelosi Confirms Wealth Tax On Billionaires' Unrealized Gains Is On The Way

[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]

The proposal under consideration from Senate Finance Committee Chairman Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) would impose an annual tax on unrealized capital gains on liquid assets held by billionaires, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Sunday on CNN.
 Quoting:


The tax is expected to affect people with $1 billion in assets or $100 million in income for three consecutive years, according to a person familiar with the discussions.
 Quoting:


This one will probably not effect anyone on this website
 Quoting: Satirist


That's what I got out of it too from listening to her speech.

She's going after the super rich who spend their time manipulating the markets and hiding their wealth.
 Quoting: NOLAangel


That's some funny shit. Pelosi 'IS' one of the super rich who spends her time manipulating the markets and hiding her wealth. In fact, look around... the wealthiest people you probably know are all Democrats.

So... then... who do you really think their tax proposals are really for?
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Re: Biden Administration wants to TAX Unrealized Capital Gains!!!
TAX UNREALIZED HOUSE GAIN TOO. EVERY YEAR
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77903747


Only for multiple residences! My dad bought his house in 1975 for 25k, paid it off and now owes $8000 a year in property taxes! That's more than his mortgage ever was! Now he has to consider selling it because it's valued at like 800k. How is that fair?? It's terrible what they are doing to people!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81048452


Communists do this.

They also kill millions along the way.
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That's a good way to reverse the illegal immigration. Cleaver.
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Re: Biden Administration wants to TAX Unrealized Capital Gains!!!
When do the people start using that magic word... No.
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Re: Biden Administration wants to TAX Unrealized Capital Gains!!!
If you don't have a self-directed ROTH IRA, now would be a good time to open one.

$6K max contribution per year ($7K if you're 50 or older)

All gains are tax free when you withdraw them later, which you can do after the account has been open for 5 years or more.
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This cannot possibly pass. It will destroy the stock market as everyone will have to sell at the end of the year anything green or risk paying taxes on something that later drops!
 Quoting: FightForGod!


That's already the case on short term capital gains in the last 30 days of the year.





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