Lawsuit to stop the CERN Hadron Collider | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 289264 United States 03/28/2008 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 336814 United States 03/28/2008 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm kind of in the middle between you two guys. I think they should re-examine everything before they even think about going through with this. The possibility of being sucked up into a black hole is a pretty convincing reason to hold off on this for a while. |
Viper User ID: 312619 United States 03/28/2008 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not understand how a black hole could be created from this. A black hole is created when the gravitational field of a body is so large that it collapses into a point. Two particles being smashed into each other at extremely high speeds will not create a black hole. Let There Be Peace |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 336814 United States 03/28/2008 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I'm not far from knowledgable on what causes them but according to the article "Runaway black holes: Some physicists say the LHC could create microscopic black holes that would hang around for just a tiny fraction of a second and then decay. Sancho and Wagner worry that millions of black holes might somehow persist and coalesce into a compact gravitational mass that would draw in other matter and grow bigger". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 398726 Netherlands 03/28/2008 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say the LHC should go on with its experiments as planned. There is a lot to learn. Maybe science will learn something new and we will get out of this stasis that particle physics has been in for the past century. Quoting: ViperI can understand people's concerns. However, their were also a lot of reports about a chain reaction affecting the earth, when they first wanted to test the atom bomb. Of course, that didn't happen. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 336011 United Kingdom 03/28/2008 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm kind of in the middle between you two guys. I think they should re-examine everything before they even think about going through with this. The possibility of being sucked up into a black hole is a pretty convincing reason to hold off on this for a while. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336814but the whole point of the experiment is to discover something currently unknown, beyond our current understanding. Theories are often proved wrong by experiment and often backed up by experiment. All the theory in the world might not prepare us for what may happen. Saying all that I agree that they should be doing everything possible to be sure that we are not all turned into spaghetti. It's exciting though. |
a passing cloud User ID: 222706 United States 03/28/2008 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, SOMETHING went blooey in our solar system millions of years ago...some say it annihilated an entire planet in the process, as well as dealt a nearly lethal blow to mars. i would not put it past a budding hi tech society, whose scientific progress surpassed their common sense, to have a catastrophe when messing with these awesome forces. in the universe great forces are balanced by great counter-forces. not so in this particle collider. it could not destroy the earth, okay, but realistically it could cause as much destruction as a small atomic bomb. guess we won't know till they push the happy button. why did i send myself to this world?? there must have been a reason. |
LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 399142 United States 03/28/2008 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let them create their micro singularities. Really, it's more stupid Ludites running around with no idea what the fuck they are talking about. Bring on the time travel! Bring on the next giant leap in technology! I can't wait to see & play with a Kerr black hole! "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
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Starseeder User ID: 322788 Canada 03/28/2008 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say the LHC should go on with its experiments as planned. There is a lot to learn. Maybe science will learn something new and we will get out of this stasis that particle physics has been in for the past century. Quoting: ViperAs long as the advancement of science is the main objective, it's fine with me, but we all know that the millitary sector will corrupt and turn every discovery made with this LHC machine into a potential weapon of DOOM. Simplicity is the key to Heaven...more than ever. Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Mat 18:3) |
shevar User ID: 361032 Netherlands 03/28/2008 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who the fuck do those americans think they are? CERN isn't located in the US, hence US courts shouldnt have shit to say about it. And if you do think that's good because you belief that CERN will have implications for you then I'm sure you would want for example American soldiers to be judged and trialed in Iraq by Iraqian law as well? Last Friday, Wagner and another critic of the LHC's safety measures, Luis Sancho, filed a lawsuit in Hawaii's U.S. District Court. The suit calls on the U.S. Department of Energy, Fermilab, the National Science Foundation and CERN to ease up on their LHC preparations for several months while the collider's safety was reassessed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 400065 Sweden 03/28/2008 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a Computer Game out there called "Forsaken" in which a "subatomic experiment went terribly wrong in a lab and the catastrophe ripped off the planetary atmosphere...now the dead Earth is free to be plundered by the galactic scum..." so said in the game description; a great shooter game...did the gamemakers catch a glimpse of the future? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 129376 United States 03/28/2008 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure if this has been posted but I thought I would post anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336814Yes, already a thread here: Thread: Doomsday fears spark lawsuit |
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8() I User ID: 399792 Italy 03/28/2008 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not understand how a black hole could be created from this. A black hole is created when the gravitational field of a body is so large that it collapses into a point. Two particles being smashed into each other at extremely high speeds will not create a black hole. Quoting: Viperviper,viper... allias allias saab aktani... Wake -up!!! WE DO NOT NEED THAT BULLSHIT COLLIDER.John E W KEELY found it all.And,His inventions were STOLEN. WE DO NOT NEED that LHC machine. It will widen the portals.And,this time,THE INVASION will occur COMPLETELY. -We will lose this planet. -We will fall AGAIN BIG POLLUTION. google STARFISH (nuke in space...3x) good night. Anyway,that atuwaa won't function,this time. You are all done,stupid reptilians clones. organic portals. ------------------------------------ 00 () --- |
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stop it now or before now User ID: 399792 Italy 03/28/2008 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1954 - Enewetak Atoll Operation Castle was a series of high yield thermonuclear weapon ... when rocket motors malfunctioned (Starfish and Bluegill Prime) link: [link to www.ouinsider.com] |
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NEVER EVER MORE OF ANY!!! User ID: 399792 Italy 03/28/2008 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WE ARE FED -UP OF THE REPTILIANS AND THE SAALM & EVIL ANNUNAKIs. Dot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 318022 United States 03/28/2008 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not understand how a black hole could be created from this. A black hole is created when the gravitational field of a body is so large that it collapses into a point. Two particles being smashed into each other at extremely high speeds will not create a black hole. Quoting: ViperSame here. A black hole = an incredible amount of mass. So unless they intend to suck the entire Sun and planets and probably quite a bit more mass into their lab, I think we're safe. |
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Gisgaia User ID: 359500 United States 04/03/2008 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please see this thread started by Skeptical Believer on 4/3/08: "So what's really the deal with this CERN Particle Accelerator??" Thread: So what's really the deal with this CERN Particle Accelerator?? =================== This is topic could be the most important item ever!!!! |
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