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Jacobs trouble is seven years. and half has been.

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The Time of Jacob's Trouble

Daniel's 70th Week

is the 7 years of the Tribulation.

It has not started.

The Two Witnesses get 3 1/2 years,

then Antichrist kills them and rules completely for 3 1/2 years.
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Umhm
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Jacob is Israel.

It's not about The Church of believers in Jesus Christ.

Not one of you understands this.

Not one of you.

Few there are.

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Read the Bible for yourself.

Revelation 13:5-10

5And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. 6It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. 7Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, 8and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain. 9If anyone has an ear, let him hear:

10If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.

Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.
 Quoting: Shark150


Revelation 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
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Every single one of you is certain you know all...
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you are right op, unfortunately I see many "Christians" saying that they will be raptured before the tribulation, unfortunately they will be disappointed most want to be raptured, I understand they have families they are afraid of receiving the mark of the beast them and their families it will be necessary as a martyr in the family then
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Every single one of you is certain you know all...
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Few do.

The vax is the mark of the beast.
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Every single one of you is certain you know all...
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You sad there isnt a rapture?kimdowtcwy
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Every single one of you is certain you know all...
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Few do.

The vax is the mark of the beast.
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You think the mark is the first 3.5 years of trib, I'd shut up if I were you.
It's just a bad day, not a bad life. If you run, I will run, until my last breath.
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you are right op, unfortunately I see many "Christians" saying that they will be raptured before the tribulation, unfortunately they will be disappointed most want to be raptured, I understand they have families they are afraid of receiving the mark of the beast them and their families it will be necessary as a martyr in the family then
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It will be worse that dissappointment. Some will believe that God lied to them, but He did not. People who said that they knew the scriptures well lied to them. And for failure to ask Jesus directly about this, they believed the lies of men. This will cause some to fall away.

And many of the leaders and pastors who misled the people will have a lot of explaining to do. Those seeker friendly churches may have some people willing to beat and occasionally kill their own leadership for this "misunderstanding".

When Jesus came to earth 2000 years ago, did the leadership of the established religion know it or understand it at all?

No, the only people who did were 3 men who were shemites but not Israelites, and the lowest caste of Hebrew society of the time, the shepherds. This should be a lesson to people. The mainstream leadership has it wrong again now and are doing lots of damage to the flock.
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Every single one of you is certain you know all...
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You sad there isnt a rapture?kimdowtcwy
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Well there is a rapture, 7 years + 40 days after the start of the tribulation period. We already know when it is to the day. We just don't know the exact start date of the sequence but once we see that, we will know the date then.

The equation is:

Rev 12 (1260 days 1st half) + Dan 12 (1335 Days) = 2595 days when saints are lifted off the earth. Up in haven for the wedding for about 1 year ({Day of the Lord) then return to earth in Rev 19:11.

Days of Noah 7 days in ark (7 years) + 40 days/nights rain = 2595 days when Noah's ark was lifted off the earth. Above the earth for about 1 year then return to the ground.

There are rules for interpreting the word day as it applies to the end times and within the final millennium designated by the 7th day from the 1st adam and 3rd day from the second Adam (Jesus 1 Cor 15: 45-47) 1 day = 1 year.
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Jesus knows.
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You don't.

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you are right op, unfortunately I see many "Christians" saying that they will be raptured before the tribulation, unfortunately they will be disappointed most want to be raptured, I understand they have families they are afraid of receiving the mark of the beast them and their families it will be necessary as a martyr in the family then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85057089


It will be worse that dissappointment. Some will believe that God lied to them, but He did not. People who said that they knew the scriptures well lied to them. And for failure to ask Jesus directly about this, they believed the lies of men. This will cause some to fall away.

And many of the leaders and pastors who misled the people will have a lot of explaining to do. Those seeker friendly churches may have some people willing to beat and occasionally kill their own leadership for this "misunderstanding".

When Jesus came to earth 2000 years ago, did the leadership of the established religion know it or understand it at all?

No, the only people who did were 3 men who were shemites but not Israelites, and the lowest caste of Hebrew society of the time, the shepherds. This should be a lesson to people. The mainstream leadership has it wrong again now and are doing lots of damage to the flock.
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there will be a kidnapping but that's what will have survived, chaos and death, you have to be ready to die killed or starve, that's sad, but we who live in western countries will be the most affected I think by the antichrist and the mark of the beast
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Every single one of you is certain you know all...
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You sad there isnt a rapture?kimdowtcwy
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Well there is a rapture, 7 years + 40 days after the start of the tribulation period. We already know when it is to the day. We just don't know the exact start date of the sequence but once we see that, we will know the date then.

The equation is:

Rev 12 (1260 days 1st half) + Dan 12 (1335 Days) = 2595 days when saints are lifted off the earth. Up in haven for the wedding for about 1 year ({Day of the Lord) then return to earth in Rev 19:11.

Days of Noah 7 days in ark (7 years) + 40 days/nights rain = 2595 days when Noah's ark was lifted off the earth. Above the earth for about 1 year then return to the ground.

There are rules for interpreting the word day as it applies to the end times and within the final millennium designated by the 7th day from the 1st adam and 3rd day from the second Adam (Jesus 1 Cor 15: 45-47) 1 day = 1 year.
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You can calculate all ya like, so long as your calculations agree with Jesus return on "THE LAST DAY" No amount of calculating will vary Jesus prophesy of "on the last day"naughty

Its crystal clear for even the young of mind and heart.
John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
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Yes. This is why one is supposed to "worship only God" --- Jehova
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The Time of Jacob's Trouble

Daniel's 70th Week

is the 7 years of the Tribulation.

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This is an assumption on your part.

Nowhere does the Word of God call Daniel's 70th Week the '7 year tribulation'.

Nowhere.

Antichrist reigns for 3.5 years.

The first 3.5 years have already been fulfilled by Jesus in His time.

Read Daniel carefully to see what is accomplished during Daniel's 70th Week.


I'm certain that you will not do that, however.

You will stick hard on your assumptions and thus you will fall hard.
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When the remaining 1/3 of Israel begs Jesus to forgive them and save them

He returns to them to do just that.

Now you know what it's all about.
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very insightful and simple.

and it is another reason why the satanic rapture futurist etc lies deceptions and doctrines are deceitful. their complexities and twisting's of His simple truths to fit their complicated positions, makes it easy to cause confusion, induce deception and make sheep feel they cant understand without having a degree.

Lord YAHshua have mercy amen
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Facts facts facts
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Jacob is Israel.

It's not about The Church of believers in Jesus Christ.

Not one of you understands this.

Not one of you.

Few there are.


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the difference between spiritual israel and israel of the flesh works thus, one day flesh will be regrafted back into the olive tree and rods made one.

meaning you are so far off beam and Him and His Truth, you have to be into the satanic dispensationalist doctrines, for your deception is deep and evident
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All I know is that if I refuse their programs I will get a death mandate. That is really easy to see.
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Priest --> Little Boys

Giant Demons --> Priest

pigchef
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1/3 will be saved. That’s why there is an Aliyah. He gathers them. Yes the time of Jacobs trouble is here.

“And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as silver is refined

The 144,000 babies that Herod sent home return from the enemy land to teach and sing their song of the new covenant as they are among the first fruits of the new covenant. (Wilderness of Jordan)

Jeremiah 31:16
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Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.



“And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.”

Revelation 12:14
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Read the Bible for yourself.

Revelation 13:5-10

5And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. 6It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. 7Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, 8and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain. 9If anyone has an ear, let him hear:

10If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.

Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.
 Quoting: Shark150


Uh, Rapture happens in the preceding chapter in Revelation 12:5.

What happens next in Revelation 13 are those left behind who suddenly believes in Jesus, but now have to face the trials
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That isn't how I read it. When you combine the other warnings in matthew, daniel and amos over revelation, Rev 12 & 13 overlay the horsemen. Heres the scriptures, check it out.


Thread: Revelation vs agenda 2030 PART 7 - theories on running order of revelation

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Read the Bible for yourself.

Revelation 13:5-10

5And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. 6It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. 7Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, 8and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain. 9If anyone has an ear, let him hear:

10If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.

Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.
 Quoting: Shark150


go to hell satan/nahas'h

more hebrew nonsense

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The saints are grafted onto the olive tree.

The 1/3 is protected in this wilderness area from the ac.

Edom, Moab, and Ammon are also mentioned in a prophecy from Daniel 11:41. Speaking of the anti-Christ and his end times conquest of the Middle East, Daniel said, “He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand.”

The Beautiful Land is Israel, and the timing of this prophecy is during the Great Tribulation. The fact that Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from the anti-Christ’s hand indicates he will have intended to conquer them but will be unable to do so.

Based on existing conditions in the world today we would interpret this prophecy as pertaining to Jordan. But this could all change with the Battle of Psalm 83 when Edom, Moab, and Ammon could come under Israel’s control again. Is that what will prevent the anti-Christ from conquering them, or is there more to it?
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if Christians are protected who use the made up name Je sus / ie sus

how do beast suddenly get so much power ?
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The saints are grafted onto the olive tree.

The 1/3 is protected in this wilderness area from the ac.

Edom, Moab, and Ammon are also mentioned in a prophecy from Daniel 11:41. Speaking of the anti-Christ and his end times conquest of the Middle East, Daniel said, “He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand.”

The Beautiful Land is Israel, and the timing of this prophecy is during the Great Tribulation. The fact that Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from the anti-Christ’s hand indicates he will have intended to conquer them but will be unable to do so.

Based on existing conditions in the world today we would interpret this prophecy as pertaining to Jordan. But this could all change with the Battle of Psalm 83 when Edom, Moab, and Ammon could come under Israel’s control again. Is that what will prevent the anti-Christ from conquering them, or is there more to it?
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nahas'h <--- Amon hebrew god

christ is not hebrew
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Seraph <--- serpent race
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Genesis 12
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12 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.





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