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Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...

 
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Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
It will sound harsh, but it's because they never actually studied the Bible as a whole. They just pulled Bible "chicken nuggets" from different places in scripture putting them together thinking they got a whole chicken.

There are so many egregious errors people make when interpreting Scripture out of its original context.

My advice is to read the entire text and understand where it's meant to be interpreted literally, where's it's meant to be interpreted metaphorically, and where it's meant to be interpreted poetically. Different modes of interpretation don't make the text any less true -- in fact, they tell you how to understand the truth it is communicating.

Be careful not to listen to ignorant teachers who only want to sell their material, collect ad revenue, get donations, or collect followers. Their primary goal is not the Word of God.

And know this also, that those who trust in Christ in times of trouble will be given power by the Holy Spirit for what to answer when they are brought before magistrates and judges.

Please do not place your faith in escaping the troubles of this world. Instead, take heart for Christ has overcome the world. Place your faith in Christ and Christ alone.

Amen.
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the last trump is the 7th trumpet

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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
Why does everyone hate rapture tsrds?

Rapture-haters ONLY speak negatively about rapture-believers.

They CANNOT EVER speak ANYTHING well of them.

I wonder why that is?
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
I think that most eschatology is mislead.

A fine example of this is Dr Michael Heiser's series on the OT references in Revelation.

If you are interested, here is the channel;


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Just click on vids and scroll down to the earliest Revelation episode and start there. Get ready to see this book anew, through the eyes of a first century Messianic.
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You would enjoy this website…

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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
You are correct principles and rules to interpretation is important.

The pre-trib rapture doctrine is what lead me to studying the various false theologies .

They’re a lot of them when you actually read the Bible .

The pre trib one is just one of the more obvious false ones.

In 321… you will have a wall of text about how the church is the bride and your wouldn’t beat the bride before the wedding lol

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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
You are correct principles and rules to interpretation is important.

The pre-trib rapture doctrine is what lead me to studying the various false theologies .

They’re a lot of them when you actually read the Bible .

The pre trib one is just one of the more obvious false ones.

In 321… you will have a wall of text about how the church is the bride and your wouldn’t beat the bride before the wedding lol
 Quoting: WisdomSeek


Not trying to argue. I am on the fence myself regarding the Rapture. But what do the following verses mean ?

1. Matthew 24:40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

2.For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. [3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

If we know when the tribulation starts (after the signing of the peace treaty) . Couldn't you predict his return by adding 7 years from the start of the tribulation.


3. Lastly ,

“When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat.

Gods wrath will be poured out during the second half of the tribulation? If so, how would people be partying and getting married when billions of people will be getting killed ?


2.
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
You are correct principles and rules to interpretation is important.

The pre-trib rapture doctrine is what lead me to studying the various false theologies .

They’re a lot of them when you actually read the Bible .

The pre trib one is just one of the more obvious false ones.

In 321… you will have a wall of text about how the church is the bride and your wouldn’t beat the bride before the wedding lol
 Quoting: WisdomSeek


Not trying to argue. I am on the fence myself regarding the Rapture. But what do the following verses mean ?

1. Matthew 24:40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

2.For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. [3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

If we know when the tribulation starts (after the signing of the peace treaty) . Couldn't you predict his return by adding 7 years from the start of the tribulation.


3. Lastly ,

“When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat.

Gods wrath will be poured out during the second half of the tribulation? If so, how would people be partying and getting married when billions of people will be getting killed ?


2.
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Your still growing. Don't get doctrine from glp,especially
pre trib deniers. Hows your health?
Two roofs over my head
Crichton clan-God.Send.Grace

Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15)
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
You are correct principles and rules to interpretation is important.

The pre-trib rapture doctrine is what lead me to studying the various false theologies .

They’re a lot of them when you actually read the Bible .

The pre trib one is just one of the more obvious false ones.

In 321… you will have a wall of text about how the church is the bride and your wouldn’t beat the bride before the wedding lol
 Quoting: WisdomSeek


Not trying to argue. I am on the fence myself regarding the Rapture. But what do the following verses mean ?

1. Matthew 24:40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

2.For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. [3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

If we know when the tribulation starts (after the signing of the peace treaty) . Couldn't you predict his return by adding 7 years from the start of the tribulation.


3. Lastly ,

“When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat.

Gods wrath will be poured out during the second half of the tribulation? If so, how would people be partying and getting married when billions of people will be getting killed ?


2.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


Your still growing. Don't get doctrine from glp,especially
pre trib deniers. Hows your health?
 Quoting: Mdc61170


It's great! Thank you so much for asking. Blood pressure is good and I'm well rested even with a now 4 momth old.
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
You are correct principles and rules to interpretation is important.

The pre-trib rapture doctrine is what lead me to studying the various false theologies .

They’re a lot of them when you actually read the Bible .

The pre trib one is just one of the more obvious false ones.

In 321… you will have a wall of text about how the church is the bride and your wouldn’t beat the bride before the wedding lol
 Quoting: WisdomSeek


Not trying to argue. I am on the fence myself regarding the Rapture. But what do the following verses mean ?

1. Matthew 24:40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

2.For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. [3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

If we know when the tribulation starts (after the signing of the peace treaty) . Couldn't you predict his return by adding 7 years from the start of the tribulation.


3. Lastly ,

“When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat.

Gods wrath will be poured out during the second half of the tribulation? If so, how would people be partying and getting married when billions of people will be getting killed ?


2.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


Your still growing. Don't get doctrine from glp,especially
pre trib deniers. Hows your health?
 Quoting: Mdc61170


It's great! Thank you so much for asking. Blood pressure is good and I'm well rested even with a now 4 momth old.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


Good to hear.
Two roofs over my head
Crichton clan-God.Send.Grace

Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15)
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
I believe the Pre-Tribulation Rapture to be true

because I believe it to be consistent with the whole counsel of God

as declared in the Bible and Jesus Christ.

I believe the Pre-Trib Rapture to be true because I believe The Bible and Jesus Christ.
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
Because they dont know the word.
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
Because they dont know the word.
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Yes, I do.

Why do those that do not believe the Rapture ALWAYS need to speak evil of those that do?

They never just say that they disagree.

They ALWAYS put down those that do.

ALWAYS.
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
You are correct principles and rules to interpretation is important.

The pre-trib rapture doctrine is what lead me to studying the various false theologies .

They’re a lot of them when you actually read the Bible .

The pre trib one is just one of the more obvious false ones.

In 321… you will have a wall of text about how the church is the bride and your wouldn’t beat the bride before the wedding lol
 Quoting: WisdomSeek


Not trying to argue. I am on the fence myself regarding the Rapture. But what do the following verses mean ?

1. Matthew 24:40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

2.For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. [3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

If we know when the tribulation starts (after the signing of the peace treaty) . Couldn't you predict his return by adding 7 years from the start of the tribulation.


3. Lastly ,

“When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat.

Gods wrath will be poured out during the second half of the tribulation? If so, how would people be partying and getting married when billions of people will be getting killed ?


2.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


There is no peace deal or third temple. Christ is the one who confirmed the covenant called the new covenant.

The return of Christ and gathering his people is like Noah. Noah knew it was going to happen and so does God's children. They may not know the day and hour but they will know the season.

It is the evil that are blind. When God starts his wrath, which is not the tribulation, the evil will once again be caught off guard.

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There is no peace deal or third temple. Christ is the one who confirmed the covenant called the new covenant.
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In your opinion.

The Jwes will have a temple for the one they hail as their messiah to defile in their face

is my opinion.
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There is no peace deal or third temple. Christ is the one who confirmed the covenant called the new covenant.
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In your opinion.

The Jwes will have a temple for the one they hail as their messiah to defile in their face

is my opinion.
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It does not say there will be a third temple. Please show this. Why does God need a temple?

Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
Why do people believe in a big book of bullshit,, is the real question
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
Why do people believe in a big book of bullshit,, is the real question
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It's not BS.
The question is why don't you believe it?
Because the way you lived would need to change?
Wouldn't you rather be right with God instead of run from him?
All God wants is for you to believe the Good News of Jesus Christ, and your life will turn around from there.
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
I dont see why anyone wastes a seconds worth of time on the question at all.
Either it happens, or it doesnt.

Really the details are above your pay grade.
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Why do people believe in a big book of bullshit,, is the real question
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It's not BS.
The question is why don't you believe it?
Because the way you lived would need to change?
Wouldn't you rather be right with God instead of run from him?
All God wants is for you to believe the Good News of Jesus Christ, and your life will turn around from there.
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Thats not the problem, the problem is you have two completely different books between one set of covers, and they are at complete odds with each other and cannot be honestly reconciled, especially because the authors of the old dont believe the authors of the new have any claim on it, and, after all, they wrote it specifically so they could freely abuse everyone else who had a conflicting opinion.
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
Why do people believe in a big book of bullshit,, is the real question
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It's not BS.
The question is why don't you believe it?
Because the way you lived would need to change?
Wouldn't you rather be right with God instead of run from him?
All God wants is for you to believe the Good News of Jesus Christ, and your life will turn around from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85810274


Thats not the problem, the problem is you have two completely different books between one set of covers, and they are at complete odds with each other and cannot be honestly reconciled, especially because the authors of the old dont believe the authors of the new have any claim on it, and, after all, they wrote it specifically so they could freely abuse everyone else who had a conflicting opinion.
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For most part I think the books are in harmony other then maybe some copy errors and translation errors.
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
Why do people believe in a big book of bullshit,, is the real question
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It's not BS.
The question is why don't you believe it?
Because the way you lived would need to change?
Wouldn't you rather be right with God instead of run from him?
All God wants is for you to believe the Good News of Jesus Christ, and your life will turn around from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85810274


Thats not the problem, the problem is you have two completely different books between one set of covers, and they are at complete odds with each other and cannot be honestly reconciled, especially because the authors of the old dont believe the authors of the new have any claim on it, and, after all, they wrote it specifically so they could freely abuse everyone else who had a conflicting opinion.
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False.

The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed.
The Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed.

The foundation of everything fulfilled in Jesus Christ in the New Testament is laid in the Old Testament.


Jesus is God.



I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
.

Thus says the LORD,
The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker


Truly You are God, who hide Yourself,
O God of Israel, the Savior!


Who has declared this from ancient time?
Who has told it from that time?
Have not I, the LORD?
And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


"Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.

I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
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"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!
How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!

See! Your house is left to you desolate;

for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!'"



Matthew 23:37-39
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I will return again to My place
Till they acknowledge their offense
.
Then they will seek My face;
In their affliction they will earnestly seek Me.



Hosea 5:15
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"And it shall come to pass in all the land,"
Says the LORD,
"That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die,
But one-third shall be left in it:

I will bring the one-third through the fire,
Will refine them as silver is refined,
And test them as gold is tested.
They will call on My name,
And I will answer them.
I will say, 'This is My people'"



Zechariah 13:8,9
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They will call on My name,
And I will answer them.



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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...
The Tribulation.

The Time of Jacob's Trouble.

Daniel's 70th Week.

The Second Coming Return of Jesus Christ.

The Purpose of the Conclusion of The Book.

Israel MUST come to terms with Yeshua HaMashiach.

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I believe the Pre-Tribulation Rapture to be true

because I believe it to be consistent with the whole counsel of God

as declared in the Bible and Jesus Christ.

I believe the Pre-Trib Rapture to be true because I believe The Bible and Jesus Christ.
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I hope so

soon.
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They secretly want to have to live in a hiding place with several people where you cannot make a proper latrine and everyone has to shit in the same bucket and enjoy the jenkem.
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Re: Why people believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...

Why does everyone hate rapture tards?

Rapture-haters ONLY speak negatively about rapture-believers.

They CANNOT EVER speak ANYTHING well of them.

I wonder why that is?
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Its because they are total vaxtard mark taking idiots.

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Like king Saul of the old testament...they see no abomination in turning to occult and illuminati sources to make rapture predictions.

Thread: Here we go....RAPTURE TARDS TURNING TO SATAN FOR RAPTURE PREDICTION. A NEW LOW FOR THEM.

Because they are the most evil hate filled arrogant heartless bastards to ever walk the planet

Thread: MAY 21st is REAL!!..JUDMENT COMES AND RAPTURE WILL HAPPEN!!..DONT DARE MOCK OR YOU WILL PAY!

And they are constantly being caught molesting children.

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Thread: Pedophile Pastor Rapes Young Teens Girls At Church
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Why does everyone hate rapture tards?

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Jesus said His followers would be hated.

You fulfill His words.





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