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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8114006 United Kingdom 11/29/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly GLP has debated this subject Ad nauseam. No matter how the facts and evidence stacks up, there are just two groups of people who really care about the subject. I have my own ideas. Overwhelming facts are pretty easy to come by, if someone is interested in research. The Jews were treated horrendously by the German Nazis, in a similar way today's Palestinians are treated by Israel. This world is VERY fucked-up, by a relatively small number of psychopaths, who by their nature worm their way into positions of power, influence and money. The outcome becomes bleaker as every day goes by... Enjoy the ride, while you can! |
Taz User ID: 4169535 United States 11/29/2012 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly GLP has debated this subject Ad nauseam. No matter how the facts and evidence stacks up, there are just two groups of people who really care about the subject. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8114006 I have my own ideas. Overwhelming facts are pretty easy to come by, if someone is interested in research. The Jews were treated horrendously by the German Nazis, in a similar way today's Palestinians are treated by Israel. This world is VERY fucked-up, by a relatively small number of psychopaths, who by their nature worm their way into positions of power, influence and money. The outcome becomes bleaker as every day goes by... Enjoy the ride, while you can! Actually, they were treated quite decently according to the many International Red Cross reports. In many cases they were much better off in the camps than in the German civilian areas which were getting bombed to smithereens, especially towards the end of the war. Taz |
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Dutch Rebel User ID: 1568275 Netherlands 11/30/2012 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, they were treated quite decently according to the many International Red Cross reports. In many cases they were much better off in the camps than in the German civilian areas which were getting bombed to smithereens, especially towards the end of the war. Taz Taz The International Red Cross was NOT allowed into the concentration camps like Bergen / Belsen, and extermination camps like Auschwitz and Sobibor. The ONLY camp the International Red Cross was allowed to visit was Theresienstadt, a so called model camp, the Nazi's used as propaganda to dispell rumours about other camps, and show the Red Cross / the rest of the world, that their treatment of Jewish inmates was decent. Just google Theresienstadt and find out more about it. And as proof what the Nazi's really did to the Jewish population of Europe, some actual recordings of Heinrich Himmler, head of the SS, have survived, in which he openly talks about the "extermination of Jews" in front of party members, the so called Poznan speech or Posen speeches (look especially after 1 minute 50 seconds!): [link to www.youtube.com] For more general information: [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Thor's Hamster User ID: 27877469 United States 11/30/2012 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone mentioned Nuremberg. I highly recommend the book "Nuremberg: The Last Battle" by David Irving. What the Allies did at Nuremberg was get junior military officers and junior Nazi apparatchik to testify against their superiors (the well-known, infamous Nazis) in exchange for sparing their lives, greatly reducing their prison sentences, or serving no jail time at all. The Allied judges would routinely prohibit defense witness testimony. In short, the Nuremberg Trials were dog-and-pony shows, designed for public consumption. And what could the Germans do? They were at the complete mercy of the Allies. The victors write the history. This isn't to say high-ranking Nazis weren't guilty of crimes; sometimes heinous. I'm simply demonstrating how the victors write the history any way they want, particularly after a war like WWII where Germany was completely obliterated, had unconditionally surrendered, and was under military occupation of its entire country by the world's superpowers. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540086 United Kingdom 11/30/2012 05:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the Allies did at Nuremberg was get junior military officers and junior Nazi apparatchik to testify against their superiors (the well-known, infamous Nazis) in exchange for sparing their lives, greatly reducing their prison sentences, or serving no jail time at all. The Allied judges would routinely prohibit defense witness testimony. In short, the Nuremberg Trials were dog-and-pony shows, designed for public consumption. And what could the Germans do? They were at the complete mercy of the Allies. The victors write the history. The victors write the history. The victors write the history. The victors write the history. |
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Thor's Hamster User ID: 28769204 United States 11/30/2012 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try telling that to the families of the people that died. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1103018 Look up Norman Finklestein he talks abot his family being murdered in those death camps. Sure Jews died (as opposed to being gassed) at the camps. Japanese Americans died at internment camps in America, too. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
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Dutch Rebel User ID: 1568275 Netherlands 11/30/2012 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try telling that to the families of the people that died. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1103018 Look up Norman Finklestein he talks abot his family being murdered in those death camps. ffs LOTS of people died in WW2..why does everyone need to only feel sorry for Jews. Feeling sorry for Jews only or not is not the issue here. The issue is: is the Holocaust a lie or not? And in that light Thors Hammer, what exactly is your opinion then on the speech by Himmler, recorded in 1943, as I posted just earlier here above in the thread? |
Thor's Hamster User ID: 1248699 United States 11/30/2012 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try telling that to the families of the people that died. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1103018 Look up Norman Finklestein he talks abot his family being murdered in those death camps. ffs LOTS of people died in WW2..why does everyone need to only feel sorry for Jews. Feeling sorry for Jews only or not is not the issue here. The issue is: is the Holocaust a lie or not? And in that light Thors Hammer, what exactly is your opinion then on the speech by Himmler, recorded in 1943, as I posted just earlier here above in the thread? I'm suspect of that video. Reason: It says "jewish evacuation", then says "extermination". Which is it? It was, in fact, a jewish evacuation. Read on, especially starting at 3:30. He talks about how the Jews are being taken from society so they can't be saboteurs as they were in WWI in Germany (1916-17). If this is a genuine video (audio, actually. Who knows who's really talking) and if it's authentic and not a piece of propaganda (which I suspect it is), I would say that he's speaking to his constituency. Just as every politician does. Politicians know their audience. They speak to them; telling them what they want to hear. Romney's "47%" remarks. G.W. Bush's "Some people call you the elite. I call you my base" remarks. Obama's "great flexibility" remarks. Politicians tell their audience what they want to hear. Where is the single shred of documentary proof of this "holocaust"? There is none. Nothing. Do you honestly think a program of systematic extermination of 6 million jews could be without documentation? Jews were removed from German society ONLY WHEN WWII began (why not before? Hitler came to power in 1933. Why did they only start going to camps in 1939?) because they were a perceived threat to the German state, as a result of past actions in Germany during WWI. The American Government removed a perceived threat from society, too, at the onset of WWII -- Japanese Americans. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
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Thor's Hamster User ID: 1248699 United States 11/30/2012 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dutch rebel, check out this post... [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Unlike the American Government having no bad previous experience with Japanese Americans, Germans had a bad experience of being betrayed by Jews within their own country in WWI, just 21 years prior. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
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Thor's Hamster User ID: 1248699 United States 11/30/2012 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | World War I changed EVERYthing -- Backstabbing of Germany. Mass Ashkenazi immigration to Palestine. The unrealistic post-war punishment of Germany. The destruction of the last of the mainland European monarchies. Guess who that benefitted? Quoting: Thor's Hamster Forgot one of the most important results of WWI -- the carving up of the Ottoman Turkish Empire into the current mess we have today, mixing Sunni and Shi'a, and dividing tribes. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26154537 United States 11/30/2012 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holocaust wasn't a lie, you're just upset because the Jewish people became the Nazis and you're tired of being oppressed. Quoting: Cave Johnson The Jewish people did not, nor have ever been Nazis.. The British-Israelis are the Nazis. And they are NOT Jewish. [link to www.britishisrael.co.uk] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26154537 United States 11/30/2012 06:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holocaust wasn't a lie, you're just upset because the Jewish people became the Nazis and you're tired of being oppressed. Quoting: Cave Johnson The Jewish people did not, nor have ever been Nazis.. The British-Israelis are the Nazis. And they are NOT Jewish. [link to www.britishisrael.co.uk] I may retract this after reading this though: [link to www.britishisrael.co.uk] What the fuck? Read that shit.. "The U.S. action against Iran under President Eisenhower, was, like that over Suez three years later, ill-judged in light of what happened in the long term. It was influenced by factors which revolved ultimately around oil and the growing presence in Palestine of the Jewish Israeli State, which in 1948 inadvisably took the name of Israel, despite being of Ashkenazi-Esau descent, which is the key to understanding the cause of the continuous conflict that has been experienced between Israel and the Arab countries over the past 60 years. The simple fact is that the Jewish Israeli State, by wrongly covering itself with the identity of Jacob-Israel in 1948, adopted the tribulations of the name, rather than the blessings, and in the process has been forced into developing a Masada-type complex – following the pattern of the 953 Jews in their rock fortress, who in AD 73 after becoming subject to the Romans following a year-long siege, committed mass-suicide rather than be conquered and enslaved by the Romans. If the analogy of the final stand of the Jews at Masada is followed to the end, the Israeli State could initiate a conflict of self-destruction over something like Iran’s nuclear threat – which threat may by symbolic of the giant ramp that the Romans constructed to enter the 1,300ft high fortress on the western shore of the Dead Sea. The site itself was excavated in 1963-65 and is now an Israeli national monument." |
Thor's Hamster User ID: 1248699 United States 11/30/2012 06:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holocaust wasn't a lie, you're just upset because the Jewish people became the Nazis and you're tired of being oppressed. Quoting: Cave Johnson The Jewish people did not, nor have ever been Nazis.. The British-Israelis are the Nazis. And they are NOT Jewish. [link to www.britishisrael.co.uk] I may retract this after reading this though: [link to www.britishisrael.co.uk] What the fuck? Read that shit.. "The U.S. action against Iran under President Eisenhower, was, like that over Suez three years later, ill-judged in light of what happened in the long term. It was influenced by factors which revolved ultimately around oil and the growing presence in Palestine of the Jewish Israeli State, which in 1948 inadvisably took the name of Israel, despite being of Ashkenazi-Esau descent, which is the key to understanding the cause of the continuous conflict that has been experienced between Israel and the Arab countries over the past 60 years. The simple fact is that the Jewish Israeli State, by wrongly covering itself with the identity of Jacob-Israel in 1948, adopted the tribulations of the name, rather than the blessings, and in the process has been forced into developing a Masada-type complex – following the pattern of the 953 Jews in their rock fortress, who in AD 73 after becoming subject to the Romans following a year-long siege, committed mass-suicide rather than be conquered and enslaved by the Romans. If the analogy of the final stand of the Jews at Masada is followed to the end, the Israeli State could initiate a conflict of self-destruction over something like Iran’s nuclear threat – which threat may by symbolic of the giant ramp that the Romans constructed to enter the 1,300ft high fortress on the western shore of the Dead Sea. The site itself was excavated in 1963-65 and is now an Israeli national monument." Sounds like the Samson Option -- basically Israeli murder/suicide. If we go down, we're taking everyone with us....with nukes. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
Thor's Hamster User ID: 1248699 United States 11/30/2012 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holocaust wasn't a lie, you're just upset because the Jewish people became the Nazis and you're tired of being oppressed. Quoting: Cave Johnson The Jewish people did not, nor have ever been Nazis.. The British-Israelis are the Nazis. And they are NOT Jewish. [link to www.britishisrael.co.uk] I may retract this after reading this though: [link to www.britishisrael.co.uk] What the fuck? Read that shit.. "The U.S. action against Iran under President Eisenhower, was, like that over Suez three years later, ill-judged in light of what happened in the long term. It was influenced by factors which revolved ultimately around oil and the growing presence in Palestine of the Jewish Israeli State, which in 1948 inadvisably took the name of Israel, despite being of Ashkenazi-Esau descent, which is the key to understanding the cause of the continuous conflict that has been experienced between Israel and the Arab countries over the past 60 years. The simple fact is that the Jewish Israeli State, by wrongly covering itself with the identity of Jacob-Israel in 1948, adopted the tribulations of the name, rather than the blessings, and in the process has been forced into developing a Masada-type complex – following the pattern of the 953 Jews in their rock fortress, who in AD 73 after becoming subject to the Romans following a year-long siege, committed mass-suicide rather than be conquered and enslaved by the Romans. If the analogy of the final stand of the Jews at Masada is followed to the end, the Israeli State could initiate a conflict of self-destruction over something like Iran’s nuclear threat – which threat may by symbolic of the giant ramp that the Romans constructed to enter the 1,300ft high fortress on the western shore of the Dead Sea. The site itself was excavated in 1963-65 and is now an Israeli national monument." Sounds like the Samson Option -- basically Israeli murder/suicide. If we go down, we're taking everyone with us....with nukes. The Samson Option is how Israel tries to make it in EVERY country's best interest to not let Israel be defeated/destroyed, etc. Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders. |
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