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Jenkins User ID: 1019424 Canada 06/29/2010 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eternal torment is something in your soul when you are apart from God. Old MacDonald had a farm, ee-i-ee-i-o. And on that farm he had a cow, ee-i-ee-i-o. With a moo moo here and a moo moo there Here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo Old MacDonald had a farm, ee-i-ee-i-o. |
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Spawn User ID: 830932 United States 06/29/2010 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The issue is that there ARE teaching that DO teach eternal torment/punishment. So even though there are some that don't, it does not negate those that do. ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Spawn User ID: 830932 United States 06/29/2010 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eternal torment is something in your soul when you are apart from God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1019657Funny, I wouldn't exactly call my existence "eternal torment". Wait until all you have IS eternity and you have still rejected God's love through the finished work of his Only Begotten Son Yeshua. ....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you.... [link to www.youtube.com] |
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nzreva (OP) User ID: 966385 United States 06/29/2010 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eternal torment is something in your soul when you are apart from God. Quoting: SpawnFunny, I wouldn't exactly call my existence "eternal torment". Wait until all you have IS eternity and you have still rejected God's love through the finished work of his Only Begotten Son Yeshua. You did not read the article eternal is not in the bible eternal is a latin word for aion which always has an end Last Edited by NZREva on 06/29/2010 11:29 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 754098 United States 06/29/2010 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eternal torment is something in your soul when you are apart from God. Quoting: nzrevaFunny, I wouldn't exactly call my existence "eternal torment". Wait until all you have IS eternity and you have still rejected God's love through the finished work of his Only Begotten Son Yeshua. You did not read the article eternal is not in the bible eternal is a latin word for aion which always has an end And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever Looks like it's eternal to me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 728173 United States 06/29/2010 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eternal torment is something in your soul when you are apart from God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754098Funny, I wouldn't exactly call my existence "eternal torment". Wait until all you have IS eternity and you have still rejected God's love through the finished work of his Only Begotten Son Yeshua. You did not read the article eternal is not in the bible eternal is a latin word for aion which always has an end And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever Looks like it's eternal to me. this is parabolic,first Christ is the comsuming fire,tormented means "sadden". A body would be comsumed in fire. There is no "day and night" once we are dead. Where it says "for" ever and ever is translated wrong it should read "to" ever and ever. This is talking about the end of everything. If you die without Christ you will simply die, to be in Christ is to live eternally with him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 728173 United States 06/29/2010 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eternal torment is something in your soul when you are apart from God. Quoting: nzrevaFunny, I wouldn't exactly call my existence "eternal torment". Wait until all you have IS eternity and you have still rejected God's love through the finished work of his Only Begotten Son Yeshua. You did not read the article eternal is not in the bible eternal is a latin word for aion which always has an end The word "eternal" is listed in hundreds of places in the Bible. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 754098 United States 06/29/2010 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever Quoting: Anonymous Coward 728173Looks like it's eternal to me. ................................................ this is parabolic,first Christ is the comsuming fire,tormented means "sadden". A body would be comsumed in fire. There is no "day and night" once we are dead. Where it says "for" ever and ever is translated wrong it should read "to" ever and ever. This is talking about the end of everything. If you die without Christ you will simply die, to be in Christ is to live eternally with him. Parable my arse. You can try to read anything you want into the scripture and can try to soothe your guilt, but it is very obvious your interpretation is crap. "Christ is the all consuming fire" and "tormented" means saddened. Wow you must be an Obama speech writer. Once you are dead, there is no day or night, but God will resurrect you to new bodies (in hell or in the New Heavens or New Earth) for eternity. Jesus tought ETERNAL seperation for those who ignore or refuse the free guift of eternal life in the presence of God. To deny this you are spreading false teaching and doing some souls a disservice by sugar coating their eventual eternal condition. |
KLB User ID: 1019687 United States 06/29/2010 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, that's not so. My parents attempted to instill some things I always knew in my gut are not right and true. And, I don't mean religious things either. There are parts of a human being that no other person can touch because they belong to God. What happens to the soul, is one of them. You know deep down what is true, I don't care how many people try to change it. We all know. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 995585 United States 06/29/2010 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eternal torment is something in your soul when you are apart from God. Quoting: SpawnFunny, I wouldn't exactly call my existence "eternal torment". Wait until all you have IS eternity and you have still rejected God's love through the finished work of his Only Begotten Son Yeshua. God doesn't love me. He thinks I'm an inferior female. |
HardTruth User ID: 899517 United States 06/29/2010 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, that's not so. Quoting: KLB 1019687My parents attempted to instill some things I always knew in my gut are not right and true. And, I don't mean religious things either. There are parts of a human being that no other person can touch because they belong to God. What happens to the soul, is one of them. You know deep down what is true, I don't care how many people try to change it. We all know. You're exactly right, and a true loving divine entity doesn't burn down the house to get rid of the cockroaches!! ___________ If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 728173 United States 06/29/2010 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754098Looks like it's eternal to me. ................................................ this is parabolic,first Christ is the comsuming fire,tormented means "sadden". A body would be comsumed in fire. There is no "day and night" once we are dead. Where it says "for" ever and ever is translated wrong it should read "to" ever and ever. This is talking about the end of everything. If you die without Christ you will simply die, to be in Christ is to live eternally with him. Parable my arse. You can try to read anything you want into the scripture and can try to soothe your guilt, but it is very obvious your interpretation is crap. "Christ is the all consuming fire" and "tormented" means saddened. Wow you must be an Obama speech writer. Once you are dead, there is no day or night, but God will resurrect you to new bodies (in hell or in the New Heavens or New Earth) for eternity. Jesus tought ETERNAL seperation for those who ignore or refuse the free guift of eternal life in the presence of God. To deny this you are spreading false teaching and doing some souls a disservice by sugar coating their eventual eternal condition. This is what you been taught by the church this does not agree with the Bible. Hell means "the Grave" both in hebrew and greek. If you had any understand (open eyes)and check out the concordance you will see the interpetations of words and in there context. The bodies of unbelievers will be spew upond the ground as dung. My guilt has been laid at the feet of Christ. The free gift are for those whom God choose from the foundation of the world and he paid for the sins of his elect from the foundation of the world. |
KLB User ID: 1019687 United States 06/29/2010 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is true, there are translations like that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011077But, what does your gut say? What does your heart say? In every man/woman is a knowing.... ....placed there not by a book, but, by an eternal God who made you. Amen No way out from that, huh? I think it is an act of incredible mercy for God to put that knowing there. It is the stupidity of people, to try to ignore it. Me included. For there was a time, I would have said "Nope, not true." But, I knew. Just did not wish to admit it. Even made fun of it. Pride. But, we know what God says about pride. Comes prior to destruction. Good thing God is there, and available at ANY time, should ANY man or woman wish to accept his mercy. That still small voice, tugging on the heart, is the most important one we will ever hear. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 728173 United States 06/29/2010 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eternal torment is something in your soul when you are apart from God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 995585Funny, I wouldn't exactly call my existence "eternal torment". Wait until all you have IS eternity and you have still rejected God's love through the finished work of his Only Begotten Son Yeshua. God doesn't love me. He thinks I'm an inferior female. You are wrong god declares he loves his creation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1011077 United States 06/29/2010 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is true, there are translations like that. Quoting: KLB 1019687But, what does your gut say? What does your heart say? In every man/woman is a knowing.... ....placed there not by a book, but, by an eternal God who made you. Amen No way out from that, huh? I think it is an act of incredible mercy for God to put that knowing there. It is the stupidity of people, to try to ignore it. Me included. For there was a time, I would have said "Nope, not true." But, I knew. Just did not wish to admit it. Even made fun of it. Pride. But, we know what God says about pride. Comes prior to destruction. Good thing God is there, and available at ANY time, should ANY man or woman wish to accept his mercy. That still small voice, tugging on the heart, is the most important one we will ever hear. Yes. That still, small voice spoke loudly and clearly to me from an early age. I was dumbfounded by the hypocrisy and intolerance around me, and so I left my church. It took some time to realize God's message is clear, man's interpretation thereof may not be. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 728173 United States 06/29/2010 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is true, there are translations like that. Quoting: KLB 1019687But, what does your gut say? What does your heart say? In every man/woman is a knowing.... ....placed there not by a book, but, by an eternal God who made you. Amen No way out from that, huh? I think it is an act of incredible mercy for God to put that knowing there. It is the stupidity of people, to try to ignore it. Me included. For there was a time, I would have said "Nope, not true." But, I knew. Just did not wish to admit it. Even made fun of it. Pride. But, we know what God says about pride. Comes prior to destruction. Good thing God is there, and available at ANY time, should ANY man or woman wish to accept his mercy. That still small voice, tugging on the heart, is the most important one we will ever hear. the Book is God. Romans 10 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. psalms 80 19 So will not we go back from thee: quicken us (made alive), and we will call upon thy name. We can only call upon the name of the lord when we become saved. We are spiritually dead. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 754098 United States 06/29/2010 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus tought ETERNAL seperation for those who ignore or refuse the free guift of eternal life in the presence of God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 728173To deny this you are spreading false teaching and doing some souls a disservice by sugar coating their eventual eternal condition. ............................... This is what you been taught by the church this does not agree with the Bible. Hell means "the Grave" both in hebrew and greek. If you had any understand (open eyes)and check out the concordance you will see the interpetations of words and in there context. The bodies of unbelievers will be spew upond the ground as dung. My guilt has been laid at the feet of Christ. The free gift are for those whom God choose from the foundation of the world and he paid for the sins of his elect from the foundation of the world. Does not agree with the bible or your personal belief? "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." "Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt. I can give many more examples but I'v been over this tired argument with you before (If you are a sockpuppet of HM or MD) Remember you will be held accountable for your teaching if you truly are saved. I find it unlikely that anyone who would sugarcoat eternal damnation to those who are lost could have the love of Jesus in them, but I'm not the judge. |
nzreva (OP) User ID: 966385 United States 06/29/2010 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eternal torment is something in your soul when you are apart from God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754098Funny, I wouldn't exactly call my existence "eternal torment". Wait until all you have IS eternity and you have still rejected God's love through the finished work of his Only Begotten Son Yeshua. You did not read the article eternal is not in the bible eternal is a latin word for aion which always has an end And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever Looks like it's eternal to me. It isn't it is aions and aions ages and ages. there can only be one ever for ever has no ending. |