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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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Nice...almost an "M" - Thanks for the link btw Nin!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28232082


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


look at 54
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


wink

Where's the "hangers" of the good old days Nin ??? LOL
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well, we have 1652 that is now BGD
-Region 1652 (N20E11) is
currently magnetically classified as a Beta-Gamma-Delta group

and 1654 that most of us agree is a BGD, but NOAA says they still need more data to class it
"SDO magnetogram and intensitygram imagery suggest magnetic
complexity emerging in the intermediate spots of this region but more
data is needed to be able to ascertain the severity of these changes
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

that makes 2 BGD spots, both earth facing, and both in close proximity to eavch other

1652 and 1654 both show signs of growth, neither show signs of decay
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28232082


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


look at 54
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


wink

Where's the "hangers" of the good old days Nin ??? LOL
 Quoting: TS66


hahaha i know
we just may be about ready to see a comeback
these spots show potential ^^
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:1654magneto:

That is a Delta, as long as it does not decay like all the rest we will see an X from this guy.
 Quoting: Da fuq


Thought that yesterday, the question being why is it classified as beta?
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.24 hr Summary...
Solar activity has been at low levels for the past 24 hours. The largest
events of the period were several C2 solar flares from Region 1654
(N08E46). These solar flares were difficult to discern due the elevated
background x-ray flux levels currently being measured by the GOES 15
spacecraft. Since Region 1654 has rotated onto the visible disk,
background x-ray flux has increased from low B-class to low C-class
levels. 10cm radio flux levels have also increased from around 140 sfu
to almost 170 sfu with the arrival of Region 1654. Region 1654 is
currently classified as an Eki Beta group and is the largest region on
the disk. SDO magnetogram and intensitygram imagery suggest magnetic
complexity emerging in the intermediate spots of this region but more
data is needed to be able to ascertain the severity of these changes

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Region 1652 (N20E11) is
currently magnetically classified as a Beta-Gamma-Delta group which is
the most magnetically complex region on the visible disk.
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BGD it is arnoldsolardoom!
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well, we have 1652 that is now BGD
-Region 1652 (N20E11) is
currently magnetically classified as a Beta-Gamma-Delta group

and 1654 that most of us agree is a BGD, but NOAA says they still need more data to class it
"SDO magnetogram and intensitygram imagery suggest magnetic
complexity emerging in the intermediate spots of this region but more
data is needed to be able to ascertain the severity of these changes
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

that makes 2 BGD spots, both earth facing, and both in close proximity to eavch other

1652 and 1654 both show signs of growth, neither show signs of decay
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thanks for your opinion on this - I know there was some thought earlier from somebody else that 1654 could be decaying. I'm of the opinion that it's just going through a process and becoming more complex (perhaps giving a slight illusion on the magnetogram that it is decaying).
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He/she/it's getting warmed up now...seems to be expanding more slowly now.
:1/10_1654_HMI:

Latest SDO Composite w/mag-fields:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Latest HMI Color Intensitygram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

GOES X_Ray image:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Another small Beta region has come over in the NE....
We also had a CME last night on the east limb:

CACTus CME Details:

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
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 Quoting: TS66


look at 54
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


wink

Where's the "hangers" of the good old days Nin ??? LOL
 Quoting: TS66


hahaha i know
we just may be about ready to see a comeback
these spots show potential ^^
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Did they label them as 2 separate spots, as I had suggested before, or did they just give it one number?
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What better time than now to roll out my telescope with the solar filter on. See if I can get a good glimpse of the spots from home!
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...


look at 54
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


wink

Where's the "hangers" of the good old days Nin ??? LOL
 Quoting: TS66


hahaha i know
we just may be about ready to see a comeback
these spots show potential ^^
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Did they label them as 2 separate spots, as I had suggested before, or did they just give it one number?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


I believe she is referring to the spots 52 & and 54. As long as 54 shares the same penumbrae, it is a single solar region, with multiple umbra. hf
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look at 54
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


wink

Where's the "hangers" of the good old days Nin ??? LOL
 Quoting: TS66


hahaha i know
we just may be about ready to see a comeback
these spots show potential ^^
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Did they label them as 2 separate spots, as I had suggested before, or did they just give it one number?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


one spot
1654
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B & W close-up of C8 flare:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

Other images I stumbled on at Solarsoft:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]
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What is causing this?
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

And yes it was me that thought 1654 looks like it is decaying...just seems smaller and less dense. Just looks that way to me. Still looks BGD for sure, lol.
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wink

Where's the "hangers" of the good old days Nin ??? LOL
 Quoting: TS66


hahaha i know
we just may be about ready to see a comeback
these spots show potential ^^
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Did they label them as 2 separate spots, as I had suggested before, or did they just give it one number?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


I believe she is referring to the spots 52 & and 54. As long as 54 shares the same penumbrae, it is a single solar region, with multiple umbra. hf
 Quoting: TS66


Thank you.
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wink

Where's the "hangers" of the good old days Nin ??? LOL
 Quoting: TS66


hahaha i know
we just may be about ready to see a comeback
these spots show potential ^^
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Did they label them as 2 separate spots, as I had suggested before, or did they just give it one number?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


one spot
1654
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thank you.
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Looks like the X-rays are leveling out at a higher background level than they were earlier -

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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What is causing this?
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

And yes it was me that thought 1654 looks like it is decaying...just seems smaller and less dense. Just looks that way to me. Still looks BGD for sure, lol.
 Quoting: whiteangel


What you are seeing as "decay" is growth as a result of instability in the leading umbra.hiding



On a side note, why is the interior of the sun dark.

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What is causing this?
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

And yes it was me that thought 1654 looks like it is decaying...just seems smaller and less dense. Just looks that way to me. Still looks BGD for sure, lol.
 Quoting: whiteangel


What you are seeing as "decay" is growth as a result of instability in the leading umbra.hiding



On a side note, why is the interior of the sun dark.
 Quoting: Da fuq


Here's a great write up on (caution) "The Electric Sun" theory that I have been trying to digest this morning. Third read and still getting something out of it.

It discusses what creates a CMEs and discharges, the dark of the interior, etc hf

[link to electric-cosmos.org]

Fixed link ^^
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Here's a great write up on (caution) "The Electric Sun" theory that I have been trying to digest this morning. Third read and still getting something out of it.

It discusses what creates a CMEs and discharges, the dark of the interior, etc hf

[link to electric-cosmos.org]

Fixed link ^^
 Quoting: TS66


Interesting TS,...I will give it a shot later.

hi


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Looking at the magnetogram from right before the flare, the leading spot of 1654 has had a huge change.the negative is now surrounded by positive

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

hiding
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What is causing this?
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

And yes it was me that thought 1654 looks like it is decaying...just seems smaller and less dense. Just looks that way to me. Still looks BGD for sure, lol.
 Quoting: whiteangel


What you are seeing as "decay" is growth as a result of instability in the leading umbra.hiding



On a side note, why is the interior of the sun dark.
 Quoting: Da fuq


Here's a great write up on (caution) "The Electric Sun" theory that I have been trying to digest this morning. Third read and still getting something out of it.

It discusses what creates a CMEs and discharges, the dark of the interior, etc hf

[link to electric-cosmos.org]

Fixed link ^^
 Quoting: TS66


tesla99
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Looking at the magnetogram from right before the flare, the leading spot of 1654 has had a huge change.the negative is now surrounded by positive.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8369498


And the trailing spot is becoming more complex .....
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Here's a great write up on (caution) "The Electric Sun" theory that I have been trying to digest this morning. Third read and still getting something out of it.

It discusses what creates a CMEs and discharges, the dark of the interior, etc hf

[link to electric-cosmos.org]

Fixed link ^^
 Quoting: TS66


Interesting TS,...I will give it a shot later.

hi


Z
 Quoting: zacksavage


Hey Z hf
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Looking at the magnetogram from right before the flare, the leading spot of 1654 has had a huge change.the negative is now surrounded by positive

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8369498


Wow, nice catch! rockon

SIDC daily report-

SIDC FORECAST (valid from 1230UT, 10 Jan 2013 until 12 Jan 2013)
SOLAR FLARES : Active (M-class flares expected, probability >= 50%)

GEOMAGNETISM : Quiet (A<20 and K<4)
SOLAR PROTONS : Quiet
PREDICTIONS FOR 10 Jan 2013 10CM FLUX: 168 / AP: 002
PREDICTIONS FOR 11 Jan 2013 10CM FLUX: 172 / AP: 001
PREDICTIONS FOR 12 Jan 2013 10CM FLUX: 174 / AP: 005
COMMENT: We expect solar activity to rise from eruptive to active
levels with M class flares likely from NOAA AR 1654, and C class flares
possible from NOAA ARs 1650 and 1652.
Geomagnetic conditions are
currently quiet and are expected to remain so for the next 48 hours.

TODAY'S ESTIMATED ISN : 102, BASED ON 05 STATIONS.

SOLAR INDICES FOR 9 Jan 2013
WOLF NUMBER CATANIA : 195
10CM SOLAR FLUX : 169

AK CHAMBON LA FORET : 005
AK WINGST : 003
ESTIMATED AP : 002
ESTIMATED ISN : 107, BASED ON 04 STATIONS.
[link to sidc.oma.be]

Pic of C8 flare-
:C8flare:

More images of C8 flare:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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The C8 flare looks like just a few sparks. The flare potential of this region is enormous. The color close-up movie of the C8 is ready now:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]
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Small Ejecta.

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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What is causing this?
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

And yes it was me that thought 1654 looks like it is decaying...just seems smaller and less dense. Just looks that way to me. Still looks BGD for sure, lol.
 Quoting: whiteangel


What you are seeing as "decay" is growth as a result of instability in the leading umbra.hiding

On a side note, why is the interior of the sun dark.
 Quoting: Da fuq


Thanks hon! Appreciate it.
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Isaiah 5:20 KJV
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 Quoting: whiteangel


Anyone ever see it remain elevated that high for as long as it has?





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