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Do I dare say it ???? Strangely quite today don't you think ??
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Yep... you are right!
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Too quite. I want an X-flare and I want it now.
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IBEX & FLUFF UPDATE: The Sun Has No Bow-Shock!

IBEX’s novel imaging technique has unleashed one surprise after another. Now principal investigator David McComas (Southwest Research Institute) and 10 colleagues have turned IBEX's attention to the Sun's motion through space. It turns out that the Sun is moving through interstellar gas at 52,000 mph, about 12% slower than previously measured by the Ulysses spacecraft.

So what does the new model look like? IBEX's observations confirm that the Sun is still moving (albeit slowly) through the Local Interstellar Cloud, a fluff of higher density gas roughly 30 light-years across. Combined with a relatively strong interstellar magnetic field, the Sun's slower advance is no longer enough to push interstellar gas into a bow shock. At best, it makes a "bow wave," a region of slightly increased density — more like a fast-moving boat than a fighter jet. This means a significant change in how scientists think about the Sun and its interaction with the stuff beyond its influence.

"It's too early to say exactly what this new data means for our heliosphere. Decades of research have explored scenarios that included a bow shock. That research now has to be redone using the latest data," says McComas.

More here:
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


This is amazing! Our sun is moving 12% slower and no bow shock! Wow....learned a lot today! I wonder if it will continue to slow. That would explain the anomalous proton storms. Space proton storms instead of from sun.
 Quoting: imjustsayin


So, there is empirical verifiable data from IBEX that the interstellar cloud is having an impact on the sun? Maybe, I am just behind the times here, but Wow, this is beyond a conspiracy theory at this point. I am assuming that we, as in NASA or tptb, really do not know what to expect from this phenomena in regards to the sun or earth? IMHO, if there was ever a reason to prepare it is this, and it is now. I am just floored at this revelation.
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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IBEX & FLUFF UPDATE: The Sun Has No Bow-Shock!

IBEX’s novel imaging technique has unleashed one surprise after another. Now principal investigator David McComas (Southwest Research Institute) and 10 colleagues have turned IBEX's attention to the Sun's motion through space. It turns out that the Sun is moving through interstellar gas at 52,000 mph, about 12% slower than previously measured by the Ulysses spacecraft.

So what does the new model look like? IBEX's observations confirm that the Sun is still moving (albeit slowly) through the Local Interstellar Cloud, a fluff of higher density gas roughly 30 light-years across. Combined with a relatively strong interstellar magnetic field, the Sun's slower advance is no longer enough to push interstellar gas into a bow shock. At best, it makes a "bow wave," a region of slightly increased density — more like a fast-moving boat than a fighter jet. This means a significant change in how scientists think about the Sun and its interaction with the stuff beyond its influence.

"It's too early to say exactly what this new data means for our heliosphere. Decades of research have explored scenarios that included a bow shock. That research now has to be redone using the latest data," says McComas.

More here:
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Can someone explain what this means in layman's terms? Less sun activity? More? What about for life on earth? Very amateur sun person here just starting to teach myself but this was too technical for me!
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IBEX & FLUFF UPDATE: The Sun Has No Bow-Shock!

IBEX’s novel imaging technique has unleashed one surprise after another. Now principal investigator David McComas (Southwest Research Institute) and 10 colleagues have turned IBEX's attention to the Sun's motion through space. It turns out that the Sun is moving through interstellar gas at 52,000 mph, about 12% slower than previously measured by the Ulysses spacecraft.

So what does the new model look like? IBEX's observations confirm that the Sun is still moving (albeit slowly) through the Local Interstellar Cloud, a fluff of higher density gas roughly 30 light-years across. Combined with a relatively strong interstellar magnetic field, the Sun's slower advance is no longer enough to push interstellar gas into a bow shock. At best, it makes a "bow wave," a region of slightly increased density — more like a fast-moving boat than a fighter jet. This means a significant change in how scientists think about the Sun and its interaction with the stuff beyond its influence.

"It's too early to say exactly what this new data means for our heliosphere. Decades of research have explored scenarios that included a bow shock. That research now has to be redone using the latest data," says McComas.

More here:
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


This is amazing! Our sun is moving 12% slower and no bow shock! Wow....learned a lot today! I wonder if it will continue to slow. That would explain the anomalous proton storms. Space proton storms instead of from sun.
 Quoting: imjustsayin


So, there is empirical verifiable data from IBEX that the interstellar cloud is having an impact on the sun? Maybe, I am just behind the times here, but Wow, this is beyond a conspiracy theory at this point. I am assuming that we, as in NASA or tptb, really do not know what to expect from this phenomena in regards to the sun or earth? IMHO, if there was ever a reason to prepare it is this, and it is now. I am just floored at this revelation.
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Mind = Blown!

ohno

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Me too. This could change life as we know it.
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IBEX & FLUFF UPDATE: The Sun Has No Bow-Shock!

IBEX’s novel imaging technique has unleashed one surprise after another. Now principal investigator David McComas (Southwest Research Institute) and 10 colleagues have turned IBEX's attention to the Sun's motion through space. It turns out that the Sun is moving through interstellar gas at 52,000 mph, about 12% slower than previously measured by the Ulysses spacecraft.

So what does the new model look like? IBEX's observations confirm that the Sun is still moving (albeit slowly) through the Local Interstellar Cloud, a fluff of higher density gas roughly 30 light-years across. Combined with a relatively strong interstellar magnetic field, the Sun's slower advance is no longer enough to push interstellar gas into a bow shock. At best, it makes a "bow wave," a region of slightly increased density — more like a fast-moving boat than a fighter jet. This means a significant change in how scientists think about the Sun and its interaction with the stuff beyond its influence.

"It's too early to say exactly what this new data means for our heliosphere. Decades of research have explored scenarios that included a bow shock. That research now has to be redone using the latest data," says McComas.

More here:
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


This is amazing! Our sun is moving 12% slower and no bow shock! Wow....learned a lot today! I wonder if it will continue to slow. That would explain the anomalous proton storms. Space proton storms instead of from sun.
 Quoting: imjustsayin


So, there is empirical verifiable data from IBEX that the interstellar cloud is having an impact on the sun? Maybe, I am just behind the times here, but Wow, this is beyond a conspiracy theory at this point. I am assuming that we, as in NASA or tptb, really do not know what to expect from this phenomena in regards to the sun or earth? IMHO, if there was ever a reason to prepare it is this, and it is now. I am just floored at this revelation.
 Quoting: Vesper33


Mind = Blown!

ohno

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Actually, they said this back in January. Just like they released an image of US passing through the 'Fluffy' back in 2002. We have been passing through this particular ISM for tens of thousands of years, no matter what someone on the internet told you. It's on the video;

2002 Image of The Local Interstellar Cloud - [link to apod.nasa.gov]

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Hi, the following site may of been posted many times but I would like to post it again incase people missed it....

[link to www.hamqsl.com]

It has all the Solar information to die for. Instead of going to various sources, this place has it all on 1 page. Also, it has banners for your websites and widgets for your computers/Mobile phones...

Great website.....and no, I have nothing to do with it. I found it accidently by this thread....

Thread: Live Meteor View Lit up like a christmas tree

Enjoy....
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Sun velocity...

Link to abstract... "The Heliosphere's Interstellar Interaction: No Bow Shock"
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"As the Sun moves through the local interstellar medium, its supersonic, ionized solar wind carves out a cavity called the heliosphere. Recent observations from the Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX) spacecraft show that the relative motion of the Sun with respect to the interstellar medium is slower and in a somewhat different direction than previously thought. Here, we provide combined consensus values for this velocity vector and find that they have important implications for the global interstellar interaction. In particular, the velocity is almost certainly slower than the fast magnetosonic speed, with no bow shock forming ahead of the heliosphere as was formerly widely expected.

Received for publication 24 February 2012.
Accepted for publication 19 April 2012."

Links to other articles about the paper...

[link to annesastronomynews.com]
[link to www.astrobio.net]
[link to www.sciencenews.org]
[link to www.eurekalert.org]

Nowhere do the articles or abstract say that the sun is slowing down. What they say is that a new study utilizing IBEX data indicates that the sun's relative velocity is less than that previously theorized from Ulysses and other data, slow enough that no shock wave is formed. New satellite, new data, new analysis, new conclusions, new theory.

No doom. At most, opposing camps of scientists will form scurmish lines defending their respective theories with blazing sliderules until, in turn, new data, new models and new conclusions come along to displace those currently thought of as cutting edge.

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Synchronicity?

There is a band called 1476 with a song called Swallow the Sun

Interesting.


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IBEX & FLUFF UPDATE: The Sun Has No Bow-Shock!

IBEX’s novel imaging technique has unleashed one surprise after another. Now principal investigator David McComas (Southwest Research Institute) and 10 colleagues have turned IBEX's attention to the Sun's motion through space. It turns out that the Sun is moving through interstellar gas at 52,000 mph, about 12% slower than previously measured by the Ulysses spacecraft.

So what does the new model look like? IBEX's observations confirm that the Sun is still moving (albeit slowly) through the Local Interstellar Cloud, a fluff of higher density gas roughly 30 light-years across. Combined with a relatively strong interstellar magnetic field, the Sun's slower advance is no longer enough to push interstellar gas into a bow shock. At best, it makes a "bow wave," a region of slightly increased density — more like a fast-moving boat than a fighter jet. This means a significant change in how scientists think about the Sun and its interaction with the stuff beyond its influence.

"It's too early to say exactly what this new data means for our heliosphere. Decades of research have explored scenarios that included a bow shock. That research now has to be redone using the latest data," says McComas.

More here:
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


This is amazing! Our sun is moving 12% slower and no bow shock! Wow....learned a lot today! I wonder if it will continue to slow. That would explain the anomalous proton storms. Space proton storms instead of from sun.
 Quoting: imjustsayin


So, there is empirical verifiable data from IBEX that the interstellar cloud is having an impact on the sun? Maybe, I am just behind the times here, but Wow, this is beyond a conspiracy theory at this point. I am assuming that we, as in NASA or tptb, really do not know what to expect from this phenomena in regards to the sun or earth? IMHO, if there was ever a reason to prepare it is this, and it is now. I am just floored at this revelation.
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Mind = Blown!

ohno

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amazing
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This is amazing! Our sun is moving 12% slower and no bow shock! Wow....learned a lot today! I wonder if it will continue to slow. That would explain the anomalous proton storms. Space proton storms instead of from sun.
 Quoting: imjustsayin


So, there is empirical verifiable data from IBEX that the interstellar cloud is having an impact on the sun? Maybe, I am just behind the times here, but Wow, this is beyond a conspiracy theory at this point. I am assuming that we, as in NASA or tptb, really do not know what to expect from this phenomena in regards to the sun or earth? IMHO, if there was ever a reason to prepare it is this, and it is now. I am just floored at this revelation.
 Quoting: Vesper33


Mind = Blown!

ohno

bump
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amazing
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I came to the same consclusion. The Interstellar cloud is slowing the passage of our solar system through space. It is compressing it as expected.
Everything that was being predicted is happening.
Not good.
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There are somethings we do not, cannot control.

Always live life to the fullest.

(Doom or no doom)
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There are somethings we do not, cannot control.

Always live life to the fullest.

(Doom or no doom)
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True Dat

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So, there is empirical verifiable data from IBEX that the interstellar cloud is having an impact on the sun? Maybe, I am just behind the times here, but Wow, this is beyond a conspiracy theory at this point. I am assuming that we, as in NASA or tptb, really do not know what to expect from this phenomena in regards to the sun or earth? IMHO, if there was ever a reason to prepare it is this, and it is now. I am just floored at this revelation.
 Quoting: Vesper33


Mind = Blown!

ohno

bump
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amazing
 Quoting: OVRANALYZE

I came to the same consclusion. The Interstellar cloud is slowing the passage of our solar system through space. It is compressing it as expected.
Everything that was being predicted is happening.
Not good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872

According to the IBEX Principal Investigator, you have it backwards. From [link to www.ibex.swri.edu]
"...That difference in speed, about 7,000 miles per hour (11,000 kilometers per hour), does not sound like much but it means that there is about 25% less pressure in the region in front of our heliosphere. What this also means is that there is not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism to cause a bow shock to form....Our heliosphere is like a protective cocoon being inflated in the interstellar medium by the Sun’s million mph solar wind. As our Sun orbits the center of the galaxy every couple hundred million years, it bobs in and out of the disk of the galaxy like a horse on a merry–go–round. As it does this, it passes through areas of the interstellar medium that are more and less dense, causing the heliosphere to change in shape and size. Denser areas with larger speeds relative to the Sun can compress the heliosphere more, while slower and less dense regions allow the bubble to expand..."

We are in a slower, less dense area than previously thought. Hence, no Bow Shock, just a Bow Wave. Less pressure means the heliosphere should expand, as per the article.
[link to www.ibex.swri.edu]

I just decided what my next video will be about....

ohyeah

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Mind = Blown!

ohno

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amazing
 Quoting: OVRANALYZE

I came to the same consclusion. The Interstellar cloud is slowing the passage of our solar system through space. It is compressing it as expected.
Everything that was being predicted is happening.
Not good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872

According to the IBEX Principal Investigator, you have it backwards. From [link to www.ibex.swri.edu]
"...That difference in speed, about 7,000 miles per hour (11,000 kilometers per hour), does not sound like much but it means that there is about 25% less pressure in the region in front of our heliosphere. What this also means is that there is not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism to cause a bow shock to form....Our heliosphere is like a protective cocoon being inflated in the interstellar medium by the Sun’s million mph solar wind. As our Sun orbits the center of the galaxy every couple hundred million years, it bobs in and out of the disk of the galaxy like a horse on a merry–go–round. As it does this, it passes through areas of the interstellar medium that are more and less dense, causing the heliosphere to change in shape and size. Denser areas with larger speeds relative to the Sun can compress the heliosphere more, while slower and less dense regions allow the bubble to expand..."

We are in a slower, less dense area than previously thought. Hence, no Bow Shock, just a Bow Wave. Less pressure means the heliosphere should expand, as per the article.
[link to www.ibex.swri.edu]
 Quoting: TBar1984


Yep, thanks for the input TBAR.
Next question is this- what happens when you remove pressure, density and increase the bubble protecting us? Im all for a larger Helio, but there are definately aspects of this that are going to cause concern..but nice timing i guess for more protection from the sun..
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Its coming, i can feel it.
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I came to the same consclusion. The Interstellar cloud is slowing the passage of our solar system through space. It is compressing it as expected.
Everything that was being predicted is happening.
Not good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872

According to the IBEX Principal Investigator, you have it backwards. From [link to www.ibex.swri.edu]
"...That difference in speed, about 7,000 miles per hour (11,000 kilometers per hour), does not sound like much but it means that there is about 25% less pressure in the region in front of our heliosphere. What this also means is that there is not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism to cause a bow shock to form....Our heliosphere is like a protective cocoon being inflated in the interstellar medium by the Sun’s million mph solar wind. As our Sun orbits the center of the galaxy every couple hundred million years, it bobs in and out of the disk of the galaxy like a horse on a merry–go–round. As it does this, it passes through areas of the interstellar medium that are more and less dense, causing the heliosphere to change in shape and size. Denser areas with larger speeds relative to the Sun can compress the heliosphere more, while slower and less dense regions allow the bubble to expand..."

We are in a slower, less dense area than previously thought. Hence, no Bow Shock, just a Bow Wave. Less pressure means the heliosphere should expand, as per the article.
[link to www.ibex.swri.edu]
 Quoting: TBar1984


Yep, thanks for the input TBAR.
Next question is this- what happens when you remove pressure, density and increase the bubble protecting us? Im all for a larger Helio, but there are definately aspects of this that are going to cause concern..but nice timing i guess for more protection from the sun..
Peace
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I'd be willing to bet that any changes will be insignificant. There is a very good possibility that the differences are just a result of different instruments and methods of computations, and there hasn't been any appreciable change in the handful of years we've been able to measure these parameters. Remember, not too long ago they thought the heliosphere ended outside of Jupiter. Then it was Pluto, now, the Voyagers are twice as far away as Pluto and they still haven't reached interstellar space. It is already much larger than they thought not too long ago. Tell your kids to be Astronomers, the field is wide open.

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I came to the same consclusion. The Interstellar cloud is slowing the passage of our solar system through space. It is compressing it as expected.
Everything that was being predicted is happening.
Not good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872

According to the IBEX Principal Investigator, you have it backwards. From [link to www.ibex.swri.edu]
"...That difference in speed, about 7,000 miles per hour (11,000 kilometers per hour), does not sound like much but it means that there is about 25% less pressure in the region in front of our heliosphere. What this also means is that there is not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism to cause a bow shock to form....Our heliosphere is like a protective cocoon being inflated in the interstellar medium by the Sun’s million mph solar wind. As our Sun orbits the center of the galaxy every couple hundred million years, it bobs in and out of the disk of the galaxy like a horse on a merry–go–round. As it does this, it passes through areas of the interstellar medium that are more and less dense, causing the heliosphere to change in shape and size. Denser areas with larger speeds relative to the Sun can compress the heliosphere more, while slower and less dense regions allow the bubble to expand..."

We are in a slower, less dense area than previously thought. Hence, no Bow Shock, just a Bow Wave. Less pressure means the heliosphere should expand, as per the article.
[link to www.ibex.swri.edu]
 Quoting: TBar1984


Yep, thanks for the input TBAR.
Next question is this- what happens when you remove pressure, density and increase the bubble protecting us? Im all for a larger Helio, but there are definately aspects of this that are going to cause concern..but nice timing i guess for more protection from the sun..
Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


I'd be willing to bet that any changes will be insignificant. There is a very good possibility that the differences are just a result of different instruments and methods of computations, and there hasn't been any appreciable change in the handful of years we've been able to measure these parameters. Remember, not too long ago they thought the heliosphere ended outside of Jupiter. Then it was Pluto, now, the Voyagers are twice as far away as Pluto and they still haven't reached interstellar space. It is already much larger than they thought not too long ago. Tell your kids to be Astronomers, the field is wide open.
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lol...already have.
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Mind = Blown!

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amazing
 Quoting: OVRANALYZE

I came to the same consclusion. The Interstellar cloud is slowing the passage of our solar system through space. It is compressing it as expected.
Everything that was being predicted is happening.
Not good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2159872

According to the IBEX Principal Investigator, you have it backwards. From [link to www.ibex.swri.edu]
"...That difference in speed, about 7,000 miles per hour (11,000 kilometers per hour), does not sound like much but it means that there is about 25% less pressure in the region in front of our heliosphere. What this also means is that there is not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism to cause a bow shock to form....Our heliosphere is like a protective cocoon being inflated in the interstellar medium by the Sun’s million mph solar wind. As our Sun orbits the center of the galaxy every couple hundred million years, it bobs in and out of the disk of the galaxy like a horse on a merry–go–round. As it does this, it passes through areas of the interstellar medium that are more and less dense, causing the heliosphere to change in shape and size. Denser areas with larger speeds relative to the Sun can compress the heliosphere more, while slower and less dense regions allow the bubble to expand..."

We are in a slower, less dense area than previously thought. Hence, no Bow Shock, just a Bow Wave. Less pressure means the heliosphere should expand, as per the article.
[link to www.ibex.swri.edu]

I just decided what my next video will be about....

ohyeah
 Quoting: TBar1984

Thanks, T-Bar, for adding all of that info. You do a great job of clarifying things and showing us the facts. Can't wait for you're video.

As you suggest, these distances are so immense to us ants on this anthill and our measuring devices are very crude for task at hand. Interstellar space, black holes, and super-earths are fun to ponder and talk about; but we've yet to unlock the mysteries of the Sun and it's at the very center of our existence.

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Going vertical! Go baby go.
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Nevermind...C3.5
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Going vertical! Go baby go.
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Is that the Monster finally waking up from his nap?


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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
TWO EARTHBOUND CMEs to HIT HOURS APART ON MAY 14.

NASA CME Forecast times:
#1
Event Issue Date: 2012-05-12 09:54:16.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2012-05-14 14:28:15.0 GMT
Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 16 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 6.2 Re

#2
Event Issue Date: 2012-05-12 00:05:12.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2012-05-14 19:26:12.0 GMT
Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 11 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 6.2 Re

I'm not sure which cygnet model is #1 or #2 (don't blame me, NASA does a poor job of labeling things. Why they can't put multiple CMEs on one cygnet is beyond me; I've seen them do it before....jes' lazy, I guess,lol). One looks like a bullseye and the other a glancing blow.

# 2 -Bullseye:
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

# 1-Glancing-

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

iSWA (see Alerts):

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

Maybe someone at NASA does monitor this thread (as well they should, right, Tomasgod?) because after my complaint last night the Earth-Sun footprint was updated today:

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

I predict big auroras somewhere on Monday night.

I checked NOAA's ENLIL Model and they show two wimpy poofs from the Fizzle-Monster...I might be wrong about the auroras, oh, well. so it goes.

NOAA's ENLIL CME Model:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 05/13/2012 12:39 AM
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The Fizzzle-Monster has continued to disappoint the excitement-mongers (like me) and the doom-cravers (like me). AR1476 has diminished in size and power, and in recent images appears to be laughing at us in a muppet-like caricature.
:fizzle-monster:

WE have seen a C4 and a C7 recently, but a downward trend in activity is evident.

C7 Flare-
:C75/13:

Someone please check SOHO and STEREO coronagraphs in the morning, but it doesn't look like any new CMEs are coming as of this posting.. Keep alert, tho, as the Sun is always full of surprises.

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The Fizzzle-Monster has continued to disappoint the excitement-mongers (like me) and the doom-cravers (like me). AR1476 has diminished in size and power, and in recent images appears to be laughing at us in a muppet-like caricature.:fizzle-monster:

WE have seen a C4 and a C7 recently, but a downward trend in activity is evident.

C7 Flare-
:C75/13:

Someone please check SOHO and STEREO coronagraphs in the morning, but it doesn't look like any new CMEs are coming as of this posting.. Keep alert, tho, as the Sun is always full of surprises.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye



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The Pleiades entering C3 FOV, Jupiter hidden behind the occulting disk, Mercury on deck and Venus in the hole.

[link to sungrazer.nrl.navy.mil]

May03-May24 Jupiter -2.0 mag left to right
May21-Jun02 Mercury -2.5 mag right to left
Jun01-Jun11 Venus -4.3 mag left to right

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

[link to imageshack.us]

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Rawr!

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Two 'Sector Boundary Crossings' in just Two Days! [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Also Electron Flux is pretty high:CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 1899
Begin Time: 2012 May 10 1415 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 11500 pfu
Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Gah.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1





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