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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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coooooh nice
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So Dettro are you saying thats a new one and not the one that is hitting tomorrow?
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This CME , that i just posted happened about 12 hours ago

before this last one that just happen.

I'm still going to through the last few pages of this page

Sorry if i confused anyone.

cheers
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So Dettro are you saying thats a new one and not the one that is hitting tomorrow?
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This CME , that i just posted happened about 12 hours ago

before this last one that just happen.

I'm still going to through the last few pages of this page

Sorry if i confused anyone.

cheers
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Data from everywhere seems to be late & inconsistent...
wmMmw
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WARNING: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse expected
Valid From: 2013 Oct 08 2020 UTC
Valid To: 2013 Oct 08 2050 UTC
IP Shock Passage Observed: 2013 Oct 08 1942 UTC

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/NOAAscales


been out what has happened this in my email
 Quoting: Goofy for God


Wow! Thanks for your vigilance GFG! This seems way too early to be from that filament eruption. This is about 24-hours early for NOAA's 'faster' arrival; and almost 48 hours early for the 'slower' NASA prediction!!

Two possibilities off the top of my head are 1) We all missed something (ie, a different event), or 2) The velocity was grossly underestimated! Without the benefit of the STEREO images of that CME it's a crap-shoot to tell the speed of a dead-on Earth-directed CME from the SOHO pics alone.

If you ever watched a baseball game, it's pretty easy to spot a change-up or a fastball from the dugout POV, but it's very difficult from the batter's POV (ie, comin' right at ya). Even the supercomputers need to triangulate data to accurately assess the velocity.

Conclusion-NASA strikes out on a fastball up and in.

200 km/sec increase in Solar Wind speed is not a weak of glancing blow...

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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3 things I really watch, SUN, EQ and Weather cause God is in control not NASA
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I can't argue with the trurh....Peace.
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WARNING: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse expected
Valid From: 2013 Oct 08 2020 UTC
Valid To: 2013 Oct 08 2050 UTC
IP Shock Passage Observed: 2013 Oct 08 1942 UTC

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/NOAAscales


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Wow! Thanks for your vigilance GFG! This seems way too early to be from that filament eruption. This is about 24-hours early for NOAA's 'faster' arrival; and almost 48 hours early for the 'slower' NASA prediction!!

Two possibilities off the top of my head are 1) We all missed something (ie, a different event), or 2) The velocity was grossly underestimated! Without the benefit of the STEREO images of that CME it's a crap-shoot to tell the speed of a dead-on Earth-directed CME from the SOHO pics alone.

If you ever watched a baseball game, it's pretty easy to spot a change-up or a fastball from the dugout POV, but it's very difficult from the batter's POV (ie, comin' right at ya). Even the supercomputers need to triangulate data to accurately assess the velocity.

Conclusion-NASA strikes out on a fastball up and in.

200 km/sec increase in Solar Wind speed is not a weak of glancing blow...

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
arnoldSolarDoom!
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3 things I really watch, SUN, EQ and Weather cause God is in control not NASA
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I can't argue with the trurh....Peace.
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This.
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:cme1008:

:2cme1008:

[link to helio.gmu.edu]
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So Dettro are you saying thats a new one and not the one that is hitting tomorrow?
 Quoting: WatcherJ


This CME , that i just posted happened about 12 hours ago

before this last one that just happen.

I'm still going to through the last few pages of this page

Sorry if i confused anyone.

cheers
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Thanks, Dettro, that was from the huge prominence eruption earlier today. (not Earth-directed). Got this link from spaceweather.com to an SDO 304 gif movie of the liftoff....very impressive.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

The CME that's hitting now had precious-few images to find. Sol likes to erupt just as the coronagraphs go on hiatus....it's just one of the things which are driving me crazy, LOL.

Just for the Department of Redundancy Department, here's the NASA CME prognostication-
Event Issue Date: 2013-10-06 17:28:36.0 GMT
CME Arrival Time: 2013-10-09 18:42:27.0 GMT

Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours
Disturbance Duration: 29 hours
Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours
Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 6.8 Re
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Space Weather Message Code: WARK06
Serial Number: 233
Issue Time: 2013 Oct 08 2258 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-Index of 6 expected
Valid From: 2013 Oct 08 2257 UTC
Valid To: 2013 Oct 09 0300 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
NOAA Scale: G2 - Moderate
 Quoting: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Potential G2 action, neato popcorn
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Space Weather Message Code: WARK06
Serial Number: 233
Issue Time: 2013 Oct 08 2258 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-Index of 6 expected
Valid From: 2013 Oct 08 2257 UTC
Valid To: 2013 Oct 09 0300 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
NOAA Scale: G2 - Moderate
 Quoting: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Potential G2 action, neato popcorn
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I like sneaky G2 storms.lol
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Was this the one?
CME0029 - 08-Oct-2013 20:54 peaks at 2000 Km/s
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
Movie is here: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
JPG is here: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
CMEs detected by Cactus: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
Estimated 3-hour Planetary Kp-index: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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Space Weather Message Code: WARK06
Serial Number: 233
Issue Time: 2013 Oct 08 2258 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-Index of 6 expected
Valid From: 2013 Oct 08 2257 UTC
Valid To: 2013 Oct 09 0300 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
NOAA Scale: G2 - Moderate
 Quoting: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Potential G2 action, neato popcorn
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I like sneaky G2 storms.lol
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Me too.

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Was this the one?
CME0029 - 08-Oct-2013 20:54 peaks at 2000 Km/s
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
Movie is here: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
JPG is here: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
CMEs detected by Cactus: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
Estimated 3-hour Planetary Kp-index: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Howdy, Joinca hi the incoming plasma is from a mid-disk filament eruption on the 6th. STEREO missed it and so did the CACTus computers. I said at the time that this was 'well-aimed at Earth' but I had no way of even guessing the strength or velocity without all of the images. Evidently well-aimed CMEs tend to get here quicker and escape detection by CACTus. You can see a halo CME in this CACTus movie, but CACTus recorded no halo CMEs on that date.

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

This is why vigilant Solar-Watchers are even better than the space agencies supercomputers like CACTus, Solarsoft. Thanks to GONG and SDO we can see events develop from their initial eruptions.

Well-Aimed at Earth-
sun-earth-cme
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Was this the one?
CME0029 - 08-Oct-2013 20:54 peaks at 2000 Km/s
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
Movie is here: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
JPG is here: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
CMEs detected by Cactus: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
Estimated 3-hour Planetary Kp-index: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Howdy, Joinca hi the incoming plasma is from a mid-disk filament eruption on the 6th. STEREO missed it and so did the CACTus computers. I said at the time that this was 'well-aimed at Earth' but I had no way of even guessing the strength or velocity without all of the images. Evidently well-aimed CMEs tend to get here quicker and escape detection by CACTus. You can see a halo CME in this CACTus movie, but CACTus recorded no halo CMEs on that date.

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

This is why vigilant Solar-Watchers are even better than the space agencies supercomputers like CACTus, Solarsoft. Thanks to GONG and SDO we can see events develop from their initial eruptions.

Well-Aimed at Earth-
sun-earth-cme
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Very Nice!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Was this the one?
CME0029 - 08-Oct-2013 20:54 peaks at 2000 Km/s
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
Movie is here: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
JPG is here: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
CMEs detected by Cactus: [link to www.sidc.oma.be]
Estimated 3-hour Planetary Kp-index: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: joinca


Howdy, Joinca hi the incoming plasma is from a mid-disk filament eruption on the 6th. STEREO missed it and so did the CACTus computers. I said at the time that this was 'well-aimed at Earth' but I had no way of even guessing the strength or velocity without all of the images. Evidently well-aimed CMEs tend to get here quicker and escape detection by CACTus. You can see a halo CME in this CACTus movie, but CACTus recorded no halo CMEs on that date.

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

This is why vigilant Solar-Watchers are even better than the space agencies supercomputers like CACTus, Solarsoft. Thanks to GONG and SDO we can see events develop from their initial eruptions.

Well-Aimed at Earth-
sun-earth-cme
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Thanks Hugh. As always the sun crew rocks!!!
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We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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Hopefully it doesn't reach G5 since my cloud cover here.
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Before this unexpected storm hit I was preparing to alert the reader to the fabulous configuration of Venus and the crescent Moon (...and also Mercury and Saturn if you have a good vantage of the western horizon). It was absolutely breathtaking last night and now again this evening in twilight. I had the added bonus of working a graveyard shift last night/this morning and so I also got to see Jupiter and Mars in the east at 5AM! With good eyesight (or binos) , clear skies, and a freedom-from-light-pollution, you can see the beautiful crescent Moon and all five inner planets (six if you look down at your feet!). I dare the government to shut that down, haha.

[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

Special Note to GeoStorm- check out the triple-transit shadows of Jupiter's Moons on the 11th...might be a nice photo-op.:)
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Hi Sol crew, I have neglected my suntard duties in the past weeks not though wanting,
it seems my road less travelled has become an express way of events.

Love & light all.

Sunspot AR 1857 09 10 2013
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Sunspots 1161 & unnumbered new spots 09 10 2013
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Unnumbered new sunspots 09 10 2013
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In the estimated Kp7+ range???????
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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In the estimated Kp7+ range???????
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Wasn't expecting that
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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We got a climber!

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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C5.2
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C6.2 and rising?
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C8.3
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m 1.0
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Reached M..
M1.0

Still rising.
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NOAA seems perplexed about this CME, too. They seem to indicate as I suggested that some event went unnoticed and they seem to hold out expectations of the filament CME hitting us tomorrow night. Confusion reigns.

Solar Activity

.24 hr Summary...
Solar activity was very low. Region 1861 (S13E50, Bxo/beta) produced a
B-class flare. New Regions 1863 (S18E19, Bxo/beta), 1864 (S23E62,
Hsx/alpha), and 1865 (S20E70, Cao/beta) were numbered.
A large
prominence erupted from the northeast limb at around 08/0030 UTC
associated with a non-Earth-directed coronal mass ejection (CME). No
Earth-directed CMEs were detected during the period.

Solar Wind .Forecast...
CME effects are expected to persist during the first half of Oct. 9,
then gradually subside. Analysis is inconclusive as to whether the
current effects are from the CME associated with the filament eruption
on Oct. 6 or a different, undetected CME.
If they are separate events,
effects from the current CME should persist through the first part of
Oct 9 then begin to wane through midday. The CME from the filament
eruption on Oct. 6 is then expected to arrive late on Oct. 9, again
increasing wind speed and IMF Bt.
CME effects are expected to persist
through midday on Oct. 10, then gradually subside. Wind speed is
expected to increase on Oct. 11 due to the onset of a coronal hole
high-speed stream (CH HSS).
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Current ACE data shows that solar plasma density reached near 60p/cu.cm.-

2013 10 08 2051 56573 75060 0 34.2 421.4 2.34e+05
2013 10 08 2052 56573 75120 1 34.7 445.9 2.48e+05
2013 10 08 2053 56573 75180 0 3.4 342.3 6.10e+04
2013 10 08 2054 56573 75240 1 23.3 434.5 2.71e+05
2013 10 08 2055 56573 75300 1 30.4 420.8 2.78e+05
2013 10 08 2056 56573 75360 0 33.0 440.6 2.30e+05
2013 10 08 2057 56573 75420 0 12.3 380.7 1.14e+05
2013 10 08 2058 56573 75480 1 26.3 387.3 1.87e+05
2013 10 08 2059 56573 75540 1 38.3 443.8 2.38e+05
2013 10 08 2100 56573 75600 0 38.3 461.3 1.80e+05
2013 10 08 2101 56573 75660 0 47.7 448.0 1.53e+05
2013 10 08 2102 56573 75720 0 58.6 427.6 1.48e+05
2013 10 08 2103 56573 75780 0 56.1 390.9 1.21e+05
2013 10 08 2104 56573 75840 0 10.4 364.7 7.41e+04
2013 10 08 2105 56573 75900 0 53.4 449.0 1.55e+05
2013 10 08 2106 56573 75960 0 56.0


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
and now we have an M-Flare!!

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siren2siren2siren2

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M1.3
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God...M1.6 and still rising..
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M1.9 and still rising..wth..
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M2.5 time go down.





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