Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 904314 Canada 05/03/2011 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For all the wrong people saying it is 1: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314600[link to en.wikipedia.org] Please go read that page, all of it, and learn proper steps of algebra/mathematics. Then try again. The correct/logical/true answer, is 9. Please go learn that 2(1+2) is one parenthesis equation which parses as (2*1 + 2*2) BEFORE the 6/xxx part |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314600 Canada 05/03/2011 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | btw. this question is on facebook: Quoting: MrSmith1: 1,534,946 votes 9: 1,978,015 votes lol but i still say it's 1 But then you'd be wrong, wouldn't you? ;) [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 300884 Sweden 05/03/2011 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be fair to the OP, there IS an old precedence of using '÷' the way he does (signifying an implicit denominator expression to the end of the line, without needing parentheses). It's not been used that way in a looong time, but when you really dig into it, you'll find there was an old German algebra book where it happened: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884"The obelus (÷) was first used as a division symbol by Johann Rahn (or Rhonius) (1622-1676) in 1659 in Teutsche Algebra (Cajori vol. 2, page 211)." [link to jeff560.tripod.com] So one could perhaps claim the oldest known use for the obelus symbol should have precedence over how it's commonly used today, so that 6÷2(1+2) implies 6÷[2(1+2)] = 9 Just as the OP likes it. Unfortunately, this is only the oldest known use of the obelus AS DIVISION, as we see further down: "The division symbol (the obelus) was used by many writers before Rahn as a minus sign." OK, if we think the oldest known usage should take precedence over more contemporary usage, we must therefore read 6÷2(1+2) as being equal to 6-2(1+2) = 0 But then, it turns out the obelus was commonly used even before that, to mean A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR, so the absolute oldest meaning of 6÷2(1+2) is 6 <TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR!> 2(1+2) Which sums it up pretty nicely, in that the common symbol for division is '/', and putting a '÷' there instead, just to try and be clever, is a bad typographic choice. If we do the right thing, and write 6/2(1+2) then there's no problem, the result is of course 9, as per standard algebraic rules. Neat history lesson. And we come full circle. Because among those people for whom mathematics is a language, the given expression would be somewhat of a typographical error, requiring clarification. Indeed. If the purpose is clear communication, relying on obscure and unclear semantics of rarely used symbols is a bad idea. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314600 Canada 05/03/2011 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For all the wrong people saying it is 1: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314600[link to en.wikipedia.org] Please go read that page, all of it, and learn proper steps of algebra/mathematics. Then try again. The correct/logical/true answer, is 9. Please go learn that 2(1+2) is one parenthesis equation which parses as (2*1 + 2*2) BEFORE the 6/xxx part You are wrong. The 2 outside is not part of a bracketed operation. Therefore, it is 2*3, which must come after the 6 divided by 2. Therefore, it is 3 * 3, which equals 9. Pure and perfect mathematical logic truth. 9 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1343557 United States 05/03/2011 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And we come full circle. Because among those people for whom mathematics is a language, the given expression would be somewhat of a typographical error, requiring clarification. Quoting: oniongrassAs I said in one of my fist posts on this thread...NO ONE worth their salt would write that equation that ambiguously... However...AS written, there is only one 'correct' answer, and that is 1... You either understand the connotations of using an Obelus in this situation, or like many of you, you ignorantly replace it with a solidus (either in your mind or on paper), and thus get the incorrect answer of 9... |
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MrSmith User ID: 1368629 Germany 05/03/2011 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | btw. this question is on facebook: Quoting: MrSmith1: 1,534,946 votes 9: 1,978,015 votes lol but i still say it's 1 But then you'd be wrong, wouldn't you? ;) [link to en.wikipedia.org] i learned that x(a+b) is the same as (xa+xb) and if that would be wrong... then 80% of the shit we done at shool would be wrong... so i still think it's 1... most people think it's 9 because google say it is... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 904314 Canada 05/03/2011 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are wrong. The 2 outside is not part of a bracketed operation. Therefore, it is 2*3, which must come after the 6 divided by 2. Therefore, it is 3 * 3, which equals 9. Pure and perfect mathematical logic truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13146009 So you are saying that y / x(2+4) = (y/x) * (2+4), and you would be very wrong. It's y / x(2+4) = y /(2x+4x) that's the rule. Argue all you want, that is still the rule. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1362610 Spain 05/03/2011 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, I have already: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314600In proper mathematics: 6÷2(1+2) the bracketed operation MUST be done first (in a calculator, you would enter those first) 6÷2(3) then you do multiplication and division, in order as they appear 6÷2(3) can also be written correctly as 6÷2*3 since both operations are forms of multiplication therefore 3*3 9 Quod Erat Demonstrandum Please listen to your intellectual superiors. Thank you. I agree, but what about the difference between ÷ and / ? if ÷ represents a fraction, the answer is 1 if ÷ represents division, the answer is 9 so it all boils down to how ÷ should be interpreted... Well OP? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314600 Canada 05/03/2011 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9 Quoting: KMETNo, the equation is 6 divided by 2(1+2) = 1. I was wrong, you are wrong, best to admit it. You are wrong. 9 is the correct mathematical answer. The 2 is outside of the brackets, thus not part of the (3). Best to perhaps learn the proper math? [link to math.about.com] [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to www.math.com] Please listen to your intellectual superiors. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 904314 Canada 05/03/2011 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, I have already: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314600In proper mathematics: 6÷2(1+2) the bracketed operation MUST be done first (in a calculator, you would enter those first) 6÷2(3) then you do multiplication and division, in order as they appear 6÷2(3) can also be written correctly as 6÷2*3 since both operations are forms of multiplication therefore 3*3 9 Quod Erat Demonstrandum Please listen to your intellectual superiors. Thank you. I agree, but what about the difference between ÷ and / ? if ÷ represents a fraction, the answer is 1 if ÷ represents division, the answer is 9 so it all boils down to how ÷ should be interpreted... Well OP? The OP answered by saying there is only 1 answer, and put the number 1 in bold The argument about ÷ and / is irrelevant, 2(x+y) has to be expanded to (2x+y2) as part of the parenthesis operation |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314600 Canada 05/03/2011 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | btw. this question is on facebook: Quoting: MrSmith1: 1,534,946 votes 9: 1,978,015 votes lol but i still say it's 1 But then you'd be wrong, wouldn't you? ;) [link to en.wikipedia.org] i learned that x(a+b) is the same as (xa+xb) and if that would be wrong... then 80% of the shit we done at shool would be wrong... so i still think it's 1... most people think it's 9 because google say it is... You are wrong. The 2 outside is not part of a bracketed operation. Therefore, it is 2*3, which must come after the 6 divided by 2. Therefore, it is 3 * 3, which equals 9. Pure and perfect mathematical logic truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13146009 So you are saying that y / x(2+4) = (y/x) * (2+4), and you would be very wrong. It's y / x(2+4) = y /(2x+4x) that's the rule. Argue all you want, that is still the rule. Both of you please read [link to en.wikipedia.org] in your language. You are both incorrect. The mathematical answer is 9. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314600 Canada 05/03/2011 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, I have already: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314600In proper mathematics: 6÷2(1+2) the bracketed operation MUST be done first (in a calculator, you would enter those first) 6÷2(3) then you do multiplication and division, in order as they appear 6÷2(3) can also be written correctly as 6÷2*3 since both operations are forms of multiplication therefore 3*3 9 Quod Erat Demonstrandum Please listen to your intellectual superiors. Thank you. I agree, but what about the difference between ÷ and / ? if ÷ represents a fraction, the answer is 1 if ÷ represents division, the answer is 9 so it all boils down to how ÷ should be interpreted... Well OP? The OP answered by saying there is only 1 answer, and put the number 1 in bold The argument about ÷ and / is irrelevant, 2(x+y) has to be expanded to (2x+y2) as part of the parenthesis operation That is incorrect handling of the operand. Please review Order of Operations. Also, a fraction is a representation of division, but all numbers are full integers (Whole numbers) and there are no fractions present in the notation. The mathematical answer is 9. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1368557 Australia 05/03/2011 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And we come full circle. Because among those people for whom mathematics is a language, the given expression would be somewhat of a typographical error, requiring clarification. Quoting: oniongrassAs I said in one of my fist posts on this thread...NO ONE worth their salt would write that equation that ambiguously... However...AS written, there is only one 'correct' answer, and that is 1... You either understand the connotations of using an Obelus in this situation, or like many of you, you ignorantly replace it with a solidus (either in your mind or on paper), and thus get the incorrect answer of 9... Obelus or Solidus ... cool .. therein lies the answer .. 1 .. biWINNING learn something new everyday .. thanks GLP =P time to leave this thread |
Desbob User ID: 1368472 United Kingdom 05/03/2011 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9 Quoting: KMETNo, the equation is 6 divided by 2(1+2) = 1. I was wrong, you are wrong, best to admit it. In words; six divided by two multiplied by the product of one plus two = six divided by two multiplied by three (NOT six divided by the product of two times three as some seem to think, there are no brackets forcing this computation before the division.) division and multiplication treated equaly so in order of appearence; = three multiplied by three = nine 2(1+2) of course does equal 6 but the equation is not simply 2(1+2), it is 6÷2(1+2) which is completely different. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314600 Canada 05/03/2011 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please listen to your intellectual superiors. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314600I every time you write that... Haha thank you. Also, for those incorrect people thinking that "2(x+y) has to be expanded to (2x+y2)" you are dealing with 2 variables, whereas this equation has no variables whatsoever. All operands are utilizing full integers, whole numbers. Absolute numbers. The absolute answer, logically, utilizing proper steps of Orders of Operation, is 9. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1343557 United States 05/03/2011 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | still this does not explain some calculators coming up with 1. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1362610Probably operator error. Yeah...That HAS to be it Paste these in the link: 6÷2(1+2) = 6/2(1+2) = [link to www.myalgebra.com] Let us know what you find... |
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MrSmith User ID: 1368629 Germany 05/03/2011 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Both of you please read Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314600[link to en.wikipedia.org] in your language. You are both incorrect. The mathematical answer is 9. are you nuts? terms inside parenthesis Quoting: wikifuckexponents and roots multiplication and division addition and subtraction so? 6÷2(1+2) = ? 6÷2(3) = ? 6÷6 = 1 or 6÷2(1+2) = ? 6÷(2*1+2*2) = ? 6÷(2+4) = ? 6÷(6) = ? 6÷6 = 1 omg |