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Last minute tips for parents when the SHTF

 
Don'tBeAfraid

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I cannot know what all Christians are doing. I know that among many American Christians, the number one reason they don't prepare is they feel safe. They believe that God will protect them from evil, and if we come to the last days, then God will rapture every Christian soul to safety. As such, they need not fear and they need not store supplies.

That kind of thinking shows a real lack of studying Holy Scripture as well as having careless disregard for anyone else who's not a Christian.

Is that born out by evidence? Is there anything in the Bible that says American Christians won't suffer at the hands of Satan.

No. It's a false belief. American Christians suffer every day because of Evil. Worse, some who pretend to be Christians teach false doctrines.


All over the world, Christians suffer. Don't lie to yourself and think, "Well I live a superpower nation. I am safe from persecution. That's happening to those Christians because of repressive governments and radical fundamentalist religions. That's not coming from evil."

That ^ kind of thinking is heresy. It's a belief that American Christians are somehow the New Israel and therefore have some kind of exclusive shield over them. It is nonsense.

Stop believing that God will magically shield you. It can happen here in America. It can happen in any Western nation. It can happen anywhere.

Throughout history, God comes to the rescue of God's people. God uses supernatural force and angels to come to not only the aid of Christians but also unbelievers.

Perhaps even moment by moment miracles are happening to protect you.

That doesn't mean you are bulletproof. That doesn't mean that if you're devout that no criminal won't attack your family. That doesn't mean a repessive government won't jail Christians. That doesn't mean people won't enslave you.

They have throughout history. Christians in all nations continue to suffer at the hands of Evil.

You have a responsibility to store up supplies, learn skills, and arm yourself. If you do not, then you will not be able to protect yourself.

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Only Jesus the Christ saves your soul. You cannot do it. No other religion can do it. Being good cannot accomplish it. No other spiritual writing can save you.

Jesus Saves


John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Hebrews 4:15 - For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.

Matthew 16:16 - And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1 John 2:2 - And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
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I cannot know what all Christians are doing. I know that among many American Christians, the number one reason they don't prepare is they feel safe. They believe that God will protect them from evil, and if we come to the last days, then God will rapture every Christian soul to safety. As such, they need not fear and they need not store supplies.

That kind of thinking shows a real lack of studying Holy Scripture as well as having careless disregard for anyone else who's not a Christian.

Is that born out by evidence? Is there anything in the Bible that says American Christians won't suffer at the hands of Satan.

No. It's a false belief. American Christians suffer every day because of Evil. Worse, some who pretend to be Christians teach false doctrines.


All over the world, Christians suffer. Don't lie to yourself and think, "Well I live a superpower nation. I am safe from persecution. That's happening to those Christians because of repressive governments and radical fundamentalist religions. That's not coming from evil."

That ^ kind of thinking is heresy. It's a belief that American Christians are somehow the New Israel and therefore have some kind of exclusive shield over them. It is nonsense.

Stop believing that God will magically shield you. It can happen here in America. It can happen in any Western nation. It can happen anywhere.

Throughout history, God comes to the rescue of God's people. God uses supernatural force and angels to come to not only the aid of Christians but also unbelievers.

Perhaps even moment by moment miracles are happening to protect you.

That doesn't mean you are bulletproof. That doesn't mean that if you're devout that no criminal won't attack your family. That doesn't mean a repessive government won't jail Christians. That doesn't mean people won't enslave you.

They have throughout history. Christians in all nations continue to suffer at the hands of Evil.

You have a responsibility to store up supplies, learn skills, and arm yourself. If you do not, then you will not be able to protect yourself.
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They feeel safe because they are in churches that are led by Satan's men. America is not Babylon, but it is part of Babylon. Call it the NWO if you like. It is the same thing. NWO is not something that is coming. It is something that already is and has been for a long long time.

Christianity has been taken over. In fact it happened a very long time ago. Satan runs the church. The real church is those believers scattered around the earth who know that the organized church in all of its various denominations is false.
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They feeel safe because they are in churches that are led by Satan's men. America is not Babylon, but it is part of Babylon. Call it the NWO if you like. It is the same thing. NWO is not something that is coming. It is something that already is and has been for a long long time.

Christianity has been taken over. In fact it happened a very long time ago. Satan runs the church. The real church is those believers scattered around the earth who know that the organized church in all of its various denominations is false.
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Many Christians are duped by Satanic influences.

All American Christians are not. That's a fallacy.

Christianity has not been taken over. That is illogical and false. Making blanket statements like that is unwise and imprudent.

The bolded term about the organized church is false. You are condemning anyone who is in what you are labeling the "organized church".
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A technique for shooting arrows more rapidly and accurately

Lars Andersen fires arrows not by drawing from a quiver, but by holding three at once. By doing so, not only can he fire faster, but also has learned to fire instinctively. He's also been able to fire more than ten arrows before the first strikes the ground.






EDIT: By the way, in history archers both planted their arrows in the dirt in front of them to contaminate the tips before battle as well as in manure to cause an infection.

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[link to www.appropedia.org]

Here's a very brief link which shows how to simply make a luggage carrier for a bicycle. It's highly likely that a tribe will use a lot of bicycles to get around and transport supplies.
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You'll notice that I almost always include multiple links to sites with evidence of prepping skills, rather than simply spout information.
Thread: DOOMSDAY PREPPERS - half of preppers will die of wrong canning methods
^Here's an example of what NOT to do. In this case, an alleged prepper is posting ridiculous disinformation about canning methods. You see how I posted evidence from a medical sites as well as canning sites to show the falseness of his/her claims.

If anything we need MORE canning not less, for the actual incidence rate of botulims is so small, only 1000 documented cases worldwide in 7 billion people, and on average 100 cases or less in the USA each year. Most not fatal.

In a time of poor global economy, canning allows you to preserve your food cheaply and only requires purchasing some minimal equipment. In addition, some canning jar lids are made to be reuseable. Only the most wasteful person would discount canning as it's a tried and true method of safe food preservation.

Personally, I think dehydration is more important, but that's up for you to decide based upon good critical thinking and pantry space. Freezing is ok, but what if you lose power?

If you find bad prepping advice, here or anywhere, please set the record straight. The goal is to create inexpensive, simple skills that can easily be communicated. I'm not perfect by any means, so I certainly make mistakes all day long, and hence why I almost always provide documentation so you can see precisely how to do something.

If someone is clearly spreading disinformation, then first a polite correction should be posted in their topic, and then if that doesn't work, a one starring of bad information, red karma, and even reporting abusive disinformation is in order.

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[link to www.ibiblio.org]

This is a famous painting by Hokusai, a Japanese artist who lived from 1760-1849 AD. It has great personal meaning for me, for I am a world traveler and have been to Hawaii and the Caribbean as well as Japan and have seen enormous waves.

Everyone immediately notices the mighty wave that's about to crash down. Did you also notice the slender ships, more like long canoes that will be hit by that wave? I bet any sailor or fisherman worth his salt noticed them instinctively. They are not running in terror, are they?

Look at the canoe in the foreground that almost has reached the wave. If they keep paddling they might crest it and so avoid it. In the background the lagging canoe is going to be flooded because of circumstances or laziness or both.

Great disaster can strike, often repeatedly by the next wave of an unfolding disaster. More often than not, it's not one thing like the weather, but all of the failures of a supply chain, loss of utilities, lack of supplies, lack of medical training, etc that cause injuries, malnutrition, illness, and death in a disaster.

It would be wisdom to click on that famous painting and print it out and post it in your bathroom near the mirror. Then you would likely learn skills and buy supplies and get right with God, for a wave might be in your near future.

We don't fear a disaster. We prepare for it like the people of God have always prepared. If we do that, then we can do what we historically do as Christians: we help our neighbors in need from our abundance.

Don't be like some Japanese were during the time period of Hokusai. They knew that great waves could overtake them, and actually intentionally didn't learn to swim, for they felt it was hopeless again the Sea. How foolish! Prepare instead like a steadfast sailor and grit your teeth and prepare for the Next Wave.

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I'm strong and wealthy enough that I don't have to prep

This statement above is a common reason most people don't prep. Even in this economy, they have enough money that they can purchase luxury food items, eat in expensive restaurants, take vacations around the world, and so they feel relatively safe in their current financial situation. They may be under 40 and so they feel relatively healthy, and so they have a mental idea of their physicality, and so they feel somewhat secure as to their ability to “handle it”.

Is that sort of thinking based upon reality or based upon subjective opinion? I'm going to challenge you to actually sit down and do a net worth statement. That's a disciplined method of calculating your assets from securities, cash, valuables, and real estate and contrast that with liabilities like remaining principal on your home mortgage, outstanding bills, and other debt you must pay off. Now figure in the event of an emergency how “liquid” those assets are. Liquidity is a measure of how much time it would take to convert assets into cash to either accumulate or to pay liabilities. Now measure the chances of loss of wages suddenly versus your assets and calculate how long you could reasonably continue at your present living standard of living on that money.

It isn't long, is it? If you're like most people, you might have six months to a year if you lost your job. Maybe two if more disciplined. If you're not disciplined at all, then you might be living paycheck to paycheck and literally could be homeless in two months as eviction notices come in.

Now let's do an assessment of your physical strength. Go to the gym and workout with a buddy to measure your upper and lower body strength and also your endurance. Do this for a week, not just once and see how sore you get and how you decline in those areas. If you're like most people, if you look at something like the physical fitness scores for a soldier of your nation, I'll bet that you score abjectly low.

You have a very false sense of security. In a disaster or collapse over 90 % of people are poorly prepared. If it lasts more than two weeks, more than 95% are poorly prepared and will be dehydrated, malnourished, cold, and miserable.

Snap out of your slumber. Turn off the TV. Get in shape, gather supplies, and learn skills. Spend more time building up the relationships with your friends and family so that if a disaster came, then you could pool your resources as a TRIBE. If not spiritual, then ask yourself, “Why am I avoiding going to church and reading the Bible and teaching my children and being a good husband for my wife?” I can tell you this, if you are balanced and sincere and intentionally becoming more spiritual, I don't know any wives that wouldn't love their husbands MORE not less. It will transform you.

Doing these simple things in a measured way and you can truly feel more secure and probably will become more frugal as well. In fact, it's difficult to not become more and more humble the more that you learn and the more close you become to friends and family and God. It's a natural consequence of living a connected abundant life.

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Thread: Nearly Half Of American Families Live On The Edge Of Financial Ruin

Half of USA housholds on the edge of financial ruin
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Thread: WNDTV Live Stream Free EMP Talk @ 12 PM EST on Feb 5th
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Thread: North Korea Declares MARTIAL LAW (Page 9)

My analysis of the current North Korea situation. In my estimation, it is every bit as serious as the Cuban Missle Crisis based upon the instability of NK.

I posted many links to documentation of my assertions in that topic.
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Here's a post on becoming a more self-aware person and consequently becoming more altruistic through that process of reflection.
Thread: Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU (Page 12)
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bump
This is good stuff.
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Thanks again for these wonderful ideas.
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You accept the love you think you deserve~~~

Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~

Truth has no temperature~~~

Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~

Have no regrets~~~
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again because of good info here ;)
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Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~

Truth has no temperature~~~

Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~

Have no regrets~~~
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best thread ever for saving both money and your loved ones, even on non-sh*t days.
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learn how to save money making so many foods. Good luck all with this great thread.
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parents?

no parents here

can you inagine like your dad on a conspiracy site arguing with strangers?

lol

only parents on here would be fem insane retards with retarded brats
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glad to bump this thread again.
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glad to bump this thread again.
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Damn, lol. Every time this thread gets bumped, I hope op is back.

hf Excellent thread hf
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The chair is against the wall.
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Take their laptop and format the hard-drive

punishment complete.
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[link to ppsimmons.blogspot.com]
Nothing further from me. Buy supplies now. Get right with Jesus.
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great thread and important right now.
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I can't believe people are still reading my old posts. Didn't you get enough back when I was active?
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I can't believe people are still reading my old posts. Didn't you get enough back when I was active?
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Welcome back!!
Of course we are! It's an awesome thread. hf
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I love this thread :)
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OK since there were so many devoted readers of this topic, one more won't hurt and might help...

Pine Cambium: a simple food almost anyone can gather.

Pine cambium is a survival food that the Native Americans and the Pioneers ate in order to make it during rough periods without food.

Cambium is the very fine layer depicted in Green Deane's video seen below. Think the tiny non-woody layer that transports fluids and nutrients through the tree. Scarring a tree's cambium is a bad thing if you do it all around. Don't or you'll kill the tree. Take a little from several trees. Obviously if you're harvesting this, you're desperate.

It is most sweetest in the Spring:
"Timing is everything. The cambium is at its sweet, succulent prime about the time when new needles are growing and the pollen cones are ripe. Too soon, and the sap will not be running and cambium will be thin and dry. Too late, and it will stick to the bark when you peel it off (although you can still scrape it from the inside of the bark). The perfect time is when a tap on a branch releases a cloud of pollen."
[link to washingtondnr.wordpress.com]

Now why would this be vital? Glycogen can be used up readily under work, and so your blood sugar can drops precipitously. That means that this is a great way to help balance that out in a survival situation. Since Pine is easily identifiable then you could teach anyone in your Tribe to do it.

Here's some nutritional information from a lengthy naturalist's scientific abstract on the nutritional value of pine. That could be utilized for humans or animals as fodder.
[link to dspace.library.uvic.ca:8080]
"The results show high sugar concentrations in cambium, as expected, along with a range of vitamins and minerals and almost equal amounts of protein and carbohydrate. The
primary minerals were: aluminum, calcium, magnesium, manganese, phosphorus and,potassium, with trace amounts of other minerals. There were no significant levels of vitamins
present; the only notable value is a low level of Niacin. Hardly any Vitamin C, was present.
There were also no significant levels of toxins present. "

Per 100 gram serving:
51 Calories (which ain't great), but 6.7 g total sugars (and so 10.64 total grams of Carbs), 6.25 grams of protein. Not too shabby. Every little bit helps.

The youtube video describing one method for preparing it by frying. It can simply be eaten on the fly as a raw snack too.
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