This Sun Grazing Comet Is NOT a Small Comet... | |
Sol-Magmatard 26 User ID: 1463643 United States 10/01/2011 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That one looks concerning. Looks like a partial photospheric eruption, I would say it is probably in direct response to the comet impact. That is a massive amount of plasma lifting off from the sun I'd say easily on the order of 1e-9 Solar mass. The next question is does it have escape velocity or will it rain back down onto the surface of the sun. formerly Magmatard 26 |
outofspace User ID: 1554303 Poland 10/01/2011 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] PROTON FLUX Steady and Normal No Reaction at all, so nothing bad happen. Nice pictures, but it's over :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1553688 United Kingdom 10/01/2011 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hm. The shapes of the two CMEs suggest the comet (or whatever it was) had some gravity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195264 Gravity!!!!!!! LMFAO haha comets do not have gravity haha its just the reaction of an huge iceberg hitting the sun its just like you pissing into a volcano it will hiss & fizz haha Gravity |
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markemai User ID: 2436669 United Kingdom 10/01/2011 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That one looks concerning. Looks like a partial photospheric eruption, I would say it is probably in direct response to the comet impact. That is a massive amount of plasma lifting off from the sun I'd say easily on the order of 1e-9 Solar mass. The next question is does it have escape velocity or will it rain back down onto the surface of the sun. That being the case do you think this event may support the idea of electrical interaction between comets and the sun? only Love can heal the earth |
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Jhoevz User ID: 2413930 Saudi Arabia 10/01/2011 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yup..wow.. great images and I had a great night..shows over but still need some updates tom. night everyone . Last Edited by Jhoevz on 10/01/2011 06:43 PM |
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2cents (OP) User ID: 2368267 United States 10/01/2011 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yup..wow.. Quoting: Jhoevz great images and I had a great night..shows over but still need some updates tom. night everyone . We will have great movies of this to watch tomorrow and even more in a couple of days when STEREO goes to hi-res images...mark my words...those images missing today will be inserted in the next couple of days...they always withhold realtime data when they are unsure of the outcome and scrambling to study the images themselves. |
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Sol-Magmatard 26 User ID: 1463643 United States 10/01/2011 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That one looks concerning. Looks like a partial photospheric eruption, I would say it is probably in direct response to the comet impact. That is a massive amount of plasma lifting off from the sun I'd say easily on the order of 1e-9 Solar mass. The next question is does it have escape velocity or will it rain back down onto the surface of the sun. That being the case do you think this event may support the idea of electrical interaction between comets and the sun? No. It's a matter of momentum transference and given the sun is a large ball of plasma it is inherently variable, the introduction of a small cometary body most likely just triggered a pending event. The electric universe theory has had most of it's hypotheses fail to be proven. Where as the quantum universe has had most of it's proven. That said most of the suppositions for the electric universe are based on fallacious logic. formerly Magmatard 26 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1610534 United States 10/01/2011 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That being the case do you think this event may support the idea of electrical interaction between comets and the sun? Quoting: Sol-Magmatard 26 No. It's a matter of momentum transference and given the sun is a large ball of plasma it is inherently variable, the introduction of a small cometary body most likely just triggered a pending event. The electric universe theory has had most of it's hypotheses fail to be proven. Where as the quantum universe has had most of it's proven. That said most of the suppositions for the electric universe are based on fallacious logic. Like hell, tard. You spew out vast lies and then move right along. "Momentum transference" form a speck of a comet? Transferred to "plasma dynamics" across the entire face of the sun to trigger a gigantic CME? LOL! Care to PROVE that MASSIVE increase of energy in your bogus mystical momentum-to-plasma- scaled-up-by-a-trillion theory? What a jackass! Go ahead - tell us what "most of the hypotheses" of the electric universe theory are, and then how they were falsified - and while you're at it, show how the electric theory that explains the extreme temperature difference between the corona of the sun versus it's massively cooler depths was falsified. And then, tell us what "most of the hypotheses" of the quantum universe theory are, and how they were proven - and while you're at it, send them to the stupid physicists at CERN who are spending billions trying to prove even the simplest of the quantum universe theories. What a bald-faced liar you are! You're just another affirmative action shill with a "Beginner's Guide to Physics" in your lap, typing with one hand and wanking with the other, and the instructions from your handlers to attack any observations of the electric universe theory in action. What a job, eh - destroying the knowledge of the entire human race for your stinking paycheck. You think your employers are going to take care of YOUR family? LOL! You moron sellout hack traitor! |
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Mojofabulous User ID: 1476210 United States 10/01/2011 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That being the case do you think this event may support the idea of electrical interaction between comets and the sun? Quoting: Sol-Magmatard 26 No. It's a matter of momentum transference and given the sun is a large ball of plasma it is inherently variable, the introduction of a small cometary body most likely just triggered a pending event. The electric universe theory has had most of it's hypotheses fail to be proven. Where as the quantum universe has had most of it's proven. That said most of the suppositions for the electric universe are based on fallacious logic. Like hell, tard. You spew out vast lies and then move right along. "Momentum transference" form a speck of a comet? Transferred to "plasma dynamics" across the entire face of the sun to trigger a gigantic CME? LOL! Care to PROVE that MASSIVE increase of energy in your bogus mystical momentum-to-plasma- scaled-up-by-a-trillion theory? What a jackass! Go ahead - tell us what "most of the hypotheses" of the electric universe theory are, and then how they were falsified - and while you're at it, show how the electric theory that explains the extreme temperature difference between the corona of the sun versus it's massively cooler depths was falsified. And then, tell us what "most of the hypotheses" of the quantum universe theory are, and how they were proven - and while you're at it, send them to the stupid physicists at CERN who are spending billions trying to prove even the simplest of the quantum universe theories. What a bald-faced liar you are! You're just another affirmative action shill with a "Beginner's Guide to Physics" in your lap, typing with one hand and wanking with the other, and the instructions from your handlers to attack any observations of the electric universe theory in action. What a job, eh - destroying the knowledge of the entire human race for your stinking paycheck. You think your employers are going to take care of YOUR family? LOL! You moron sellout hack traitor! Jesus H Christ owned. Seriously fucking owned. Owned Did I mentioned....owned? I don't even care if he comes up with a great response. That was a killer attack. Deserving of karma if you weren't an AC. Modern Earthquake Activity: Thread: UPDATED 10/23/11: Earthquake activity from 1990-2011 charted. Pin for education! Gold and Silver Station: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Best Comedy Videos: Thread: Laugh....DAMNIT!!! If you appreciate these threads I have made, please share the love by giving karma. The first step in enabling yourself to learn anything is to actively throw away all your assumptions. This is a continual process, as most assumptions aren't known to exist until you stumble upon them. |
Joshua James User ID: 2462168 United States 10/01/2011 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That being the case do you think this event may support the idea of electrical interaction between comets and the sun? Quoting: Sol-Magmatard 26 No. It's a matter of momentum transference and given the sun is a large ball of plasma it is inherently variable, the introduction of a small cometary body most likely just triggered a pending event. The electric universe theory has had most of it's hypotheses fail to be proven. Where as the quantum universe has had most of it's proven. That said most of the suppositions for the electric universe are based on fallacious logic. Like hell, tard. You spew out vast lies and then move right along. "Momentum transference" form a speck of a comet? Transferred to "plasma dynamics" across the entire face of the sun to trigger a gigantic CME? LOL! Care to PROVE that MASSIVE increase of energy in your bogus mystical momentum-to-plasma- scaled-up-by-a-trillion theory? What a jackass! Go ahead - tell us what "most of the hypotheses" of the electric universe theory are, and then how they were falsified - and while you're at it, show how the electric theory that explains the extreme temperature difference between the corona of the sun versus it's massively cooler depths was falsified. And then, tell us what "most of the hypotheses" of the quantum universe theory are, and how they were proven - and while you're at it, send them to the stupid physicists at CERN who are spending billions trying to prove even the simplest of the quantum universe theories. What a bald-faced liar you are! You're just another affirmative action shill with a "Beginner's Guide to Physics" in your lap, typing with one hand and wanking with the other, and the instructions from your handlers to attack any observations of the electric universe theory in action. What a job, eh - destroying the knowledge of the entire human race for your stinking paycheck. You think your employers are going to take care of YOUR family? LOL! You moron sellout hack traitor! Jesus H Christ owned. Seriously fucking owned. Owned Did I mentioned....owned? I don't even care if he comes up with a great response. That was a killer attack. Deserving of karma if you weren't an AC. Say whaaaaaat. That was pretty balls out. Good job killer, the most brilliant defense of anything I've seen posted on here. Do you.... wait, do you hear that?..... I think you made him cry bro. |
Sol-Magmatard 26 User ID: 1788072 United States 10/02/2011 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since it appears that some of you want me to defend myself let me say. For those that speak of the electric universe, as they treat it in a religious manner rather then a scientific one, these quotes from Frank Herbert most apply. Unfortunately, some wars are won by the side that is the most fanatical in a religious sense. The victorious leaders harness the holy energy of collective insanity. Enter no conflict against fanatics unless you can defuse them. Oppose a religion with another religion only if your proofs (miracles) are irrefutable or if you can mesh in a way that the fanatics accept you as god-inspired. When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong – faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late. Much that was called religion has carried an unconscious attitude of hostility toward life. All men must see that the teaching of religion by rules and rote is largely a hoax. When law and duty are one, united by religion, you never become fully conscious, fully aware of yourself. You are always a little less than an individual. Religion is the emulation of the adult by the child. Is your religion real when it costs you nothing and carries no risk? Is your religion real when you fatten upon it? Is your religion real when you commit atrocities in its name? Whence comes your downward degeneration from the original revelation? You cannot avoid the interplay of politics within an orthodox religion. This power struggle permeates the training, educating and disciplining of the orthodox community. Lastly, some rules I learned in debate class, there are but three that are truly important. #1 DON’T ARGUE WITH FANATICS! the reasons being A) Fanatics frequently know the basic arguments for both sides, however rarely do they think deeply. You will quickly find that their reasoning goes both strange and filled with assumptive fallacies very soon into the argument. B) Fanatics are so utterly easy to rile and excite; that the consuming desire to argue with them is often overwhelming, if for no other reason then to press your point. This is wasteful and detracts from the purpose of reason. C) Even when Fanatics are provided the proof they demand to dissuade an idea, they will actively ignore the evidence contrary to their views, declaring the heretical or stupid. D) One must realize when and if they argue with a fanatic they have to abandon all hope of influencing there thinking. #2 DON'T ARGUE WITH THE INSANE! the reasons being A) It wastes your time and riles them up. B) They do not operate in manner that accept reality. C) They frequently perceive any differing view as an attack on their person, mind, etc. D) They are close-minded to any other opinion other then their own or those that are complementary to their own. #3 DON'T ARGUE WITH THE STUPID! the reasons being A) They strive to devolve the debate/discussion into something they can have firm footing rather then discuss the issue/topic. B) It can be a condition comparable with fanaticism. C) They will blithely open their mouths and remove all doubt as to their genuine stupidity. D) When gathered together mob mentality can quickly subsume them. E) Unlike the logical argument, stupidity adheres to no rules. formerly Magmatard 26 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2472558 United States 10/02/2011 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since it appears that some of you want me to defend myself let me say. For those that speak of the electric universe, as they treat it in a religious manner rather then a scientific one, these quotes from Frank Herbert most apply. Unfortunately, some wars are won by the side that is the most fanatical in a religious sense. The victorious leaders harness the holy energy of collective insanity. Enter no conflict against fanatics unless you can defuse them. Oppose a religion with another religion only if your proofs (miracles) are irrefutable or if you can mesh in a way that the fanatics accept you as god-inspired. When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong – faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late. Much that was called religion has carried an unconscious attitude of hostility toward life. All men must see that the teaching of religion by rules and rote is largely a hoax. When law and duty are one, united by religion, you never become fully conscious, fully aware of yourself. You are always a little less than an individual. Religion is the emulation of the adult by the child. Is your religion real when it costs you nothing and carries no risk? Is your religion real when you fatten upon it? Is your religion real when you commit atrocities in its name? Whence comes your downward degeneration from the original revelation? You cannot avoid the interplay of politics within an orthodox religion. This power struggle permeates the training, educating and disciplining of the orthodox community. Lastly, some rules I learned in debate class, there are but three that are truly important. #1 DON’T ARGUE WITH FANATICS! the reasons being A) Fanatics frequently know the basic arguments for both sides, however rarely do they think deeply. You will quickly find that their reasoning goes both strange and filled with assumptive fallacies very soon into the argument. B) Fanatics are so utterly easy to rile and excite; that the consuming desire to argue with them is often overwhelming, if for no other reason then to press your point. This is wasteful and detracts from the purpose of reason. C) Even when Fanatics are provided the proof they demand to dissuade an idea, they will actively ignore the evidence contrary to their views, declaring the heretical or stupid. D) One must realize when and if they argue with a fanatic they have to abandon all hope of influencing there thinking. #2 DON'T ARGUE WITH THE INSANE! the reasons being A) It wastes your time and riles them up. B) They do not operate in manner that accept reality. C) They frequently perceive any differing view as an attack on their person, mind, etc. D) They are close-minded to any other opinion other then their own or those that are complementary to their own. #3 DON'T ARGUE WITH THE STUPID! the reasons being A) They strive to devolve the debate/discussion into something they can have firm footing rather then discuss the issue/topic. B) It can be a condition comparable with fanaticism. C) They will blithely open their mouths and remove all doubt as to their genuine stupidity. D) When gathered together mob mentality can quickly subsume them. E) Unlike the logical argument, stupidity adheres to no rules. You call that a rebuttal? You embarrassed yourself. You have also exposed that you have no knowledge to back up your positions. |
Vasile.Lupu User ID: 1473602 Romania 10/02/2011 03:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DOUBLE ERUPTION: On October 1st around 10:17 UT, widely-spaced sunspots 1302 and 1305 erupted in quick succession, revealing a long-distance entanglement which was not obvious before. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) recorded the double blast: video - [link to spaceweather.com] The part of the eruption centered on sunspot 1305 hurled a coronal mass ejection toward Earth. The relatively slow-moving (500 km/s) cloud is expected to reach our planet on Oct. 4th, possibly causing geomagnetic storms when it arrives. spaceweather.com |
dutchies User ID: 1509707 Netherlands 10/02/2011 03:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We did have an M flare right after impact: [link to www.solarham.com] One has to live in the present. Whatever is past is gone beyond recall; whatever is future remains beyond one’s reach, until it becomes present. Remembering the past and giving thought to the future are important, but only to the extent that they help one deal with the present. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 619959 Canada 10/02/2011 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thought this thread should have remained pinned... at least until we see all the data/images... Nasa and soho obviously withholding images/data from us as they always do when something of importance is occuring. They may need to doctor images in the name of national (corporate) security/interest. Besides they wouldn't want to panic the masses if it was serious.....freeways must remain open so elite can make it to safety. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2374951 Canada 10/02/2011 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus H Christ owned. Seriously fucking owned. Owned Quoting: Mojofabulous Did I mentioned....owned? I don't even care if he comes up with a great response. That was a killer attack. Deserving of karma if you weren't an AC. Actually, it looked more like a whinny attack post to me. His rebuttal was basically just insults, and you can't call the 'show use the proof!' one way or another an good attack. It's just a convenient way for people on this site to think they've owned someone. I would say there isn't sufficient evidence for either theory about the sun and interactions with celestial bodies. Sol should really flag his post for abuse, because that's all it was. Notice how Sols post was a careful takedown. The response just being curse-spitting rants. |
Raveninns User ID: 2441112 Canada 10/02/2011 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I woke up and just wanted to check what had happened.... Wasn't that just awesome???? Wonderful event to watch unfold, and for once, no doom to accessorize! I showed my grandson and he was awestruck as well. Thanks OP, great thread! Cheers! Great Spirit, make me ready, for that last sunset, and my Spirit will come to you without shame. |
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