WOW!!! Old Mormon White Horse Prophecy Predicts Bank Failures and American Revolution!!! | |
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Garman906 User ID: 2487538 United States 10/15/2011 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is very, very interesting! A poster on another thread talked about a dream where he/she saw a blue computer screen and the words "White Horse 1" written on it. Quoting: sylvie I got intrigued by the dream and googled "White Horse" and found the so-called White Horse Prophecy by the Mormons' "prophet" Joseph Smith, made in the early 1900s. You can read it in full here: [link to www.fairlds.org] Here's an excerpt: "You will go to the Rocky Mountains and you will be a great and mighty people established there, which I will call the White Horse of peace and safety.” When the Prophet said, “You will see it,” I said, “Where will you be at that time?” He said, “I shall never go there. Your enemies will continue to follow you with persecutions and they will make obnoxious laws against you in Congress to destroy the White Horse, but you will have a friend or two to defend you and throw out the worst parts of the law so they will not hurt you so much. You must continue to petition Congress all the time, but they will treat you like strangers and aliens and they will not give you your rights, but will govern you with strangers and commissioners. You will see the Constitution of the United States almost destroyed. It will hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber." [...] "The White Horse will find the mountains full of minerals and they will become rich (at this time, it must be remembered, the precious metals were not known to exist in either the Rocky Mountains or California). You will see silver piled up in the streets. You will see the gold shoveled up like sand. Gold will be of little value then, even in a mercantile capacity; for the people of the world will have something else to do in seeking for salvation. The time will come when the banks of every nation will fall and only two places will be safe where people can deposit their gold and treasure. This place will be the White Horse and England’s vaults. A terrible revolution will take place in the land of America, such as has never been seen before; for the land will be left without a Supreme Government, and every specie of wickedness will be practiced rampantly in the land. Father will be against son and son against father; mother against daughter and daughter against mother. The most terrible scenes of bloodshed, murder and rape that have ever been imagined or looked upon will take place. People will be taken from the earth and there will be peace and love only in the Rocky Mountains. This will cause many hundreds of thousands of the honest in heart of the world to gather there, not because they would be Saints, but for safety and because they will be so numerous that you will be in danger of famine, but not for want of seed, time and harvest, but because of so many to be fed." Wow -- just wow. Occupy......hell. |
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sylvie (OP) User ID: 2916279 United States 10/15/2011 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some more of the prophecy: "The most terrible scenes of bloodshed, murder and rape that have ever been imagined or looked upon will take place. People will be taken from the earth and there will be peace and love only in the Rocky Mountains. This will cause many hundreds of thousands of the honest in heart of the world to gather there, not because they would be Saints, but for safety and because they will be so numerous that you will be in danger of famine, but not for want of seed, time and harvest, but because of so many to be fed. Many will come with bundles under their arms to escape the calamities for there will be no escape except only by escaping and fleeing to Zion. Those that come to you will try to keep the laws and be one with you for they will see your unity and the greatness of your organization." |
sylvie (OP) User ID: 2916279 United States 10/15/2011 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Turkish Empire of the Crescent will be the first power to be disputed, for freedom must be given for the Gospel to be preached in the Holy Land. The Lord took of the best blood of the nations and planted them on the small islands now called England and Great Britain and gave them power in the nations for a thousand years and their power will continue with them that they may keep the balance of power; and they will keep Russia from sweeping her power over the world. England and France are now bitter enemies but they will be allied together and be united to keep Russia from conquering the world. "The two popes, Greek and Catholic, will eventually come together in their decline and be united. The Protestant Religions do not know how much they are indebted to Henry VIII for throwing off the Pope’s bill and establishing the Protestant faith. He was the only monarch who could do so at that time and he did it because the nation was at his back to sustain him. One of the peculiar features in England is the established Red-coat; a uniform making so remarkable a target to shoot at, and yet they have conquered wherever they have gone. The reason for this will be known to them some day as red is seen in a different color threading through under all history. The lion and the unicorn of England comes from there being so much blood of Israel in the nation." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1423993 Canada 10/15/2011 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But, as has been pointed out in other threads, both Smith and Brigham Young were affiliated with masons, and could easily have been promoting NWO dogma through the so-called 'prophecies' of Smith. Still, good to know what is being planned for the future, no matter if it is called 'prophecy' by the mystics, or 'planned take-over' by the NWO Controllers. |
(:-DeeZe User ID: 1526377 United States 10/15/2011 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "It is important, however, to recognize that the Church of Jesus Christ is a church of order and not of confusion. Therefore, where the Church as a whole is concerned, revelation comes only through established channels, and is accepted only through established procedures. These procedures are fixed and have been established through scripture and revelation. The President of the Church is the only channel by which authoritative revelation may be received for the Church as a whole. This principle is clearly taught in the Doctrine and Covenants. Verses 3 and 5 are particularly important to identifying the channel by which revelation is received for the Church: “...ye receive not the teachings of any that shall come be- fore you ...” and “...there is none other appointed... to receive ... revelations....” It is required that the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles be in agreement that the revelation is true and should be the canon of the Church. The revelation must be communicated to the membership of the Church and accepted by them, in order to be binding upon them. “For all things must be done in order, and by common consent in the church, by the prayer of faith.” _______________________ The Mormons are very similar to the Jehovah's Witnesses in that "revelations" can ONLY come through the leadership thereby eliminating questioning or dissent. Interesting to note that in the bible, the Boreans were commended for asking questions and verifying what they were told was true. (:-DeeZe "The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry" “To live content with small means; to seek elegance rather than luxury, and refinement rather than fashion, to be worthy, not respectable, and wealthy, not rich; to study hard, think quietly, talk gently, act frankly, to listen to stars and birds, to babes and sages, with open heart, to bear all cheerfully, to all bravely await occasions, hurry never. In a word, to let the spiritual unbidden and unconscious grow up through the common. This is to be my symphony.” .........William Henry Channing |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3374313 United States 10/15/2011 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they now call themselves "The Church of Jesus Christ" but they think Jesus is only a man who worked his way to god hood and they also can do the same? Some like JWs think Jesus is the archangel Michael. Why not just come out with it and state who you think Jesus is. All the rest is nonsense. Jesus (not HIS name), Yashua, is Jehovah (not HIS name) YHWH. How can someone be a Jehovah's witness when they don't recognize Him and how ca this be the Church of Jesus Christ when they don't believe He alone is YHWH God? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3038600 United States 10/15/2011 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Post OP, but I have to say something... Personally, I am not willing to compromise my integrity, or my faith in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, by not pointing out the fallacy of the OP's title. As a member of this particular church, I can tell you that although some of us read and ponder these 'prophecies' nobody recognizes them as truth. We ponder them in the same way that one might study Aesop's Fables and try to riddle out the lesson to be found. They are a hobby and nothing else. This is not considered prophetic as it has not been presented through the correct process (described in the link you provided) in addition to being openly condemed by those in authority to do so. As a hobby, fascinating. As a prophecy .... false. Are there lessons to be learned from it? Maybe. Who is too say? If you want to know, pray about it. (Ya'll knew that was coming right?) Other than that, enjoy it for what it is...a story. I have read many, many of these non-legitimate 'prophecies' and am often surprised which ones are mentioned. This is one of the funner (is that a word?) more complete and less cryptic ones. It is very very dooom-ish!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3038600 United States 10/15/2011 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they now call themselves "The Church of Jesus Christ" but they think Jesus is only a man who worked his way to god hood Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3374313 and they also can do the same? Some like JWs think Jesus is the archangel Michael. Why not just come out with it and state who you think Jesus is. All the rest is nonsense. Jesus (not HIS name), Yashua, is Jehovah (not HIS name) YHWH. How can someone be a Jehovah's witness when they don't recognize Him and how ca this be the Church of Jesus Christ when they don't believe He alone is YHWH God? I can't answer for the others, and If you don't like my answer I'm not going to argue it out with you. But for us 'mormons' it's simple. Jesus is our Lord. Period. The end. As for us making it to godhood, yes we do believe this and if we make it there, and can even earn the privelage of creating our own worlds....then we will get to be god, for the world that we create...not this one! Your questions is like asking how can a child, who believes his father is his father, possibly believe that, when he also believes that he can grow up and become a father himself?!? Kind of silly when you look at it that way right? Since we believe that we are children of God. We also believe that we can 'grow up' and progress to become just like him, thus becoming gods ourselves. Like some children grow up to be crimnals, some children commit suicide, some children grow up to become drunks....not all children get to become fathers and mothers. (I am refering to the lack of parenthood from personal choice, not from broken plumbing or other mortal imperfections beyond one's control) Likewise, not all of mankind will become gods, but some of us will make it to that level of progression. You don't have to believe it, my purpose was not to convert anybody. This explanation is simply to help you understand our beliefs. I believe that this mortal life is a similitude of my eternal life. The lessons learned, no matter how earthly have eternal applications once I learn to properly implement them. I am not highly educated and am fairly simple minded in most things, but when I study the scriptures, the Bible being my current favorite, I am often speechless as the Spirit reveals to me the eternal truths and my mind then reinforces them with earthly experiences from my own life. It is an amazing experience. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1301941 United States 10/15/2011 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, Mormons believe that God is Jesus Christ in both this life and in the world to come. We believe we can become Godlike, since all of us are God's children, but God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost will remain over all of us as our Gods in the world to come. Jesus Christ stated, "are ye not all gods?" He was basically referencing the power they had over men and the rest of God's creation, a power that will be added upon for the righteous and taken away from the wicked. Yet, Jesus Christ will forever remain our God. We can never become His equal, but we can become His sons, daughters and servants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3114225 United States 10/15/2011 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "It is important, however, to recognize that the Church of Jesus Christ is a church of order and not of confusion. Therefore, where the Church as a whole is concerned, revelation comes only through established channels, and is accepted only through established procedures. These procedures are fixed and have been established through scripture and revelation. Quoting: (:-DeeZe The President of the Church is the only channel by which authoritative revelation may be received for the Church as a whole. This principle is clearly taught in the Doctrine and Covenants. Verses 3 and 5 are particularly important to identifying the channel by which revelation is received for the Church: “...ye receive not the teachings of any that shall come be- fore you ...” and “...there is none other appointed... to receive ... revelations....” It is required that the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles be in agreement that the revelation is true and should be the canon of the Church. The revelation must be communicated to the membership of the Church and accepted by them, in order to be binding upon them. “For all things must be done in order, and by common consent in the church, by the prayer of faith.” _______________________ The Mormons are very similar to the Jehovah's Witnesses in that "revelations" can ONLY come through the leadership thereby eliminating questioning or dissent. Interesting to note that in the bible, the Boreans were commended for asking questions and verifying what they were told was true. Yeah they are both similar in that they have strayed from the true word of God and follow the dogmas of man. Cursed is he who trusts in man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1371185 United States 10/15/2011 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Post OP, but I have to say something... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3038600 Personally, I am not willing to compromise my integrity, or my faith in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, by not pointing out the fallacy of the OP's title. As a member of this particular church, I can tell you that although some of us read and ponder these 'prophecies' nobody recognizes them as truth. We ponder them in the same way that one might study Aesop's Fables and try to riddle out the lesson to be found. They are a hobby and nothing else. This is not considered prophetic as it has not been presented through the correct process (described in the link you provided) in addition to being openly condemed by those in authority to do so. As a hobby, fascinating. As a prophecy .... false. Are there lessons to be learned from it? Maybe. Who is too say? If you want to know, pray about it. (Ya'll knew that was coming right?) Other than that, enjoy it for what it is...a story. I have read many, many of these non-legitimate 'prophecies' and am often surprised which ones are mentioned. This is one of the funner (is that a word?) more complete and less cryptic ones. It is very very dooom-ish!! Sounds like damage control to me.. In a book that you believe is true, why would it have stories in it that aren't true?.. |
Doomamatrix User ID: 2674567 United States 10/15/2011 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When did the Mormon church get big on prepping? I can remember in the 1970's in CO, a Mormon family we knew was doing a trial run on their preps for about 6 months to see if they really had put by enough. Did it start with this prophecy? Obamacare: Never has so much been taken away from so many for so few. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3265544 United States 10/15/2011 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they now call themselves "The Church of Jesus Christ" but they think Jesus is only a man who worked his way to god hood Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3374313 and they also can do the same? Some like JWs think Jesus is the archangel Michael. Why not just come out with it and state who you think Jesus is. All the rest is nonsense. Jesus (not HIS name), Yashua, is Jehovah (not HIS name) YHWH. How can someone be a Jehovah's witness when they don't recognize Him and how ca this be the Church of Jesus Christ when they don't believe He alone is YHWH God? AMEN OP!!!!! |
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Philadelphian User ID: 1390524 United States 10/15/2011 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they now call themselves "The Church of Jesus Christ" but they think Jesus is only a man who worked his way to god hood Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3374313 and they also can do the same? Some like JWs think Jesus is the archangel Michael. Why not just come out with it and state who you think Jesus is. All the rest is nonsense. Jesus (not HIS name), Yashua, is Jehovah (not HIS name) YHWH. How can someone be a Jehovah's witness when they don't recognize Him and how ca this be the Church of Jesus Christ when they don't believe He alone is YHWH God? Jesus is Jesus, greek was the universal language of the time, and the angel didn't say Joshua, Yashua, but Jesus. He is the true God of all Creation, just remember what Thomas said when he saw Him, " My LORD and my GOD!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3356817 Germany 10/15/2011 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they now call themselves "The Church of Jesus Christ" but they think Jesus is only a man who worked his way to god hood Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3374313 and they also can do the same? Some like JWs think Jesus is the archangel Michael. Why not just come out with it and state who you think Jesus is. All the rest is nonsense. Jesus (not HIS name), Yashua, is Jehovah (not HIS name) YHWH. How can someone be a Jehovah's witness when they don't recognize Him and how ca this be the Church of Jesus Christ when they don't believe He alone is YHWH God? AMEN OP!!!!! It's quite simple. Jesus is our God, the true representative of our race, and what makes us unique. Our High Priest, King and Master Builder, but not THE GOD of Gods, the creator of time, space, matter and all forces of the heavens and the earths. He Who Causes To Become. Jehovah. |
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