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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5769488 United States 12/21/2011 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout Certainly radiation from Fukushima is dangerous, and could very well lead to negative health effects—even across the Pacific. The world needs to have a serious discussion about what role nuclear power should play in a power-hungry post-Fukushima world. But serious, informed, fact-based debate is a difficult enough goal to achieve without having to shout above noise like this. certain..yes..undoutedly..true.. BUT WHEN? HOW MUCH? WELL? |
ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 2691183 United States 12/21/2011 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout I ignored this when it was first posted on here because I was certain this was BS. The time frame wasn't nearly long enough to isolate one factor. The whole thing was such obvious BS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5159872 ^That^ I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
FHL(C) nli User ID: 7476173 China 12/21/2011 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout One wonders why scientific American has not done this(examine the methodology, agenda etc) with the global warming debate, maybe its just easier to take down small lies. Also it does nothing to disprove what fukushima has and still is doing as plume and ongoing radiation debacle. I dont support lies of course, even if they are used to supposedly bring big issues to public attention. |
FHL(C) nli User ID: 7476173 China 12/21/2011 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout Certainly radiation from Fukushima is dangerous, and could very well lead to negative health effects—even across the Pacific. The world needs to have a serious discussion about what role nuclear power should play in a power-hungry post-Fukushima world. But serious, informed, fact-based debate is a difficult enough goal to achieve without having to shout above noise like this. Quoting: GonViral certain..yes..undoutedly..true.. BUT WHEN? HOW MUCH? WELL? agreed |
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Sybaelle User ID: 7466489 United States 12/21/2011 03:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout I ignored this when it was first posted on here because I was certain this was BS. The time frame wasn't nearly long enough to isolate one factor. The whole thing was such obvious BS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5159872 This +1000 The trap I set for you seems to have caught my leg instead. I do not exist. Only you exist. [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] [link to www.ladycrimsonrose.wordpress.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21 |
Zurvana User ID: 6649211 United States 12/21/2011 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout I feel so...used! Last Edited by Mastema on 12/21/2011 03:56 AM “If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. ... We need not wait to see what others do.” -Mahatma Ghandi |
citizenperth User ID: 7435382 Australia 12/21/2011 03:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout low dose studies.. (apparently never existed)? before debunking and feeling unwell in the next few years, and then sorry for missing the point.... please watch the following report... [link to www.fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com] Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 12/21/2011 04:01 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward 12/21/2011 04:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout low dose studies.. (apparently never existed)? Quoting: citizenperth before debunking and feeling unwell in the next few years, and then sorry for missing the point.... please watch the following report... [link to www.fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com] A couple things: 1. This article explained how the study in question manipulated the data to achieve their desired outcome 2. Why are you spamming your blog in this thread. You could have easily posted a link to the youtube video and/or embedded the video 3. If you want to discuss the contents of that youtube video then start your own thread 4. The situation at Fukushima is a serious matter and any and all disinformation pertaining to the matter should be exposed--which is exactly what the author of this Scientific American article is doing |
Atom-Boy User ID: 7481826 Japan 12/21/2011 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout @ Op. take care, this shill from Perth got a big mouth! u can trust insurances, for japan 1 in 4700 for west us 1 afir 25000 get cancer because of 03/11 Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 12/21/2011 04:28 AM G.Y.!B.E. |
Children of the Atom User ID: 6289470 United States 12/21/2011 04:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout I knew this was the route they would take a while back. I was browsing the news a few weeks ago and an article was talking about how cancer rates after Fukushima would be hard to detect because of the already high rate of cancer. Which didn't make sense because the news has also been saying that cancer has gone down. It's just good ol' misdirect. Lead you here, lead you there now you're spinning in circles. |
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Hitokiri User ID: 1540764 United States 12/21/2011 05:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout I ignored this when it was first posted on here because I was certain this was BS. The time frame wasn't nearly long enough to isolate one factor. The whole thing was such obvious BS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5159872 ^That^ Agree. "We learn from history that we learn nothing from history." - George Bernard Shaw |
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Baldrick User ID: 2998918 Australia 12/21/2011 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout The publication of such sloppy, agenda-driven work is a shame. Certainly radiation from Fukushima is dangerous, and could very well lead to negative health effects—even across the Pacific. The world needs to have a serious discussion about what role nuclear power should play in a power-hungry post-Fukushima world. But serious, informed, fact-based debate is a difficult enough goal to achieve without having to shout above noise like this. Quoting: Wonkish " Read the full article at: [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com] Here is the bogus study in its entirety (pdf format): [link to www.radiation.org] Great. Lets apply those parameters to ALL media releases concerning Fukushima, inlcuding .gov, Tepco, et al. Not saying the publication referred to isn't bogus, but plenty of reports coming from the 'authourities' have been debunked too. And are therefore bogus. Pot calling kettle black. Cointelpro. Discernment dammit OP. Blackadder: Baldrick, how did you manage to find a turnip that cost £400 000? Baldrick: Well, I had to haggle. |
FHL(C) nli User ID: 7476173 China 12/21/2011 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout The publication of such sloppy, agenda-driven work is a shame. Certainly radiation from Fukushima is dangerous, and could very well lead to negative health effects—even across the Pacific. The world needs to have a serious discussion about what role nuclear power should play in a power-hungry post-Fukushima world. But serious, informed, fact-based debate is a difficult enough goal to achieve without having to shout above noise like this. Quoting: Wonkish " Read the full article at: [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com] Here is the bogus study in its entirety (pdf format): [link to www.radiation.org] Great. Lets apply those parameters to ALL media releases concerning Fukushima, inlcuding .gov, Tepco, et al. Not saying the publication referred to isn't bogus, but plenty of reports coming from the 'authourities' have been debunked too. And are therefore bogus. Pot calling kettle black. Cointelpro. Discernment dammit OP. Good points Baldrick, but fence sitters are rarely seen as impartial , unbiased and neutral, they are actually excellent scapegoats for all opposing sides, makes you wonder why. |
Anonymous Coward 12/21/2011 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout The publication of such sloppy, agenda-driven work is a shame. Certainly radiation from Fukushima is dangerous, and could very well lead to negative health effects—even across the Pacific. The world needs to have a serious discussion about what role nuclear power should play in a power-hungry post-Fukushima world. But serious, informed, fact-based debate is a difficult enough goal to achieve without having to shout above noise like this. Quoting: Wonkish " Read the full article at: [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com] Here is the bogus study in its entirety (pdf format): [link to www.radiation.org] Great. Lets apply those parameters to ALL media releases concerning Fukushima, inlcuding .gov, Tepco, et al. Not saying the publication referred to isn't bogus, but plenty of reports coming from the 'authourities' have been debunked too. And are therefore bogus. Pot calling kettle black. Cointelpro. Discernment dammit OP. Hey man I am all for trying to find out what is really going on, but there is a lot of disinformation on both sides. The individuals who authored the 14,000 deaths article also authored the article about babies in the PNW dying. Their article about the babies in the PNW was also flawed and its flaws were exposed in this article: [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com] Bullshiters, disinformation artists, and data-forgers need to be exposed because their disinformation does a lot of damage. Janette Sherman M.D. and Joseph Mangano, the authors of both of these studies, seem to have a history of data forging/manipulation. |
Judethz User ID: 5159851 United Kingdom 12/21/2011 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout Scientific American is running an article exposing the flawed methodology used in an International Journal of Health Services article promulgating that 14,000 U.S deaths are associated with the fallout from the Fukushima nuclear reactors. Quoting: Wonkish I disagree because I have seen with my own eyes the irresponsible behaviour of the US government when it comes to fallout. I used to live in the Weed - Mt Shasta area of northern California and one winters day when I was about 10 years old, my father was walking me and my sister to school at the top of the hill. I said to him "Why is the snow green dad." He replied that it was because of the nuclear bomb testing in Nevada. So as far as the "Scientific American" is concerned I reckon that they are towing the party line, because they know which side their bread is buttered on. |
Anonymous Coward 12/21/2011 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout Scientific American is running an article exposing the flawed methodology used in an International Journal of Health Services article promulgating that 14,000 U.S deaths are associated with the fallout from the Fukushima nuclear reactors. Quoting: Wonkish :9teen: I disagree because I have seen with my own eyes the irresponsible behaviour of the US government when it comes to fallout. I used to live in the Weed - Mt Shasta area of northern California and one winters day when I was about 10 years old, my father was walking me and my sister to school at the top of the hill. I said to him "Why is the snow green dad." He replied that it was because of the nuclear bomb testing in Nevada. So as far as the "Scientific American" is concerned I reckon that they are towing the party line, because they know which side their bread is buttered on. What is there to disagree with? Did you read the International Journal of Health Services article at the end of the OP? You honestly believed that the researchers' methodology was not flawed? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7323952 India 12/21/2011 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout One wonders why scientific American has not done this(examine the methodology, agenda etc) with the global warming debate, maybe its just easier to take down small lies. Quoting: FHL(C) nli 7476173 Also it does nothing to disprove what fukushima has and still is doing as plume and ongoing radiation debacle. I dont support lies of course, even if they are used to supposedly bring big issues to public attention. |
FHL(C) nli User ID: 7476173 China 12/21/2011 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout Scientific American is running an article exposing the flawed methodology used in an International Journal of Health Services article promulgating that 14,000 U.S deaths are associated with the fallout from the Fukushima nuclear reactors. Quoting: Wonkish :9teen: I disagree because I have seen with my own eyes the irresponsible behaviour of the US government when it comes to fallout. I used to live in the Weed - Mt Shasta area of northern California and one winters day when I was about 10 years old, my father was walking me and my sister to school at the top of the hill. I said to him "Why is the snow green dad." He replied that it was because of the nuclear bomb testing in Nevada. So as far as the "Scientific American" is concerned I reckon that they are towing the party line, because they know which side their bread is buttered on. What is their to disagree with? Did you read the International Journal of Health Services article at the end of the OP? You honestly believed that the researchers' methodology was not flawed? Hi Sis, Hi Wonkish, these issues are divided and conquer, the jesuits and their ilk perfected it, logic can be used to propagate lies, and scientists especially in this age are virally prone to it, and that includes scientific so called American. So yes lets expose lies, but no lets not let that divided common cause, instead learn how to disagree but remain united in common cause for good and truth, imo. By the way sis , if you saw green snow give us a date and thank you Lord for a confirmation from at least one other non religious party, amen. These monstrous creatures who claim science as bastion, if you examine their lives in many many cases, end up being party lime towers who have private and extreme beliefs, which from a general public, man on the street, family oriented way, would be rejected as perverse and corrosive. |
Judethz User ID: 5159851 United Kingdom 12/21/2011 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout What is their to disagree with? Did you read the International Journal of Health Services article at the end of the OP? You honestly believed that the researchers' methodology was not flawed? Quoting: Wonkish No I haven't read it yet. I'm just honestly assuming that the researchers methodology is flawed. After all if they can lie to us through their back teeth that chemtrails don't exist, why should I trust em on this. And like I said I did see the green snow. So cause and effect. I was doing scientific research (observation) on this matter back in the mid 50s. |
FHL(C) nli User ID: 7476173 China 12/21/2011 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout One wonders why scientific American has not done this(examine the methodology, agenda etc) with the global warming debate, maybe its just easier to take down small lies. Quoting: FHL(C) nli 7476173 Also it does nothing to disprove what fukushima has and still is doing as plume and ongoing radiation debacle. I dont support lies of course, even if they are used to supposedly bring big issues to public attention. Thanks, bless you too, by the way, what is India,s position on Fukushima, and has it affected India in public opinion and in physical actuality? |
Eddjah User ID: 1690282 Canada 12/21/2011 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DEBUNKED: Medical Journal Article: 14,000 U.S. Deaths Tied to Fukushima Reactor Disaster Fallout Here is the bogus study in its entirety (pdf format): [link to www.radiation.org] the death toll is underestimated or overestimateD? Eddjah |