"Chemtrails" in 1979

Except for the pesky fact that the pic is from 2 years before the Stinger was invented...

First hand account

Yet, in the Boston area, I have seen these trails since the early 70's...

Of course, there are more of them now...but they have been there through my entire life.

Another thing, They are not to fight global warming because everytime its a clear night in the winter its much colder yey cloudes come in and keep the heat in and warm the temp. So if anything they are creating the warming to get green taxes !

Jorgie and his nonsensical SPAM to the 'rescue'...

:St Peter:

Now the fuckwit thinks he's a Saint...

[link to ozone-uv.defra.gov.uk]



:Engine Tech and :

Last Edited by George B on 01/29/2012 03:54 PM

NOTE: George Is An Idiot, As There Is No Such Thing As A "New Persistent Contrail"

George B, the patron saint of the chemtards...

Has a nice ring to it...

You do know that water vapor is invisible, right? And that is only becomes visible when it condenses? Particulates in jet exhaust give water vapor something to condense around. If relative humidity up there is high enough, voila! Instant man made cirrus clouds!

So the pic and/or date was faked to get up to think chemtrails have been around forever?

Hey OP - I have some genuine historical chemtrail photos for you. I even sent them to Cliff Carnicom and he thanked me for them.

Lemme see if I can get them loaded to photobucket for you...

Hey OP I have your answer but if you have about 3 hours to kill you can find it yourself along with alot of other little tidbits of interesting info in these 6 sound clips from 1989.

[link to www.youtube.com]

If you don't want to listen to this old man for 3 hours I can understand but I would highly recommend doing so in order to believe what you might read hereafter.

(synopsis)
This is a man recalling a verbal presentation he heard in 1969. The presentation was given to doctors only. The presenter was Dr. Richard Day (The planned parenthood director 1965-1968). The doctors were told to turn off all recording devices and they were asked to please not take notes. The presenter said his intention of the presentation was to let them know of planned changes in medicine and society so that they would be better abled to adapt easily.
(/synopsis)

Although the speaker talked much about the field of medicine he mentioned some other perhaps unrelated yet invaluable information.

Here is the key quote that I've been trying to give some context to (remember it is Dr. Richard Day who said what is being recalled here)

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"There was a mention then of weather. This was another really striking statement. He said, "We can or soon will be able to control the weather." He said, "I'm not merely referring to dropping iodide crystals into the clouds to precipitate rain that's already there, but REAL control." And weather was seen as a weapon of war, a weapon of influencing public policy. It could make rain or withhold rain in order to influence certain areas and bring them under your control. There were two sides to this that were rather striking. He said, "On the one hand you can make drought during the growing season so that nothing will grow, and on the other hand you can make for very heavy rains during harvest season so the fields are too muddy to bring in the harvest, and indeed one might be able to do both." There was no statement how this would be done. It was stated that either it was already possible or very very close to being possible.

Politics. He said that very few people really know how government works. Something to the effect that elected officials are influenced in ways that they don't even realize and they carry out plans that have been made for them and they think that they are authors of the plans. But actually they are manipulated in ways they don't understand.


Somewhere in the presentation he made two statements that I want to insert at this time. I don't remember just where they were made, but they're valid in terms of the general overall view. One statement: "People can carry in their minds and act upon two contradictory ideas at one time, provided that these two contradictory ideas are kept far enough apart." And the other statement is, "You can know pretty well how rational people are going to respond to certain circumstances or to certain information that they encounter. So, to determine the response you want you need only control the kind of data or information that they're presented or the kinds of circumstance that they're in; and being rational people they'll do what you want them to do. They may not fully understand what they're doing or why."

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PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THIS MAN IS RECALLING A PRESENTATION HE HEARD IN 1969.

AND HE'S RECALLING IT IN 1988.

Did you actually read the caption and info under the pic?

I'll help, cuz that's the kinda guy I am...

From the link in the OP:

Author
DoD photo by: EDDIE MCCROSSAN Date Shot: 1 Dec 1979 National Archive# NN33300514

The 2005 date is when it was added to Wiki...

Ok, here they are...

This first one was taken in Feb 1982 at Hesperus Ski area in southern Colorado.

These pictures are on normal Kodak paper, which I scanned on my flatbed scanner.

[link to i294.photobucket.com]

This one is in the same place on the same day:


[link to i294.photobucket.com]

And these two photos were taken in northern New Mexico in spring of 1981:

Navajo Lake:

[link to i294.photobucket.com]

Northern NM:

[link to i294.photobucket.com]

That is because you are incapable of reading and comprehending . . .

Where have you been?. . . I acknowledged that on the 23rd. . . Just look at the first page of posts . . .

"({{Information |Description= |Source=[ [link to www.dodmedia.osd.mil] taken from [ [link to en.wikipedia.org]
07237.jpg en.wikipedia] |Date=30 June 2005 |Author=DoD photo by: EDDIE MCCROSSAN Date Shot)"



"Author
DoD photo by: EDDIE MCCROSSAN Date Shot: 1 Dec 1979 National Archive# NN33300514 30 Jun 2005, uploader was Signaleer at en.wikipedia.org"

You two are busy arguing about the dates on some questionable photo while you completely ignore the authentic historical photos I just posted.

Yes. So explain why they were not over Southern California 15 years ago. Where it doesn't rain for 8 months out of the year because clouds don't fucking form for rain to fall from. you know...that place. The place that used to have cloudless days 8 months out of the year but now every single day has chemtrail caused "cirrus clouds". That place. You know. The place that totally fucks up your entire argument. Explain. You can't.

Don't argue on how they form. Argue on how they are forming over Southern California. Show me a movie from the 70's filmed in the summer that has persistent contrails and I will gladly recant everything I said as well as issue a full blown apology on the front page of GLP.

None of those have spread over the entire sky. They are all very much identifiable as contrails.

The first two photos definitely have.

I am not surprised that you can find several photos of contrails. . . This does not remove the existence of CHEMTRAILs. . . .

Thank you!

Are you suggesting that photo is of chemtrails? Because it is not anywhere. Ear that. Those are just normal everyday clouds.

Well, cirrus clouds don't cause rain. They're too high up. The rain would evaporate before it got to the ground. It's not my fault if you weren't paying attention 15 years ago. As for a movie, AxE-i-DeNt says "Vanishing Point," which was filmed in Nevada in 1971. I haven't seen it myself, but you could try that one.