IT DOES NOT MATTER IF OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII... here's why.

My first smile on this thread... thanks

And he IS an Indonesian Citizen. That's just great.

He would not be a natural born US citizen for sure had he been born anywhere other than US soil since his mother did not meet the criteria to pass on US citizenship status to him at the time of his birth and his father was never a US citizen. I fail to see how this matters if he was in fact born in Hawaii though. Unless being a natural born US citizen means that BOTH parents must be US citizens at the time of your birth. That would make sense. Think about it. If both your parents are US citizens at the time of your birth then they are most likely to have only an allegiance to the US and will more than likely raise you to have only an allegiance to the US. Do you really think that all these anchor babies that are popped out by illegal aliens will have any allegiance to the US? They are citizens by birth but that does not mean that they will be raised in a household where the US' best interest is instilled in them. If there isnt a difference between simply being a US citizen by birth (being popped out on US soil regardless of your parents citizenship status) and being a natural born US citizen (BOTH parents are US citizens at the time of your birth) there should be.

Uh, oh... looks like the party's over:


“At the request of numerous constituents, I merely asked Hawaiian officials to verify the information contained within President Obama’s original birth certificate,” Bennett said in a written statement on Wednesday. “They have complied with the request and I consider the matter closed.”


The previous day, Bennett apologized on a Phoenix radio station for embarrassing Arizona with his conspiracy theory-fueled investigation into the president’s birth certificate. He said he only starting looking into Obama’s birth after being heckled with angry emails from people who didn’t believe the president was truly a natural born citizen of the United States.

[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

What was happening when the constitution was written were two distinct situations...

First you had the founding fathers then you had people born on US soil to two US citizens.

They did not want someone who had no ties to the US to be able to come in and subvert our country from within so they stipulated that the President must be a child of two citizens.

Since the founding fathers were not born in the US they made a stipulation for them only... not future generations.

As the title of the thread states... this isn't about Hawaii.

Yes, that's a Fact....

MINOR v HAPPERSETT, 88 US, 162, (Wall),162..is the SOURCE of the Fact you presented!

Sheesh, can't use that piece as any authority because of the stupied DARPA statements. Now it just looks like woowoo. Argh.

It does not matter because he IS CURRENTLY the President of the United States.

It may come out later (after his second term) that he wasn't eligible but by that point ... it really doesn't matter does it.
He will have already served as President and there is nothing anyone will be able to do about it.

Well for me i do not care where he was born he is still a stupid bastard liberal

Nope, indefinite detention was all Bush's idea.

The President can't pass laws though a majority favors Romneycare I mean Obamacare versus the status quo.

RFID chip has long since been debunked: [link to www.snopes.com]

IF enough people learn the truth there is still a chance... there is always a chance.

Thank you, well said and you are correct.

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnot over yet.Hawaii produced a document showing he was born in Hawaii.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But here's where it
gets good: Evidence has been prod8ced show tat his father was the British Kenyan. Proof pf ineligibility.

You people are chasing ghosts. Give up already. You should be more concerned with the elite who are the REAL policy makers in the USA. Maybe you should open your eyes and notice that your democrat AND republican "elected" leaders are more loyal to corporate money than they are to YOU!

On the detention... it is Obama who says he can arrest and detain someone who may commit a future act... that is the difference. You are not being detained for anything you have done in the past but for something you may do in the future.

Agreed and that is why so many people are trying to find the solution to this problem which has gotten out of hand so completely that instead of living in freedom in the land of the free we are becoming slaves in our own land.

I agree with you. Like him or not, everyone SHOULD be upset that an ineligible person was even able/encouraged to run for President, and especially be elected and serve as President.

I really can't believe how some people don't find this a big deal.

It's demoralizing propaganda for the US as a country to go through eligibility crisis's with a current President. It's part of the plan to make our laws matter not, just like the constitution and so many of our own people shrug their shoulders or laugh at the mockery aimed at themselves.

Thanks for the photos and I love your avatar!

The ruling in the case of Allen v. Arizona Democratic Party:

[link to www.scribd.com]

“...Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark (addressing U. S. Const. amend. XIV) ; Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana(addressing the precise issue). Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett does not hold otherwise.”

Read and silently weep, birfoons.

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Again... this post is not about that. This post is about the fact that he renounced his citizenship. He has indonesian citizenship unless he renounced that... and of course we can't know the truth of the matter because he has hidden his past. The fact that he was a college student in the US as a foreign student should give a clue... yes?

I hope once he gets deported he runs to be the new Slovenian dictator ....

lol

Fucking birther.

You say he renounced his citizenship. You say it is a "fact." If it is a fact then you will PROVE it is a fact with the record. It is also not a fact that he was a college student as a foreign student. Birthers make up shit and then repeat it so much they don't know their head from their ass.

No dipshits.
He was born in HW.
AND his mother was American.
Deal with it.

Obama did NOT renounce his citizenship; another myth.

Again OP, Birthers have tried this and all other alleged "arguments" on courts and failed every time. In only 3 cases Obama had to defend the suit (Berg v. Obama, Keyes v. Bowen, Hollister v. Soetoro). In most other cases the court dismissed the case sua sponte (on its own accord) with no motions filed by Obama – due inanity of legal filing.

Everytime Birthers fail, Obama scores. Hence carry on with it.

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