Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16674316 United States 06/19/2012 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aaahhh and don't forget, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 838419 Vaccines still contain the highly poisonous Thimerosal a Mercury preservative, causing brain damage for the infants... One mercury tooth filling releases more mercury into the body than ten thousand shots. Mercury silver amalgam tooth fillings were the norm up to 1970. Over two Billion people were walking around with those fillings. I had 10 of them from my childhood where I was not taught to brush by my mother who raised me. All that mercury leaking into my body caused no problem over the years. I went on to be an executive and a professional writer. This nonsense about brain damage is just silly. There is no correlation between the miniscule trace of mercury in a shot and any brain damage in anybody. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/19/2012 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I had polio in 1952 and had to learn how to walk again. Science came out with the vaccine for Polio a year later. Before the vaccine, thousands of kids world wide would die every year or be paralyzed to varying degrees. Before the Small Pox vaccine, thousands would die every year of that illness. Before the vaccine the term "polio" encompassed all flaccid paralyses, a syndrome that can 11 different causes. This was so because there sere no means to detect poliovirus prior to 1960. In 1960, right after the vaccines, the definition of "polio" was restricted to flaccid paralysis caused by poliovirus. So all the "magic" of teh vaccine consisted in restricting the definition from 11 diseases to just 1. See the story here: [link to insidevaccines.com] Today all flaccid paralyses - which yould be called "polio" prior to 1960 are on the rise, and their incidence is similar to what was during the 50's. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/19/2012 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aaahhh and don't forget, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 838419 Vaccines still contain the highly poisonous Thimerosal a Mercury preservative, causing brain damage for the infants... One mercury tooth filling releases more mercury into the body than ten thousand shots. The pharmacokinetics of a substance varies greatly depending on the administration path: oral, intravenous or subcutaneos. Vacciens bypass the mucosae and the defense mechanisms it provides. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18218941 United States 06/19/2012 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vaccines are not the problem; there is too much evidence that the MMR shots are incredibly important and beneficial. Neither myself, my brother nor anyone else in our huge family has ever had a reaction or known of someone who had a reaction to the vaccines. Many studies now show that steroid use in males causes autism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4727082 The issue comes with the pollution and medicines in our tap water (used to grow vegetables, water livestock, for human consumption) as well as the RBGH milk we were all fed in the '90's. Do you know anyone with rhumatoid? Lupus? Chronic fatigue syndrome? Fibromalgia? Ms.? Etc...the list goes on...these are all effects from vaccinations... For new mothers...if you have to give your child the mmr, then do not follow the schedule, tell your doctor you wish to spread them out...it will reduce the shock to your infants system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/19/2012 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Autism is directly related to the increase in radiation exposure. Background radiation levels are proportional to the levels of autism in the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16674316 Correlation does not imply causation, additional conditions must be fulfilled. In epidemiology those conditions are the Hill’s criteria. A recent study from 2011 confirms that vaccination fulfils Hill’s criteria as a cause of autism: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism? Source: 2011 - Neural Dynamics Research Group, Department of Ophthalmology and Visual Sciences, University of British Columbia, Canada. “…… The application of the Hill’s criteria to these data indicates that the correlation between Aluminium in vaccines and Autism spectrum disorders may be causal. Because children represent a fraction of the population most at risk for complications following exposure to Al, a more rigorous evaluation of Al adjuvant safety seems warranted.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5319868 United States 06/19/2012 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless they catch polio or the mumps, in which case they just get crippled for life or die. Quoting: Apocalypse Troll Fucking pea-brain, listen: Mumps won't do either; it will not cripple you, it will not kill you. Mumps is like a common cold. You get the mumps, you get over the mumps. So take your fear-mongering bullshit and shove it up your ass. |
CE1 ***** User ID: 738656 United States 06/19/2012 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suspicions have been confirmed for those wary of vaccinating their children. A recent large study corroborates other independent study surveys comparing unvaccinated children to vaccinated children. Quoting: WeAreOne They all show that vaccinated children have two to five times more childhood diseases, illnesses, and allergies than unvaccinated children. Originally, the recent still ongoing study compared unvaccinated children against a German national health survey conducted by KiGGS involving over 17,000 children up to age 19. This currently ongoing survey study was initiated by classical homoeopathist Andreas Bachmair. However, the American connection for Bachmair's study can be found at VaccineInjury.info website that has added a link for parents of vaccinated children to participate in the study. So far this ongoing survey has well over 11,000 respondents, mostly from the U.S.A. Other studies have surveyed smaller groups of families. Nevertheless, the results were similar. Of course, none of these studies were picked up by the MSM (mainstream media). None were funded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or the World Health Organization (WHO) or any national or international health agency or medical profession group ( [link to healthimpactnews.com] They don't dare compare the health of unvaccinated children to vaccinated children objectively and risk disrupting their vaxmania (vaccination mania). The focus for all the studies was mostly on childhood illnesses occurring as the children matured. Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com] Playing GOD with a child's DNA is crossing the line. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6514487 United States 06/19/2012 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am in medical school and I actually take offense to the fact that there are people that refuse to vacinnate their children because they are crazy. I think you should be thrown in jail because I have to treat your children and tell them that there is nothing I can do because mommy and daddy think plants will cure hepatitis. Please sterilize yourself or give your children up for adoption because you are not sane enough to be a parent. |
EvenT6HorizoN User ID: 12833553 United States 06/19/2012 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vaccines are not the problem; there is too much evidence that the MMR shots are incredibly important and beneficial. Neither myself, my brother nor anyone else in our huge family has ever had a reaction or known of someone who had a reaction to the vaccines. Many studies now show that steroid use in males causes autism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4727082 The issue comes with the pollution and medicines in our tap water (used to grow vegetables, water livestock, for human consumption) as well as the RBGH milk we were all fed in the '90's. All you are doing is just listing other bad stuff. Vaccinations are not good. "Oh, I'm not sick, but I should probably inject myself with so I don't get it." Injecting children with these serums? I wonder why children have developmental problems. We bombarde them with illness while they are developing. "I collapsed a lung, screaming at the face of ignorance. I fell victim to the excuse of hatered." - Crater "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire "Some feel the rain, others just get wet" - Bob Marley |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/19/2012 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recent study from 2011 proves that infant mortality rate in the West is higher in countries that push more vaccine doses per child: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Sept 2011 - Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity? "...The US childhood immunization schedule requires 26 vaccine doses for infants aged less than 1 year, the most in the world, yet 33 nations have better IMRs. Using linear regression, the immunization schedules of these 34 nations were examined and a correlation coefficient of 0.70 (p < 0.0001) was found between infant mortality rates and the number of vaccine doses routinely given to infants...." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/19/2012 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is too much evidence that the MMR shots are incredibly important and beneficial. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4727082 No, there is no scientific evidence at all, quite the contrary. The following study found a higher incidence of measles among vaccinated populations in Italy: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Pattern of susceptibility to measles in Italy. Serological Study Group. Pag 952: “…The average annual incidence of measles in 1990–96for the population aged 0–40 years was higher in regions with high coverage (112 cases per 100 000 inhabitants) than in those with low coverage (77 cases per 100 000), and age-specific rates diverged after 4 years of age, higher incidences occurring in regions with higher coverage…” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1149784 United States 06/19/2012 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also never understand how an un-vaccinated child can be a risk to those around them who have been vaccinated. Surly they could be surrounded by ill children and have no fear if vaccinations are to be believed? Quoting: WeAreOne That's the elephant in the room that vaccine proponents never address, likely because it would directly expose their scam. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6514487 United States 06/19/2012 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vaccines are not the problem; there is too much evidence that the MMR shots are incredibly important and beneficial. Neither myself, my brother nor anyone else in our huge family has ever had a reaction or known of someone who had a reaction to the vaccines. Many studies now show that steroid use in males causes autism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4727082 The issue comes with the pollution and medicines in our tap water (used to grow vegetables, water livestock, for human consumption) as well as the RBGH milk we were all fed in the '90's. All you are doing is just listing other bad stuff. Vaccinations are not good. "Oh, I'm not sick, but I should probably inject myself with so I don't get it." Injecting children with these serums? I wonder why children have developmental problems. We bombarde them with illness while they are developing. Hey, idiot. Yeah, you! There is no sample population to get a statistically significant reading that any injections cause autism or developmental problems. Additionally, it is not logical. These disorders are on a fundamental level ie genetics and the way the brain is wired. Injections after birth will not affect whether you have a brain that is wired differently. Have you ever worked with a child with autism or down syndrome? My guess is no, because if you have you would understand that there is no way vaccination would cause these disorders. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/19/2012 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no sample population to get a statistically significant reading that any injections cause autism or developmental problems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6514487 Yes, tehre is, blkithering moron! FUCKING READ the medical literature! [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism? “…… The application of the Hill’s criteria to these data indicates that the correlation between Aluminium in vaccines and Autism spectrum disorders may be causal. ..” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6514487 United States 06/19/2012 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recent study from 2011 proves that infant mortality rate in the West is higher in countries that push more vaccine doses per child: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Sept 2011 - Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity? "...The US childhood immunization schedule requires 26 vaccine doses for infants aged less than 1 year, the most in the world, yet 33 nations have better IMRs. Using linear regression, the immunization schedules of these 34 nations were examined and a correlation coefficient of 0.70 (p < 0.0001) was found between infant mortality rates and the number of vaccine doses routinely given to infants...." Love it when you can quote one study, yet the entire body of medicine backs me up. Additionally, those regions which have no "medical coverage" have no "statistical coverage." So basically what that study says is "Well, in these areas that we do not have a good handle on what is happening to the population on a microlevel, we find that the kids that do come in contact with doctors get less sick." You at least attempt to have a logical argument. Most of these people are just spouting nonsense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16674316 United States 06/19/2012 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today all flaccid paralyses - which yould be called "polio" prior to 1960 are on the rise, and their incidence is similar to what was during the 50's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297793 There is no similarity. The other flaccid paralyses viruses are miniscule in number, but they do exist, mostly in Africa. Polio on the other hand is only present in areas where the vaccination program was curtailed (India and Africa). Had the WHO insisted on continuing vaccination, Polio could have been wiped out. The rate of Polio presently in the world is about one thousandth of what it used to be. That is not in any way "Increasing similar to what it was in the 50's" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16674316 United States 06/19/2012 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless they catch polio or the mumps, in which case they just get crippled for life or die. Quoting: Apocalypse Troll Fucking pea-brain, listen: Mumps won't do either; it will not cripple you, it will not kill you. Mumps is like a common cold. You get the mumps, you get over the mumps. So take your fear-mongering bullshit and shove it up your ass. You are a lying sack of shit. Mumps kills. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6514487 United States 06/19/2012 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recent study from 2011 proves that infant mortality rate in the West is higher in countries that push more vaccine doses per child: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Sept 2011 - Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity? "...The US childhood immunization schedule requires 26 vaccine doses for infants aged less than 1 year, the most in the world, yet 33 nations have better IMRs. Using linear regression, the immunization schedules of these 34 nations were examined and a correlation coefficient of 0.70 (p < 0.0001) was found between infant mortality rates and the number of vaccine doses routinely given to infants...." Love it when you can quote one study, yet the entire body of medicine backs me up. Additionally, those regions which have no "medical coverage" have no "statistical coverage." So basically what that study says is "Well, in these areas that we do not have a good handle on what is happening to the population on a microlevel, we find that the kids that do come in contact with doctors get less sick." You at least attempt to have a logical argument. Most of these people are just spouting nonsense. I take my comment back. Those are all developed countries. However, its a regression study. Correlation is not causation. There is some confounding factor. Good find, though. |
Sandrose User ID: 6006626 France 06/19/2012 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also never understand how an un-vaccinated child can be a risk to those around them who have been vaccinated. Surly they could be surrounded by ill children and have no fear if vaccinations are to be believed? Quoting: WeAreOne You forget the sheep attitude. An unvaccinated is NOT a direct danger to the vaccinated, this however sets a precedents until no-one vaccinates anymore and you get diseases spreading accross population at high economical costs (because of high medical charges and missing labor costs). If you do not get vaccinated, don't go to a doctor when you get sick the society does not want to pay for you. To say that the risks of vaccination are higher than the risks of the diseases is because the disease is controlled and not the other way round. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6514487 United States 06/19/2012 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Smoke courtain. I don' t need the "entire body", just one example study... YOU HAVE NONE! ....you mean all the studies that never got published because they had statistically insignificant findings? There have been hundreds of studies done on this. Very few find any problems with vaccines. Furthermore, these problems can be easily explained by confounding factors. These studies are in no way proof. I could find a dataset showing that infant mortality decreases with increased big mac consumption if I tried hard enough. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16674316 United States 06/19/2012 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recent study from 2011 proves that infant mortality rate in the West is higher in countries that push more vaccine doses per child: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Sept 2011 - Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity? "...The US childhood immunization schedule requires 26 vaccine doses for infants aged less than 1 year, the most in the world, yet 33 nations have better IMRs. Using linear regression, the immunization schedules of these 34 nations were examined and a correlation coefficient of 0.70 (p < 0.0001) was found between infant mortality rates and the number of vaccine doses routinely given to infants...." Amazingly the infant mortality rates in the United States are high as the result of Blacks, Amerinds and Hispanics who do not get their children vaccinated. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297793 Netherlands 06/19/2012 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today all flaccid paralyses - which yould be called "polio" prior to 1960 are on the rise, and their incidence is similar to what was during the 50's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297793 There is no similarity. The other flaccid paralyses viruses are miniscule in number, but they do exist, mostly in Africa. You have no clue as to what Falccid Paralysis: Guillain-Barre syndrome Transverse myelitis Demyelination Encephalomyelitis Trauma Hypotensive brainstem necrosis Lumbar radiculopathy Post drug polyneuromyopathy Botulism Toxicities (orgophosphors) ... nono of them are caued by viruses, and there are 100's of cases in teh USA every yer. This is pre-1960 "polio" asd it's as prevalent today as it was then. No "miracle" vaccine, pal, just a plain change of name! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18223826 United States 06/19/2012 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am in medical school and I actually take offense to the fact that there are people that refuse to vacinnate their children because they are crazy. I think you should be thrown in jail because I have to treat your children and tell them that there is nothing I can do because mommy and daddy think plants will cure hepatitis. Please sterilize yourself or give your children up for adoption because you are not sane enough to be a parent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6514487 hmm...I know someone who was vaccinated for hep...got it too, then had to have a liver transplant...care to explain that to me? |
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IRQ_1 User ID: 1157608 United States 06/19/2012 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1103018 How do we know if it is the vaccines that are causing the illness or the illness being reduced due to the fact the children were looked after better because their parents were more health conscious and hence likely to not vaccinate their kids? Could vacinated + health conscious provide better results? Need a randomised placebo test to prove this. I also never understand how an un-vaccinated child can be a risk to those around them who have been vaccinated. Surly they could be surrounded by ill children and have no fear if vaccinations are to be believed? Pure refined logic. Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
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