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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8863721 United States 07/05/2012 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's do some more math. . . I need a flight crew of four times nine . . . 36 total crew members. . . ground crew can be contracted at different airfields. . . .probably need another 30 or so people to load and clean the aircraft. . . .a few here or there to pick up and deliver industrial grade sulfur compounds. . . .the most common of all substances transported in the world. . . . Quoting: George B I would say I need about 100 people or so for the operation and another 50 for security. . . . Total of 150 people and I can change the rate of climate change. . . .of course I need 1.5 Billion dollars as well. . . . And you have to climb to max altitude over NORTHERN Canada to even get started. LOL Riiiiiight. That will work. LOL Go see a doc. |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 16659212 United States 07/05/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's do some math. . . .the cost of climbing to an extreme altitude is weight . . . so if I load my craft to only 160 tons instead of 250 tons of cargo the burn would far less. . . . And of course if I unload my cargo in flight my weight is even more reduced. . . .airliners usually frown on dumping their passengers and cargo in flight. . . . But I don't have that problem . . Quoting: George B Also, I don't need maximum fuel either. . . .wow!!!! . . . Even more cost effective. . . .how about that????? You're once again demonstrating your acute need for professional help, George. Please focus on, and try to remain within, reality. It costs fuel to carry fuel, but you see cargo and passengers are what pay for it, so leaving that shit on the ground just to be able to climb into the stratosphere to satiate YOUR INSANE NEED to make a worthless point is not practical for anyone in the real world. You live in a fantasyland of your own creation. Again, please seek professional help,soonest. I believe there are meds out there that can help, but they're not OTC. Either you cannot read or you are the one that needs meds . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 2163526 United States 07/05/2012 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's do some more math. . . I need a flight crew of four times nine . . . 36 total crew members. . . ground crew can be contracted at different airfields. . . .probably need another 30 or so people to load and clean the aircraft. . . .a few here or there to pick up and deliver industrial grade sulfur compounds. . . .the most common of all substances transported in the world. . . . Quoting: George B I would say I need about 100 people or so for the operation and another 50 for security. . . . Total of 150 people and I can change the rate of climate change. . . .of course I need 1.5 Billion dollars as well. . . . And you have to climb to max altitude over NORTHERN Canada to even get started. LOL Riiiiiight. That will work. LOL Go see a doc. And commercial airlines don't do that all the time . . . Ever hear of the polar routes to and from Europe???? Last Edited by George B on 07/05/2012 02:09 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 2163526 United States 07/05/2012 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 16657194 United States 07/05/2012 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's do some more math. . . I need a flight crew of four times nine . . . 36 total crew members. . . ground crew can be contracted at different airfields. . . .probably need another 30 or so people to load and clean the aircraft. . . .a few here or there to pick up and deliver industrial grade sulfur compounds. . . .the most common of all substances transported in the world. . . . Quoting: George B I would say I need about 100 people or so for the operation and another 50 for security. . . . Total of 150 people and I can change the rate of climate change. . . .of course I need 1.5 Billion dollars as well. . . . And you have to climb to max altitude over NORTHERN Canada to even get started. LOL Riiiiiight. That will work. LOL Go see a doc. And commercial airlines don't do that all the time . . . Ever hear of the polar routes to and from Europe???? [link to www.answerbag.com] United flies 10,000th polar flight USA TODAY Updated 7/28/2009 4:58 PM "United Airlines Flight 898 from Beijing to Washington Dulles today became the carrier's 10,000th flight to cross the North Pole region. United says the "polar flights" – or flights that fly north over the North Pole region – are often the most direct routes between certain cities in Asia and North America." Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 16657194 United States 07/05/2012 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would have to lower my standards . . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19196589 United States 07/05/2012 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's do some more math. . . I need a flight crew of four times nine . . . 36 total crew members. . . ground crew can be contracted at different airfields. . . .probably need another 30 or so people to load and clean the aircraft. . . .a few here or there to pick up and deliver industrial grade sulfur compounds. . . .the most common of all substances transported in the world. . . . Quoting: George B I would say I need about 100 people or so for the operation and another 50 for security. . . . Total of 150 people and I can change the rate of climate change. . . .of course I need 1.5 Billion dollars as well. . . . And you have to climb to max altitude over NORTHERN Canada to even get started. LOL Riiiiiight. That will work. LOL Go see a doc. And commercial airlines don't do that all the time . . . Ever hear of the polar routes to and from Europe???? [link to www.answerbag.com] United flies 10,000th polar flight USA TODAY Updated 7/28/2009 4:58 PM "United Airlines Flight 898 from Beijing to Washington Dulles today became the carrier's 10,000th flight to cross the North Pole region. United says the "polar flights" – or flights that fly north over the North Pole region – are often the most direct routes between certain cities in Asia and North America." Wow George, you've reached a new low. Not only do you refuse to explain why you have no politicians backing your cause, and no science to back your hypothesis, now you're trying to tell me that 10,000 flights over the pole is a lot. There are probably, oh, I dunno, 20,000,000 commercial airline flights per year and civilian light aircraft and military add up to more than that. Way to go George - epic fail. |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 2583946 United States 07/05/2012 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8863721 And you have to climb to max altitude over NORTHERN Canada to even get started. LOL Riiiiiight. That will work. LOL Go see a doc. And commercial airlines don't do that all the time . . . Ever hear of the polar routes to and from Europe???? [link to www.answerbag.com] United flies 10,000th polar flight USA TODAY Updated 7/28/2009 4:58 PM "United Airlines Flight 898 from Beijing to Washington Dulles today became the carrier's 10,000th flight to cross the North Pole region. United says the "polar flights" – or flights that fly north over the North Pole region – are often the most direct routes between certain cities in Asia and North America." Wow George, you've reached a new low. Not only do you refuse to explain why you have no politicians backing your cause, and no science to back your hypothesis, now you're trying to tell me that 10,000 flights over the pole is a lot. There are probably, oh, I dunno, 20,000,000 commercial airline flights per year and civilian light aircraft and military add up to more than that. Way to go George - epic fail. 1) If you could read you would see the article is about only one airline . . . [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] . . . Please don't talk about fail until you exceed a 5th grade reading level . . . 2) Politics has nothing to do with the concepts presented here . . . However, The President's Science Czar has discussed the pros and cons of similar actions like (placing reflective particles in earth's orbit) . . . 3) Everything presented is found in geoengineering research papers, aerospace sources and is cited appropriately . . [link to climate.envsci.rutgers.edu] So I don't know what you are talking about . . . All you are is making yourself look ridiculous . . . Last Edited by George B on 07/06/2012 08:34 AM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1466737 United States 07/06/2012 07:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1478093 United States 07/06/2012 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: George B And commercial airlines don't do that all the time . . . Ever hear of the polar routes to and from Europe???? [link to www.answerbag.com] United flies 10,000th polar flight USA TODAY Updated 7/28/2009 4:58 PM "United Airlines Flight 898 from Beijing to Washington Dulles today became the carrier's 10,000th flight to cross the North Pole region. United says the "polar flights" – or flights that fly north over the North Pole region – are often the most direct routes between certain cities in Asia and North America." Wow George, you've reached a new low. Not only do you refuse to explain why you have no politicians backing your cause, and no science to back your hypothesis, now you're trying to tell me that 10,000 flights over the pole is a lot. There are probably, oh, I dunno, 20,000,000 commercial airline flights per year and civilian light aircraft and military add up to more than that. Way to go George - epic fail. 1) If you could read you would see the article is about only one airline . . . [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] . . . Please don't talk about fail until you exceed a 5th grade reading level . . . 2) Politics has nothing to do with the concepts presented here . . . However, The President's Science Czar has discussed the pros and cons of similar actions like (placing reflective particles in earth's orbit) . . . 3) Everything presented is found in geoengineering research papers, aerospace sources and is cited appropriately . . [link to climate.envsci.rutgers.edu] So I don't know what you are talking about . . . All you are is making yourself look ridiculous . . . [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by George B on 07/26/2012 11:29 AM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1472857 United States 07/06/2012 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's possible that geoengineering is causing the planet to be visible from a distance in a way that it hasn't been before. So what I am saying is that we may be easier to spot in space by ETs. :) Quoting: WindyMind Interesting concept. . . And possible. . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1472857 United States 07/06/2012 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to m.youtube.com] Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1472857 United States 07/06/2012 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If advanced spacefaring aliens exploit resources like humans we'd better hope they don't find us anytime soon Stephen Hawking's Universe Fear The Aliens part 1 of 10 [link to www.yourdiscovery.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
WindyMind User ID: 7244814 United States 07/06/2012 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Onboard spaceship conversation translated: Oh (excited) looky looky there is a planet over there. I haven't seen it before have you? No, me neither. Redirecting fleet. Why didn't we see that before? I dunno but shit howdy it is visible now. Fly like the wind, fly fly fly Over there, over there, get the planet over there. :) Anything is possible. |
EMPerror User ID: 8804293 Lithuania 07/06/2012 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do not worry about aliens we are shining brightly with a whole spectrum of civization induced signals. High power radars, lights at dark side of Earth. Advanced ones can spot as easily. Geoengineering may add something more, but hardly something unexpected. Geoengineering is not that much advanced. |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 11175021 United States 07/06/2012 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do not worry about aliens we are shining brightly with a whole spectrum of civization induced signals. High power radars, lights at dark side of Earth. Advanced ones can spot as easily. Geoengineering may add something more, but hardly something unexpected. Geoengineering is not that much advanced. Quoting: EMPerror Excellent point . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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Gibs User ID: 9572395 United States 07/06/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could be but if you are in an area that has mountains and go on for long slow descents the chemplanes will folow the terrain at a set altitude where as normal air traffic never does= 2+2=4 in my book, just a casual observation of looking up.;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19263996 United States 07/06/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: George B [link to www.answerbag.com] United flies 10,000th polar flight USA TODAY Updated 7/28/2009 4:58 PM "United Airlines Flight 898 from Beijing to Washington Dulles today became the carrier's 10,000th flight to cross the North Pole region. United says the "polar flights" – or flights that fly north over the North Pole region – are often the most direct routes between certain cities in Asia and North America." Wow George, you've reached a new low. Not only do you refuse to explain why you have no politicians backing your cause, and no science to back your hypothesis, now you're trying to tell me that 10,000 flights over the pole is a lot. There are probably, oh, I dunno, 20,000,000 commercial airline flights per year and civilian light aircraft and military add up to more than that. Way to go George - epic fail. 1) If you could read you would see the article is about only one airline . . . [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] . . . Please don't talk about fail until you exceed a 5th grade reading level . . . 2) Politics has nothing to do with the concepts presented here . . . However, The President's Science Czar has discussed the pros and cons of similar actions like (placing reflective particles in earth's orbit) . . . 3) Everything presented is found in geoengineering research papers, aerospace sources and is cited appropriately . . [link to climate.envsci.rutgers.edu] So I don't know what you are talking about . . . All you are is making yourself look ridiculous . . . [link to www.youtube.com] Jesus Christ. You had to go to northern Canada and now you're in outer space. Get a grip, man. |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 11175021 United States 07/06/2012 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19196589 Wow George, you've reached a new low. Not only do you refuse to explain why you have no politicians backing your cause, and no science to back your hypothesis, now you're trying to tell me that 10,000 flights over the pole is a lot. There are probably, oh, I dunno, 20,000,000 commercial airline flights per year and civilian light aircraft and military add up to more than that. Way to go George - epic fail. 1) If you could read you would see the article is about only one airline . . . [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] . . . Please don't talk about fail until you exceed a 5th grade reading level . . . 2) Politics has nothing to do with the concepts presented here . . . However, The President's Science Czar has discussed the pros and cons of similar actions like (placing reflective particles in earth's orbit) . . . 3) Everything presented is found in geoengineering research papers, aerospace sources and is cited appropriately . . [link to climate.envsci.rutgers.edu] So I don't know what you are talking about . . . All you are is making yourself look ridiculous . . . [link to www.youtube.com] Jesus Christ. You had to go to northern Canada and now you're in outer space. Get a grip, man. No imigination . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 11175021 United States 07/06/2012 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could be but if you are in an area that has mountains and go on for long slow descents the chemplanes will folow the terrain at a set altitude where as normal air traffic never does= 2+2=4 in my book, just a casual observation of looking up.;) Quoting: Gibs 9572395 Not necessarly . . . The idea would be to stay above the tropopause . . . In at least the lowest level of the stratosphere . . . It may vary a bit with major changes in terrain but probably not much . . . . . . See Post below. . . It does change during seasonal changes . . . Lower in the winter . . . Higher in the summer. Last Edited by George B on 07/07/2012 07:43 AM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1490858 United States 07/07/2012 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :C - Atmosphere: Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1471216 United States 07/07/2012 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: George B 1) If you could read you would see the article is about only one airline . . . [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] . . . Please don't talk about fail until you exceed a 5th grade reading level . . . 2) Politics has nothing to do with the concepts presented here . . . However, The President's Science Czar has discussed the pros and cons of similar actions like (placing reflective particles in earth's orbit) . . . 3) Everything presented is found in geoengineering research papers, aerospace sources and is cited appropriately . . [link to climate.envsci.rutgers.edu] So I don't know what you are talking about . . . All you are is making yourself look ridiculous . . . [link to www.youtube.com] Jesus Christ. You had to go to northern Canada and now you're in outer space. Get a grip, man. No imigination . . . You really don't get it do you . . . Agent 96 . . . The Science Czar is talking about a project needing far more technology, effort, tonnage and cost than the simple and elegant solution presented using a handful of aircraft flying only 290 out of 365 days. . . . He is proposing to use an atomic bomb while the researched geoengineering paper (which is cited several times in this thread) is suggesting we only need to use a cherry bomb . . . Which is just a big firecracker. . . . Last Edited by George B on 07/07/2012 08:44 AM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1471216 United States 07/07/2012 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Based on the same research paper [link to climate.envsci.rutgers.edu] the 15 KC-135s could do the same mission. . . .they can carry and unload 91 tons each flight. . . KC-135 STRATOTANKER [link to www.af.mil] General Characteristics Primary Function: Aerial refueling and airlift Prime Contractor: The Boeing Company Power Plant: CFM International CFM-56 turbofan engines Thrust: 21,634 pounds each engine Wingspan: 130 feet, 10 inches (39.88 meters) Length: 136 feet, 3 inches (41.53 meters) Height: 41 feet, 8 inches (12.7 meters) Speed: 530 miles per hour at 30,000 feet (9,144 meters) Ceiling: 50,000 feet (15,240 meters) Range: 1,500 miles (2,419 kilometers) with 150,000 pounds (68,039 kilograms) of transfer fuel; ferry mission, up to 11,015 miles (17,766 kilometers) Maximum Takeoff Weight: 322,500 pounds (146,285 kilograms) Maximum Transfer Fuel Load: 200,000 pounds (90,719 kilograms) Maximum Cargo Capability: 83,000 pounds (37,648 kilograms), 37 passengers Pallet Positions: 6 Crew: Three: pilot, co-pilot and boom operator. Some KC-135 missions require the addition of a navigator. The Air Force has a limited number of navigator suites that can be installed for unique missions. Aeromedical Evacuation Crew: A basic crew of five (two flight nurses and three medical technicians) is added for aeromedical evacuation missions. Medical crew may be altered as required by the needs of patients. Unit Cost: $39.6 million (fiscal 98 constant dollars) Date Deployed: August 1956 Inventory: Active duty, 167; Air National Guard, 180; Air Force Reserve, 67 Last Edited by George B on 07/07/2012 08:18 AM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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