i missed church a few times and this is what happens when i go back

track that succa's # and put the fear of Jesus in him.

Show up drunk and disrupt the service. That'll teach 'em to fuck with you.

lol it wasnt an anonymous text.

Put dead animals outside his doorstep

When you didn't go to church, did you forget about God? or have you become more spiritually enlightened?

I personally rarely go to church but am a firm and strong believer in God.

Most religions these days are run by crooks and thieves, you do not need to go to a church to have be loved by God.


What you do is between you and God - he knows your heart. No man, just God. Your relationship is with God, not man.




Having said all of that, church is not a 'bad' thing but I firmly believe it is not something we explicitly need in our walk through this world - sometimes it is nice to have the comfort of like minded people when sorrows come.

May the creator guide you to your answer.

You don't need our opinions on where God wants you. Only you and God know where you need to be. We are just imperfect humans like the people at your church.

Follow your own intuition and don't be led by the nose by us or your church family.

Ask God.

Asking us to judge your church family is like asking us to sin, because we don't know anything about them or you really. It would be hearsay and judgment isn't our job.

You hold the answers.

Do what you feel is best for you and forget about the rest.

You can't tell anyone what to do spiritually....in fact if someone tries to put the guilt trip on you, simply laugh it off and do what you know inside is right. Take the high road in everything you do and you'll live with no regrets. The hard one for me is to just let it be and forgive those that try to control my life.

Thread: Evidence of Jesus, Heaven, and Hell, as described in the Bible.

What does church have to do with being a Christian?

Harrasment? threat? seems that way. Seems like a threat

Well, I would give an honest credibility evaluation of the person that claims to have had the vision, then I would decide based on that if it was true or not.

I would also pray about it and ask the Father Himself if this vision was from Him or not.

Tell them thanks for sharing the vision, and that you've prayed and decided you're going to choose God, and therefore will no longer attend their church services.

i just dont want to start going for the wrong reasons. i go because i want to and if i dont want to i dont. but i always know i will go.i think they might have the notion that if im not going to church im doing bad things but they dont know me well enough to make that assumption.

"good luck" is not an indication that you shouldn't go back to church. It's also not an indication that you're closer to God. No such thing as "good luck".

No, you were spot on... Be your own 'church' by looking within. Organized religion encourages conformity, compliance, group think, and seeking external salvation from deities that are often portrayed in a controlling & judgmental light to 'followers'. This is counterproductive to your own spiritual advancement. I say follow your initial instincts. Distance yourself from the stranglehold of organized religion and trust your intuition. You will advance yourself so much more by seeking guidance from within. As more time goes by you will come to fully understand how organized religion is holding so many individuals back.

What kind of church is it?

God nor Jesus said you had to attend a house of worship. The house is much bigger. It's called the world. Get outside the stained glass windows and experience life wholly. Not with those that demand a special little group that looks down their noses upon everyone else. Good for you if you leave the church. Experience real life and practice goodwill with everyone. Not the select few.

^^^THIS RIGHT HERE^^^

Also, you can experience the Father without them. Keep seeking Him and His truth!

your right, but before i was saved i was a magnet for bad luck and i was really negative. but i let Jesus into my heart and my life has changed. i completely believe Jesus is the reason.

find a new church..actually find a new religion..actually, just realize you don't need the outdated concept of religion.

you'll be much happier for it & who'd want to live in a fantasy land anyways.

Yes, He is the reason for all good things.

your story is classic, your life was shit, you went to church & life got better. there are plenty other ways to do this without all the bollocks.

eat healthy, exercise, take up a hobby that means you get to spend time with other humans who are passionate about said hobby. dont take drugs & binge drink.

get out into nature, spend time with your family.

dont be a dick.


i dont have 'Jesus' yet im really happy, healthy, fufulled, passionate about various things.

how do you explain that?

Probably a message from the priest.....
He was missing the extra kiddy porn money you weren't paying up. How could you be so thoughtless ?

i think maube they have the wrong idea as to why i go to church in the first place. i asked Jesus into my heart without the help of anyone long before i started going to church. i went because with so much darkness in the world i wanted to intentionally take time to worship in church and project light on to the world in Jesus name. i dont go out of guilt and i am happy when im not being instilled fear, it was just a girl that goes to the church not any of the leaders. i still want to keep going.

OP, I won't give you direct advice... you have to make these decisions yourself. However, I will share my story with you, which perhaps might help.

My father was a Pentecostal preacher, as was my uncle (founder of a prominent Apostolic preachers' organization), and my brother-in-law. I was a dedicated and full believer in the churches I attended, and a regular member.

But now, I do not attend 'a church'. I have found all of them to be involved in group-think, and very 'cult' like in the modern sense of the word. The 'spiritual' folk always have their dreams and visions, many of which contradict those of other members. These types are convinced they 'hear God' about other people and feel it is their responsibility to 'shepherd the weaker believers'. Most of these kind of churches have 'guru' pastors... people who are looked up to as being spiritually superior or ahead of 'the flock'. In every case I have found these men to be liars, and hypocrites (from the Greek word meaning 'actor'). These places were dens of manipulation, group-think and ostracizing.

At a low level, these establishments give 'the flock' something to believe in, confidence that they're on the right path... which seems to be what most sheep want. In exchange, the sheep think, do, say and behave in the way they're commanded.

I've decided to stop being a sheep, and start having a mind of my own.

Christians laud the figure of 'the lamb' and 'the shepherd', but never seem to realize that the reason why the shepherd keeps the sheep is so they can be slaughtered mentally, financially or some other way. What farmer would spend his time keeping sheep, getting them fat, building their confidence in him, unless it were to harvest them? That's what shepherds do, and in order to do this, they must be actors.

i cant explain that. but before i was saved i would deny Christ and say i was agnostic. maybe theres a God maybe not nothing about Jesus being the way. i used to get sleep paralysis at least 6 times a year and it sucked, one night i just had it and prayed for jesus to enter my heart and it is my personal testimony that i no longer get attacked like that at night, theres nothing i can show you to prove this but i have my word its been a year since that has happened at all:)

i thought it would be possible to attend church just to worship and not get too involved with people on such a personal level

your funny

I am very spiritual I pray before I eat and I thank God for everything I have, I try to do the right thing and I dont go to church, I dont believe in Churches, I am not saying Churches are wrong they just arent what I need in my life. I dont feel I have to go to church to talk to God

non denominational chrsitian