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WORLD at WAR, Official 2012 Thread (TO BE CONTINUED) Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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Egypt: President grants special powers to Minister of Defense, authorizes mobilization of military, necessary to justify participation in Gaza/Israel conflict to Egyptians.

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Egypt: President grants special powers to Minister of Defense, authorizes mobilization of military, necessary to justify participation in Gaza/Israel conflict to Egyptians.

[link to www1.youm7.com]

(In Arabic, Google translate is your friend.)


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 Quoting: MIL MAN


Holy moley...

Two thoughts (or possibly hopes)...

Mobilization does not mean involvement (particularly when you translate something - I find important words like "if" get lost in translation...)

Israel has faced a Multi-front war before....and the Arabs always manage to shoot themselves in the foot (1967 is prime example)

Ps - looks like Hamas Harry is still alive...Like a coach roach he will survive...
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Egypt: President grants special powers to Minister of Defense, authorizes mobilization of military, necessary to justify participation in Gaza/Israel conflict to Egyptians.

[link to www1.youm7.com]

(In Arabic, Google translate is your friend.)


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 Quoting: MIL MAN


Holy moley...

Two thoughts (or possibly hopes)...

Mobilization does not mean involvement (particularly when you translate something - I find important words like "if" get lost in translation...)

Israel has faced a Multi-front war before....and the Arabs always manage to shoot themselves in the foot (1967 is prime example)

Ps - looks like Hamas Harry is still alive...Like a coach roach he will survive...
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Dayum DarbyDoom, if that is you in the avatar, I am currently ISO a girlfriend-for-a-week.flower
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Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman conferred urgently Sunday night, Nov. 18 – Day 5 of the Gaza offensive – on how to respond to US President Barack Obama’s insistent demand that they delay a major IDF ground operation in the Gaza Strip.

Hamas turned down all the truce proposals on the table, leaving Israel with three options:

1. To delay the ground action until Wednesday although it was poised to go forward Sunday night - even though the US president may be expected to stand by his objections then too;

2. To go ahead and launch the ground stage of the military offensive over those objections; or

3. To conduct a series of ground sorties inside the Gaza Strip to test the ground there without delay.

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Thread: Sinai terrorists fire RPG missile at border fence with Israel
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Israel gives hamas 36-hour ultimatum before it steps up offensive - IDF


Israel has warned Hamas that it will step up its offensive in the Gaza Strip in 36 hours if they do not cease rocket fire and arms smuggling. Israeli Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz told IDF radio that the time left before Israel escalates its attacks can be measured in “hours, not days.”

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Israel gives hamas 36-hour ultimatum before it steps up offensive - IDF


Israel has warned Hamas that it will step up its offensive in the Gaza Strip in 36 hours if they do not cease rocket fire and arms smuggling. Israeli Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz told IDF radio that the time left before Israel escalates its attacks can be measured in “hours, not days.”

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 Quoting: dettro99 9732769


too long in my opinion, should've given them one hour at the most. I would be hesitant to put troops in though, the strategic bombing seems to be doing the job right now I'd say keep that up just escalate the rate of bombing.
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Like I said in a previous post. I think we'll still see the air raids and strategic bombing without outside involvement...until Israel begins the ground op. When the IDF goes in full, I think that's when you'll see things escalate to warp speed with Egypt, Iran and Syria. They are just waiting for the IDF to get bogged down
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Like I said in a previous post. I think we'll still see the air raids and strategic bombing without outside involvement...until Israel begins the ground op. When the IDF goes in full, I think that's when you'll see things escalate to warp speed with Egypt, Iran and Syria. They are just waiting for the IDF to get bogged down
 Quoting: BioReaper


you're the second person I've heard that from, so you think it's a setup to get the IDF in there on the ground or it'll just escalate because of arab outcry if they go in?
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Like I said in a previous post. I think we'll still see the air raids and strategic bombing without outside involvement...until Israel begins the ground op. When the IDF goes in full, I think that's when you'll see things escalate to warp speed with Egypt, Iran and Syria. They are just waiting for the IDF to get bogged down
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you're the second person I've heard that from, so you think it's a setup to get the IDF in there on the ground or it'll just escalate because of arab outcry if they go in?
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I think it's a ploy to get Israel fully committed to distract them while Iran crosses the nuclear finish line. World outcry and bad pr for Israel while Iran gets the bomb. Win Win for Tehran.
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Like I said in a previous post. I think we'll still see the air raids and strategic bombing without outside involvement...until Israel begins the ground op. When the IDF goes in full, I think that's when you'll see things escalate to warp speed with Egypt, Iran and Syria. They are just waiting for the IDF to get bogged down
 Quoting: BioReaper


you're the second person I've heard that from, so you think it's a setup to get the IDF in there on the ground or it'll just escalate because of arab outcry if they go in?
 Quoting: godzilla85


I think it's a ploy to get Israel fully committed to distract them while Iran crosses the nuclear finish line. World outcry and bad pr for Israel while Iran gets the bomb. Win Win for Tehran.
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And of course this. nuke Would be the ultimate win for Iran.
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Like I said in a previous post. I think we'll still see the air raids and strategic bombing without outside involvement...until Israel begins the ground op. When the IDF goes in full, I think that's when you'll see things escalate to warp speed with Egypt, Iran and Syria. They are just waiting for the IDF to get bogged down
 Quoting: BioReaper


you're the second person I've heard that from, so you think it's a setup to get the IDF in there on the ground or it'll just escalate because of arab outcry if they go in?
 Quoting: godzilla85


I think it's a ploy to get Israel fully committed to distract them while Iran crosses the nuclear finish line. World outcry and bad pr for Israel while Iran gets the bomb. Win Win for Tehran.
 Quoting: BioReaper


And of course this. nuke Would be the ultimate win for Iran.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Iran/Syria (Shia) & Egypt MB/Qatar are enemies....

But these folks invented the phrase "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"..

AND...They all believe in a Moslem apocalypse in which all Moslems come together... Sheik Hosein Imran (Sufi) has some YouTube videos on the subject (he's one of the koolaid drinkers in the Islamic Armageddon movement)....

Looks like Gerry was right about Anonymous getting into trouble if they pushed it too far...Most of the anonymous sites I follow haven't tweeted in a while...

All of their pastebin files are down except for public information - (donor lists for non-profits which are public information...)

I started following Anonymous after the Troy Davis murder...
They were mainly concerned with free speech, death penalty, environmental issues (the classic progressive menu)...They are also anti-militarism...But that's standard leftist fare...

I'll admit - They got awfully worked up about Gaza very quickly....

If they were used by foreign actors...they will pay a high price...prison is no place for a nerdy pinko...
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Thread: Lebanese army dismantles two rockets directed at Israel
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Iranian arms ship carries fresh, improved Fajar supplies for Gaza

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Iranian arms ship carries fresh, improved Fajar supplies for Gaza

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Hope they 86 the sucker.
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unconfirmed: shots fired at IDF soldiers in Golan Heights

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When one terror group succeeds at getting in the lime light, other wish to do their part, thus, no surprise, but someone set up some missiles to go off in Israel. Good thing the Lebanese Army is not outright wholly Hezbollah, as they stopped this first set of missiles. Expect more to follow, but this has the signature of a Palestinian terror group verses HEzbollah. Hezbollah would make a bigger statement.

The Syrian side of the border keeps testing Israeli nerves with more bullets flying. THis is a new norm, sadly enough.

Sounds like DEBKA is trying to get a boat bombed by naming the ship and what is contained in it. Seems to indicate that the IDF is not able or willing to stop the damn thing. Or DEBKA is just wrong.

More missiles flying from Gaza. The plan of Hamas is to try to outlast Israel as Hezbollah did in 2006. Israel is not willing to agree to the same model. Thus, ground offensive is likely.



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When one terror group succeeds at getting in the lime light, other wish to do their part, thus, no surprise, but someone set up some missiles to go off in Israel. Good thing the Lebanese Army is not outright wholly Hezbollah, as they stopped this first set of missiles. Expect more to follow, but this has the signature of a Palestinian terror group verses HEzbollah. Hezbollah would make a bigger statement.

The Syrian side of the border keeps testing Israeli nerves with more bullets flying. THis is a new norm, sadly enough.

Sounds like DEBKA is trying to get a boat bombed by naming the ship and what is contained in it. Seems to indicate that the IDF is not able or willing to stop the damn thing. Or DEBKA is just wrong.

More missiles flying from Gaza. The plan of Hamas is to try to outlast Israel as Hezbollah did in 2006. Israel is not willing to agree to the same model. Thus, ground offensive is likely.



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yes -- the laf couldn't dismantle hezbo missiles without touching off a civil war
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Updates
Rocket explodes in Shaar Hanegev; damage reported
(17:51 , 11.19.12)

63-year-old man injured by interception rocket
(17:47 , 11.19.12)

Rocket explodes in an open area in Hof Ashkelon
(17:20 , 11.19.12)

2 rockets hit Bnei Shimon; none injured
(17:18 , 11.19.12)

2 rockets fired on Beersheba intercepted
(17:16 , 11.19.12)

Stray fire at IDF in northern border; none injured
(17:11 , 11.19.12)

Mortar shell hit near Eshkol; no siren sounded
(17:09 , 11.19.12)

IAF fired at refugee camp in the strip
(17:06 , 11.19.12)

Rocket exploded in open area near Sderot; none injured
(17:03 , 11.19.12)

Lebanon: Grad rockets targeting Israel were found
(17:01 , 11.19.12)
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Vast Majority of Israelis Approve of Operation, Poll Shows
A poll conducted on behalf of a political education group shows that the vast majority of Israelis support Operation Pillar of Defense.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
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Egyptian TV denies army reserve call-up


State TV in Cairo interrupted its broadcasts Monday to deny the Egyptian army was calling up reserves. DEBKAfile: The Palestinian Jihad Islami planted these rumors on orders from its masters in Tehran to intensify the mayhem around the Gaza crisis and embarrass the Morsi government.
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Israeli minister: Gaza ground operation decision very soon
DEBKAfile November 19, 2012, 6:00 PM (GMT+02:00)
The senior Likud minister Limor Livnot said Monday that the decision about an IDF incursion into the Gaza Strip would not take long – no more than 24 hours.

Earlier, IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz Monday briefed commanders of the units poised at jumping-off points for orders to enter the Gaza Strip after he me the thousands of reservist troops gathered there Sunday. Speaking to reporters Monday, a source close to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said that if diplomacy fails to achieve an agreed ceasefire, Israel will have no option but to send troops into the Gaza Strip.
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Updates
Rocket explodes in Shaar Hanegev; damage reported
(17:51 , 11.19.12)

63-year-old man injured by interception rocket
(17:47 , 11.19.12)

Rocket explodes in an open area in Hof Ashkelon
(17:20 , 11.19.12)

2 rockets hit Bnei Shimon; none injured
(17:18 , 11.19.12)

2 rockets fired on Beersheba intercepted
(17:16 , 11.19.12)

Stray fire at IDF in northern border; none injured
(17:11 , 11.19.12)

Mortar shell hit near Eshkol; no siren sounded
(17:09 , 11.19.12)

IAF fired at refugee camp in the strip
(17:06 , 11.19.12)

Rocket exploded in open area near Sderot; none injured
(17:03 , 11.19.12)

Lebanon: Grad rockets targeting Israel were found
(17:01 , 11.19.12)
 Quoting: MIL MAN


ops
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IDF planes on Monday targeted and eliminated another four senior Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

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IDF planes on Monday targeted and eliminated another four senior Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

:clap hands:
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I noticed that Islamic Jihad is a party to the truce talks in Egypt....

That led me to ask, what the hell is Islamic Jihad? if you also had the question, here's some background - (excerpted from Wikipedia)

In 1979, after being inspired by the Iranian Revolution, Fathi Shaqaqi and Abd al-Aziz Awda founded the group to fight for the sovereignty of Palestine. Shaqaqi and Awda conducted operations out of Egypt until 1981, then continued its work in Gaza until it was exiled to Lebanon in 1987. While in Lebanon, the group was able to receive support from Hezbollah and ultimately developed a close relationship with the Lebanese organization. In 1989, the PIJ moved to Damascus, where it had remained until July 2012, when it relocated its headquarters to Iran.

The group is has offices in Damascus, Beirut, Tehran and Khartoum. It's financial backing is believed to come from Syria and Iran... The PIJ has approximately 50 members as well as recruiting chemical engineers and volunteers.

In other words, looks like Egypt invited Iran to take part in the truce talks...NOT GOOD
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I noticed that Islamic Jihad is a party to the truce talks in Egypt....

That led me to ask, what the hell is Islamic Jihad? if you also had the question, here's some background - (excerpted from Wikipedia)

In 1979, after being inspired by the Iranian Revolution, Fathi Shaqaqi and Abd al-Aziz Awda founded the group to fight for the sovereignty of Palestine. Shaqaqi and Awda conducted operations out of Egypt until 1981, then continued its work in Gaza until it was exiled to Lebanon in 1987. While in Lebanon, the group was able to receive support from Hezbollah and ultimately developed a close relationship with the Lebanese organization. In 1989, the PIJ moved to Damascus, where it had remained until July 2012, when it relocated its headquarters to Iran.

The group is has offices in Damascus, Beirut, Tehran and Khartoum. It's financial backing is believed to come from Syria and Iran... The PIJ has approximately 50 members as well as recruiting chemical engineers and volunteers.

In other words, looks like Egypt invited Iran to take part in the truce talks...NOT GOOD
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


well if there are truce talks the parties to them have to be the belligerents -- and Islamic Jihad is sure one of those
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Like building one military nation, Syria, Jordan, Russia, Egypt, Palestine and Iran. Someone needs to talk them into one currency instead.
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This is for Godzilla,

And all the other Spanish speakers out there...

All of the websites defaced by Anonymous today have messages in Spanish...Looks like hacking has been outsourced to Mexico...

here's an example -

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

You have to click on CPA Society's website to see defacement...

here's another one...

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

from Argentina..

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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The US has returned three amphibious warships with 2,500 Marines aboard for standby off Israel’s shore in case they are needed to evacuate American citizens.

[link to www.debka.com]

Yeah right, I don't believe it. We are sitting off the shore of Israel for one reason - that is - if we are needed to knock some sense into the situation. As Gerry has mentioned, we can take over a country for pennies on the dollar. A few Billion in bombs and no more country. Israel just walks in and picks up the pieces. Hint to Cairo: (What we give we can take)

Oh, how many of our Subs do you think are armed and ready?

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Evacuate Americans Haahahahllbbraaaahaahahahb...!! Obama doesn't give a shit. He'd wait to a few 100 of us are dead dragged around the streets and then come to the "rescue" Better press that way. Oh, wait, is it possible to get better press? Oh wait, he might need a diversion from Libra - oh wait he's got that - knocked off 5+ Generals (right before a war??)plus how much supporting staff.... I guess we will never know that...?? rant off... (not really, but it sleepy time and I hate to go to bed in a bad mood.. Wait, where are my f'in pjs I CAN SLEEP without my f'in PJs)
[Sarcasm off]

(found them, good night to all and to all a good f'in night while we wait for a new installment of DoomCandy so that we can watch Israel get bombed into into into... my greatest fear. Please God watch over them)
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