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Whooping cough strain now immune to vaccine

 
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Whooping cough strain now immune to vaccine
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THE bacteria that causes whooping cough has mutated, eroding the protection provided by the vaccine now given to children, scientists warned yesterday.

University of NSW researchers have identified significant changes in the two most common strains of the bordetella pertussis bacteria, which they also traced back to events in the late 1990s.

Australian children were given a broad-acting "whole cell" vaccination against whooping cough up to 1997, but this was phased out over two years and replaced with a more targeted version.

Concerns over potential side-effects were behind the change to a vaccine with a narrower scope, but this now appears to have contributed to the promotion of resistant strains.

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Hi Mopar!

I will posit that the entire vaccine theory has always been a fraud. Further, no vaccine has protected anyone from any disease ever...
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Hi Mopar!

I will posit that the entire vaccine theory has always been a fraud. Further, no vaccine has protected anyone from any disease ever...
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


happycat
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The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child.

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Re: Whooping cough strain now immune to vaccine
Yeah, because vaccines GIVE you whooping cough.
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And if I see another flu/whooping cough vaccine sign advertising their administration, I am going to go ballistic. Now Target and Bartell, in addition to Walgreens and Safeway are administering these toxic shots?
The system is getting desperate.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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A strain of whooping cough is spreading around Queensland, takes around 14 days to get over, everyone I know has had it or is experiencing it the past couple of weeks.
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'childhood diseases' are 'boot camp' for a child's immune system; basic training in bio warfare. To administer a shot is to severely mess-up this training system, so when the real battle commences, our immune system is untrained and unready.

Hence what children in the '40s and '50s dealt with in a couple of uncomfortable days, now takes adults weeks to get over.
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'childhood diseases' are 'boot camp' for a child's immune system; basic training in bio warfare. To administer a shot is to severely mess-up this training system, so when the real battle commences, our immune system is untrained and unready.

Hence what children in the '40s and '50s died of now takes adults weeks to get over.
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fixed
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Just let the body do what it's supposed to - assimilate the viral strain and enjoy 30+ years of total immunity and happiness.
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'childhood diseases' are 'boot camp' for a child's immune system; basic training in bio warfare. To administer a shot is to severely mess-up this training system, so when the real battle commences, our immune system is untrained and unready.

Hence what children in the '40s and '50s dealt with in a couple of uncomfortable days, now takes adults weeks to get over.
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Hi Mopar!

I will posit that the entire vaccine theory has always been a fraud. Further, no vaccine has protected anyone from any disease ever...
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


I will posit that you are a fucking tard then.

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If we didnt have vaccines and immunizations there would be more disease and death. Why do you think the life span was much shorter hundreds of years ago.
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Re: Whooping cough strain now immune to vaccine
'childhood diseases' are 'boot camp' for a child's immune system; basic training in bio warfare. To administer a shot is to severely mess-up this training system, so when the real battle commences, our immune system is untrained and unready.

Hence what children in the '40s and '50s died of now takes adults weeks to get over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23002098


fixed
 Quoting: Cahill


Nobody in my school died from childhood diseases (1950's), but my Aunt, b 1915 reported about 3 deaths from diphtheria at her school (in the 1920's)

The big change in the intervening 30 Years was the provision of 'school lunches' to combat malnutrition. Malnutrition severely compromises the immune system, especially in young children.

By the 1950's malnutrition was no longer problematic, neither were the childhood diseases, except on rare occasions where there were complications.

Vaccination did not start until the very late 1950's
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just clean your liver every year

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rely on your own immune system

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Re: Whooping cough strain now immune to vaccine
it's weird how all these things are mutating out of control so the antibiotics can no longer stop them.


I'd guess this comes from

1. over use and abuse of antibiotics, people taking 2 pills and saying yaay im cured, when they were supposed to take another 30, and then the bacteria survived and bacme drug resistant.

2. the other problem was all the antibacterial soaps and shit, yea they killed 99.99% of the bacteria.

But that .01% finally became the dominant bacterial life form.



It's a shame that this had to happen now too.


In another 20 years we would of had nanotechnology medicine to fight and attack the diseases, that the diseases will never be able to become immune to.


What this means is all the old diseases we thought were minor problems are going to come back and be as big of a pain in the ass now as they were in the 1800's,

until the nanotechnology medicine is ready
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If we didnt have vaccines and immunizations there would be more disease and death. Why do you think the life span was much shorter hundreds of years ago.
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4horseman Because they where killing us off with poisoned water and what have you back then.

Nowadays the witches brew usually comes from a laboratory. Who knows, perhaps there is a special section in hell for these people.
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If we didnt have vaccines and immunizations there would be more disease and death. Why do you think the life span was much shorter hundreds of years ago.
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4horseman Because they where killing us off with poisoned water and what have you back then.

Nowadays the witches brew usually comes from a laboratory. Who knows, perhaps there is a special section in hell for these people.
 Quoting: Judethz


they still are -
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Re: Whooping cough strain now immune to vaccine
Hi Mopar!

I will posit that the entire vaccine theory has always been a fraud. Further, no vaccine has protected anyone from any disease ever...
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


I will posit that you are a fucking tard then.

cruise
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You may posit whatever you wish, but show me the evidence that vaccinations are actually efficacious? Why are vaccines increasing in number exponentially? Why are flu shots necessary every year, if you believe that exposure to said virus offers lifetime immunity? Why do so many children who have been vaccinated allegedly against the whooping cough actually come down with whooping cough? Show me some of your evidence to the contrary AC...

Last Edited by UseLessRepEATER on 09/02/2012 04:20 AM
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We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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'childhood diseases' are 'boot camp' for a child's immune system; basic training in bio warfare. To administer a shot is to severely mess-up this training system, so when the real battle commences, our immune system is untrained and unready.

Hence what children in the '40s and '50s died of now takes adults weeks to get over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23002098


fixed
 Quoting: Cahill


Nobody in my school died from childhood diseases (1950's), but my Aunt, b 1915 reported about 3 deaths from diphtheria at her school (in the 1920's)

The big change in the intervening 30 Years was the provision of 'school lunches' to combat malnutrition. Malnutrition severely compromises the immune system, especially in young children.

By the 1950's malnutrition was no longer problematic, neither were the childhood diseases, except on rare occasions where there were complications.

Vaccination did not start until the very late 1950's
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23002098


Certainly the fact that less children were malnourished in the 50's helped them against whooping cough, however the main reason that deaths had dropped since the turn of the century was a better understanding of how to treat the disease. The vaccine for it was actually quite widespread in the 40's rather than the late 50's though.
A neonatal child will have a very bad time indeed with whooping cough even if it is perfectly healthy before it contracts it.
I've seen too many babies with whooping cough and it's fucking horrific.
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Hi Mopar!

I will posit that the entire vaccine theory has always been a fraud. Further, no vaccine has protected anyone from any disease ever...
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


I will posit that you are a fucking tard then.

cruise
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Take it up with Dr. Carley AC:


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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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I agree whooping cough is horrific.

They inject laboratory animals with the pertussis vaccine to induce Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, as they inject mice with MSG to induce obesity! (Both vaccines and MSG being prolific and pushed in our society.)

Dr. Carly explains this and more!

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Oh my! The video I've referenced has just been posted above my post - lol.
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Hi Mopar!

I will posit that the entire vaccine theory has always been a fraud. Further, no vaccine has protected anyone from any disease ever...
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


I will posit that you are a fucking tard then.

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644


You may posit whatever you wish, but show me the evidence that vaccinations are actually efficacious? Why are vaccines increasing in number exponentially? Why are flu shots necessary every year, if you believe that exposure to said virus offers lifetime immunity? Why do so many children who have been vaccinated allegedly against the whooping cough actually come down with whooping cough? Show me some of your evidence to the contrary AC...
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


The increase in vaccinations is probably due to their reduction in cost, availability and...wait for it....the increase in population!
Not all vaccines give you lifetime immunity, that's why you have boosters for some diseases.
Flu shots aren't necessary every year, only for those who are at risk. If you knew anything about the flu, you would understand that it is a collection of viruses, not just one, so the virus which is making people I'll this year will not necessarily be the same one next year, hence the yearly shots.

I would debate your last statement about children contracting pertussis from the vaccine. As you said, show me the evidence that it is "so many". You'll always get the odd one but they are very, very much in the minority.
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Oh my! The video I've referenced has just been posted above my post - lol.
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Didn't mean to steal your thunder; I am very passionate about this topic and I am so sick of the vaccine loving sycophants.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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Re: Whooping cough strain now immune to vaccine
Hi Mopar!

I will posit that the entire vaccine theory has always been a fraud. Further, no vaccine has protected anyone from any disease ever...
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


I will posit that you are a fucking tard then.

cruise
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Take it up with Dr. Carley AC:


 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Didn't Dr Carly get struck off whilst practicing while mentally unfit?
According to her medical psychiatry reports she accused her husband of sodomising her son in a satanic ritual!
She referred to herself as "Ghandi with breasts" and compared herself to Joan of Arc!

Now feel free to take notice of what she says but personally I'll swerve her information if you don't mind.
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Oh my! The video I've referenced has just been posted above my post - lol.
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Didn't mean to steal your thunder; I am very passionate about this topic and I am so sick of the vaccine loving sycophants.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


In that case I suggest you actually learn about the subject then to make your arguments more robust.
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Hi Mopar!

I will posit that the entire vaccine theory has always been a fraud. Further, no vaccine has protected anyone from any disease ever...
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


I will posit that you are a fucking tard then.

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644


You may posit whatever you wish, but show me the evidence that vaccinations are actually efficacious? Why are vaccines increasing in number exponentially? Why are flu shots necessary every year, if you believe that exposure to said virus offers lifetime immunity? Why do so many children who have been vaccinated allegedly against the whooping cough actually come down with whooping cough? Show me some of your evidence to the contrary AC...
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


The increase in vaccinations is probably due to their reduction in cost, availability and...wait for it....the increase in population!
Not all vaccines give you lifetime immunity, that's why you have boosters for some diseases.
Flu shots aren't necessary every year, only for those who are at risk. If you knew anything about the flu, you would understand that it is a collection of viruses, not just one, so the virus which is making people I'll this year will not necessarily be the same one next year, hence the yearly shots.

I would debate your last statement about children contracting pertussis from the vaccine. As you said, show me the evidence that it is "so many". You'll always get the odd one but they are very, very much in the minority.
 Quoting: Cahill


Wake up Cahill. Think, if you are capable and not a shill, where is all this money going being generated by all these vaccines? Is big pharma not making record profits? Hey, let's manufacture another disease scare (H1N1, H5N1, Bird Flu, Sars, Hantavirus, Whooping Cough, HPV, etc.) Why are the rates of autism escalating? Could the vaccination schedule have anything to do with this phenomenon? Why is autism virtually non-existant amongst the Amish population (who for religious reasons don't vaccinate their children)?
These are only some questions I have for you. BTW, I am educated in this field, are you?
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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Oh my! The video I've referenced has just been posted above my post - lol.
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Didn't mean to steal your thunder; I am very passionate about this topic and I am so sick of the vaccine loving sycophants.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


No worries. It's all good, Dr. Carley is a very astute speaker!





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