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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain 11/08/2012 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With God, all things are possible. And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it. you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up. I beg to differ..there are paintings etc..that allegedly depict the Shroud before that date..also we have the link with the Sudarium which dates back..dcumentedly to the first centures AD We also have the type of cloth that is typical OF THE FIRST CENTURY AD and of the region of Palestine etc.. |
itsamadmadworld User ID: 27330672 United States 11/08/2012 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17040466 After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists. However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax. Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic. "The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said. [link to www.independent.co.uk] WHY does this matter? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain 11/08/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to mention the coins on the eyes..of the time of Pontius Pilate allegedly Coins which could not be seen till recently using reportedly NASA technology again why on earth would anyone bother with the coins and all the rest of it IF IT COULDNT BE SEEN TILL NOW? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8171374 United States 11/08/2012 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With God, all things are possible. And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it. you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up. it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8171374 United States 11/08/2012 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With God, all things are possible. And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it. you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up. it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic they had NO idea of these things in the 13 century ie how to create a forgery using pollen and dust fragment they didn't even have a clue what pollen was back then ... get a clue |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain 11/08/2012 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Pa resident1 With God, all things are possible. And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it. you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up. it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic they had NO idea of these things in the 13 century ie how to create a forgery using pollen and dust fragment they didn't even have a clue what pollen was back then ... get a clue exactly..they couldnt even test for blood for goodness sake..they could have used tomato juice..no one would have been the wiser let alone use..blood of a certain type..only 3% of the population have..match it with the one in the Sudarium..make sure the fuids from the spear wound are the ones of a dead body etc.. THEY COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN because they didnt have the knowledge..know how..and equipment to test it they could have literally used paint..or tomato juice or whatever..no one would have known any better |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8171374 United States 11/08/2012 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26741723 you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up. it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic they had NO idea of these things in the 13 century ie how to create a forgery using pollen and dust fragment they didn't even have a clue what pollen was back then ... get a clue exactly..they couldnt even test for blood for goodness sake..they could have used tomato juice..no one would have been the wiser let alone use..blood of a certain type..only 3% of the population have..match it with the one in the Sudarium..make sure the fuids from the spear wound are the ones of a dead body etc.. THEY COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN because they didnt have the knowledge..know how..and equipment to test it they could have literally used paint..or tomatoe juice or whatever..no one would have known any better Yes amount of examples of proof is amazing the coin itself is fantastic the three letters and the "c" letter was totally unknown in history until someone in this century found it and it took a high powered microscope to even see the coin in his eye How the hell would a 13 century forger come up with that?? Excuse my feelings, but I am pretty passionate about this.... it have known of this since I was 15 and it is obvious to me a well educated person this could NOT have been a forgery who could have done this in the 13 century those who doubt it are just plain stupid.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain 11/08/2012 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8171374 it is older than they stated because it has pollen on it and dust fragments that date from the first century this would be an IMPOSSIBILITY if it was a 13 century relic they had NO idea of these things in the 13 century ie how to create a forgery using pollen and dust fragment they didn't even have a clue what pollen was back then ... get a clue exactly..they couldnt even test for blood for goodness sake..they could have used tomato juice..no one would have been the wiser let alone use..blood of a certain type..only 3% of the population have..match it with the one in the Sudarium..make sure the fuids from the spear wound are the ones of a dead body etc.. THEY COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN because they didnt have the knowledge..know how..and equipment to test it they could have literally used paint..or tomatoe juice or whatever..no one would have known any better Yes amount of examples of proof is amazing the coin itself is fantastic the three letters and the "c" letter was totally unknown in history until someone in this century found it and it took a high powered microscope to even see the coin in his eye How the hell would a 13 century forger come up with that?? Excuse my feelings, but I am pretty passionate about this.... it have known of this since I was 15 and it is obvious to me a well educated person this could NOT have been a forgery who could have done this in the 13 century those who doubt it are just plain stupid.... It seems it was High Tech NASA equipment that picked out the image of the coins on the eyes.. XIII century..lol yeah |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26673944 United States 11/08/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the NON supernatural event, was the oils placed on his body. what the fuck are these ones trying to create. there is in fact nothing supernatural, the word reflects superstition. and we have a lot of that on this planet Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301 You are right. That's why there are some many cloths laying around with people's image on it. I mean the whole world is full of them. You can find them anyplace. Check Craigslist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain 11/08/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And interestingly the crown of thorns the forensic evidence states allegedly that it wasnt in the shape of a band around the forehead and head as depicted in most if not all paintings..it was a crown that covered the entire scalp..like a cap..a cap of thorns XIII century? oh suuuure |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8171374 United States 11/08/2012 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And interestingly the crown of thorns Quoting: wildhoney the forensic evidence states allegedly that it wasnt in the shape of a band around the forehead and head as depicted in most if not all paintings..it was a crown that covered the entire scalp..like a cap..a cap of thorns XIII century? oh suuuure Yes so many of them long list The dirt fragment ; only found on earth AT the gate of the temple... the temple was destroyed in 70 ad THis in itself is amazing and the pollen of flowers ONLY found in the first century in the holy land amazing I bet those who doubt and don't want to believe Jesus existed are doubting their own stale beliefs now somewhere in the back of their heads.... God new full well what time period to allow this precious relic to surface... the time in which humans has high powered tools ; microscopes and such!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain 11/08/2012 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And interestingly the crown of thorns Quoting: wildhoney the forensic evidence states allegedly that it wasnt in the shape of a band around the forehead and head as depicted in most if not all paintings..it was a crown that covered the entire scalp..like a cap..a cap of thorns XIII century? oh suuuure Yes so many of them long list The dirt fragment ; only found on earth AT the gate of the temple... the temple was destroyed in 70 ad THis in itself is amazing and the pollen of flowers ONLY found in the first century in the holy land amazing I bet those who doubt and don't want to believe Jesus existed are doubting their own stale beliefs now somewhere in the back of their heads.... God new full well what time period to allow this precious relic to surface... the time in which humans has high powered tools ; microscopes and such!! good point..I agree.. I think it was a message for today..when man would have the means to test it and what info it contains why today? because I think we are in the end times and in my opinion He had to show us what I think is proof that He is who He is ..so there would be no doubt....the cloth that reportedly contained His body and was in my view witness to His Resurrection and still we would doubt.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27302855 Italy 11/08/2012 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With God, all things are possible. And yes I also think this is the burial cloth of Jesus. No doubt about it. you're a moron. First of all, of course this "study" wasn't peer reviewed. Second of all, the farthest back the cloth has been dated is 1290 AD. The fact that all you jesus freaks cling to anything you think you can use as "proof" just proves how big of a retarded hoax the whole thing is. The dude never even existed to begin with, give it up. the NON supernatural event, was the oils placed on his body. what the fuck are these ones trying to create. there is in fact nothing supernatural, the word reflects superstition. and we have a lot of that on this planet Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301 You are right. That's why there are some many cloths laying around with people's image on it. I mean the whole world is full of them. You can find them anyplace. Check Craigslist. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8171374 United States 11/08/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And interestingly the crown of thorns Quoting: wildhoney the forensic evidence states allegedly that it wasnt in the shape of a band around the forehead and head as depicted in most if not all paintings..it was a crown that covered the entire scalp..like a cap..a cap of thorns XIII century? oh suuuure Yes so many of them long list The dirt fragment ; only found on earth AT the gate of the temple... the temple was destroyed in 70 ad THis in itself is amazing and the pollen of flowers ONLY found in the first century in the holy land amazing I bet those who doubt and don't want to believe Jesus existed are doubting their own stale beliefs now somewhere in the back of their heads.... God new full well what time period to allow this precious relic to surface... the time in which humans has high powered tools ; microscopes and such!! good point..I agree.. I think it was a message for today..when man would have the means to test it and what info it contains why today? because I think we are in the end times and in my opinion He had to show us what I think is proof that He is who He is ..so there would be no doubt....the cloth that reportedly contained His body and was in my view witness to His Resurrection and still we would doubt.. yes agree still they doubt |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8443185 United States 11/08/2012 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17040466 After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists. However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax. Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic. "The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said. [link to www.independent.co.uk] AS his body ascended(teleported/transmuted) it created an intense flash of light creating a kind of radiation burn on the cloth. I have know about this for years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27229856 United States 11/08/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientist = 21st century priests The same infallible logical ones who give us.......... GMO poison food,weapons of mass destruction, drugs that cover up symptoms but don't cure, chemical and viral weapons, brain washing and mind control techniques, technologies that enslave, whatever the paying benefactor wants to hear, (coffee good/coffee bad, vaccines good/vaccines bad etc.), you get the gist. Scientist fight scientist....some destroy, others search for repair. In a world that is growing dimmer by the day, it's the dark scientific priestcraft that ENABLES the elite to enslave. I'll put my trust and faith in things higher. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17868616 United States 11/08/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No Christians here yet? Quoting: wildhoney Ok..lets talk throw me what you got to debunk except cheap and easy words..facts! I'm a Christian. There is one thing that also fascinated me was in scripture He physically went out of the wrappings. Some translations say the cloth was folded up. But when we think "folded up" we think someone neatly folded it. That's not what another translation says. Folded up means it was standing with folds to indicate he had to go through the cloth to have the cloth standing in folds as though there was a body there. It blew me away. I'm reading the bible and it's saying he had to go through the cloth! So, yes this would make total sense scientifically as he said "he is the light of the world." Light think of it. It means so much in so many ways.... |