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Scientists say Turin Shroud is Supernatural | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27335986  Canada11/09/2012 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | energy blast from within the body due to subatomic molecular fusion that reactivated the physical life of the body..the spirit never died of course Quoting: wildhoney thats my take anyway  That is the most fatuous statement anyone could make. Are you trying to trick us with fancy sounding words that you heard on Fringe? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635  Spain11/09/2012 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe this is because God is just and His Judgement is Just therefore all must be given to disperse doubt..and time to learn and to apply..so it can never be said that God has been unjust in applying Justice Quoting: wildhoney is this your thread, Wild? Hi..no it isnt..but I pinned it :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain11/09/2012 04:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No Christians here yet? Quoting: wildhoney Ok..lets talk throw me what you got to debunk except cheap and easy words..facts! I'm a Christian. There is one thing that also fascinated me was in scripture He physically went out of the wrappings. Some translations say the cloth was folded up. But when we think "folded up" we think someone neatly folded it. That's not what another translation says. Folded up means it was standing with folds to indicate he had to go through the cloth to have the cloth standing in folds as though there was a body there. It blew me away. I'm reading the bible and it's saying he had to go through the cloth! So, yes this would make total sense scientifically as he said "he is the light of the world." Light think of it. It means so much in so many ways.... Great point?.. Can you just see it? I can imagine Him levitating in a horisontalposition..then a huge flash of light..and He is out of the tomb..alive..and the cloth remains there..untouched |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain11/09/2012 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No Christians here yet? Quoting: wildhoney Ok..lets talk throw me what you got to debunk except cheap and easy words..facts! I'm a Christian. There is one thing that also fascinated me was in scripture He physically went out of the wrappings. Some translations say the cloth was folded up. But when we think "folded up" we think someone neatly folded it. That's not what another translation says. Folded up means it was standing with folds to indicate he had to go through the cloth to have the cloth standing in folds as though there was a body there. It blew me away. I'm reading the bible and it's saying he had to go through the cloth! So, yes this would make total sense scientifically as he said "he is the light of the world." Light think of it. It means so much in so many ways.... Great point?.. Can you just see it? I can imagine Him levitating in a horisontalposition..then a huge flash of light..and He is out of the tomb..alive..and the cloth remains there..untouched In my opinion He didnt roll back the rock at the entrance..He didnt have to..I think someone did..because they saw and heard the huge flash of light coming from within..so they rolled it back to see what hadhappened..and He wasnt there..who rolled it back? my opinion..the paid guards at the entrance Isnt it wonderful?! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain11/09/2012 04:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | energy blast from within the body due to subatomic molecular fusion that reactivated the physical life of the body..the spirit never died of course Quoting: wildhoney thats my take anyway That is the most fatuous statement anyone could make. Are you trying to trick us with fancy sounding words that you heard on Fringe? I havent heard them anywhere....sorry if they dont make sense maybe.. thats what I think happened anyway  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain11/09/2012 04:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought the new study found the marks on the Shroud were Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213 made by UV rays and to date, man can't produce the amount of UV rays that it took to make those marks. Heavenly....  Seems like they have tried and tried to singe only the very first fibers..and havent yet managed to :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain11/09/2012 04:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gosh Id pin this again if I could isnt it wonderful? he is such a gift to all of us..and to have something like the Shroud..that to me speaks..through the milennia..is absolutely beyond adjectives..  It takes us back.. To the Glorious moment of His Victory can you manage the panic?..lol..when word got out..oops..He is back!  lol can you imagine the Sanhedrin? huh? whaT? NO WAY? MEEETINGS..DECISIONS..WHAT SHALL WE DO? shall we run? shall we hide? shall we deny and make something up? shall we try to negotiate with Him? maybe say..hey..we didnt really mean it? Heck say that He is an imposter..and that someone stole the body..? or maybe say He didnt really die on the cross? say something before they come to get us.. lol can you just imagine the Turmoil? But He didnt..He didnt even bother with them why? in my opinion because they were insignificant He came for His sheep and to them He went..to show them The Glory of God manifested through His body Praise be to God! All the Glory for Him! :) |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27363085 Germany11/09/2012 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17040466 After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists. However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax. Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic. "The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said. [link to www.independent.co.uk] The italian government has ties with the Roman Catholic church... Of course they will say its official.. Yep. Lot's 0f $$ wrapped up in this hoax. Like the apparitions, etc. The Greatest Story Ever Sold. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain11/09/2012 04:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17040466 After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists. However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax. Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic. "The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said. [link to www.independent.co.uk] The italian government has ties with the Roman Catholic church... Of course they will say its official.. Yep. Lot's 0f $$ wrapped up in this hoax. Like the apparitions, etc. The Greatest Story Ever Sold. Nope..that wont do..give us facts.. You cant can you? just words repeating words Middleage fraud etc..etc..bla bla bla |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27363085 Germany11/09/2012 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Italian government scientists have claimed to have discovered evidence that a supernatural event formed the image on the Turin Shroud, believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17040466 After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists. However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax. Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic. "The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin," they said. [link to www.independent.co.uk] The italian government has ties with the Roman Catholic church... Of course they will say its official.. Yep. Lot's 0f $$ wrapped up in this hoax. Like the apparitions, etc. The Greatest Story Ever Sold. Nope..that wont do..give us facts.. You cant can you? just words repeating words Middleage fraud etc..etc..bla bla bla You don't understand. I am not trying to get you to believe anything. That's entirely up to you; it has no effect on me. I was just giving my opinion. All religion was created and designed to control people, and to pick their pockets. It is entertaining, I guess. But all meaningless to me. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20541213 United States11/09/2012 05:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815535 The italian government has ties with the Roman Catholic church... Of course they will say its official.. Yep. Lot's 0f $$ wrapped up in this hoax. Like the apparitions, etc. The Greatest Story Ever Sold. Nope..that wont do..give us facts.. You cant can you? just words repeating words Middleage fraud etc..etc..bla bla bla You don't understand. I am not trying to get you to believe anything. That's entirely up to you; it has no effect on me. I was just giving my opinion. All religion was created and designed to control people, and to pick their pockets. It is entertaining, I guess. But all meaningless to me. Religion is man-made. There is only one faith (Eph 4:5). Germany, Hey, try with all your heart, you can understand, the faith controls no one. It' doesn't control you. God gave you free will to say yes or no. And not everyone realizes, has knowledge of the faith, especially in our times so God is going to bring about the Second Pentecost. Everyone will be shown the Truth. Remember, okay, it is soon. love, Mary |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20541213 United States11/09/2012 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought the new study found the marks on the Shroud were Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213 made by UV rays and to date, man can't produce the amount of UV rays that it took to make those marks. Heavenly.... Seems like they have tried and tried to singe only the very first fibers..and havent yet managed to :) wh, you help everyone at GLP, you have a way with words and a very strong faith. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27363085 Germany11/09/2012 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27363085 Yep. Lot's 0f $$ wrapped up in this hoax. Like the apparitions, etc. The Greatest Story Ever Sold. Nope..that wont do..give us facts.. You cant can you? just words repeating words Middleage fraud etc..etc..bla bla bla You don't understand. I am not trying to get you to believe anything. That's entirely up to you; it has no effect on me. I was just giving my opinion. All religion was created and designed to control people, and to pick their pockets. It is entertaining, I guess. But all meaningless to me. Religion is man-made. There is only one faith (Eph 4:5). Germany, Hey, try with all your heart, you can understand, the faith controls no one. It' doesn't control you. God gave you free will to say yes or no. And not everyone realizes, has knowledge of the faith, especially in our times so God is going to bring about the Second Pentecost. Everyone will be shown the Truth. Remember, okay, it is soon. love, Mary Every religion says pretty much the same thing. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain11/09/2012 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815535 The italian government has ties with the Roman Catholic church... Of course they will say its official.. Yep. Lot's 0f $$ wrapped up in this hoax. Like the apparitions, etc. The Greatest Story Ever Sold. Nope..that wont do..give us facts.. You cant can you? just words repeating words Middleage fraud etc..etc..bla bla bla You don't understand. I am not trying to get you to believe anything. That's entirely up to you; it has no effect on me. I was just giving my opinion. All religion was created and designed to control people, and to pick their pockets. It is entertaining, I guess. But all meaningless to me. Unless I am mistaken when the Shroud is exposed to the general public it is FREE you dont have to pay to see it |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27116635 Spain11/09/2012 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought the new study found the marks on the Shroud were Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213 made by UV rays and to date, man can't produce the amount of UV rays that it took to make those marks. Heavenly.... Seems like they have tried and tried to singe only the very first fibers..and havent yet managed to :) wh, you help everyone at GLP, you have a way with words and a very strong faith. Thank you Mary..you are also tireless in your effort to help people here Glp has helped me and helps me very much..I have learned much here..am learning..and many lovely people here.I think I do have faith..as I think you do.. We choose wether we are going to be limited by our senses..or wether we choose to believe in what is not as yet percievable.. wether we place man on an altar..or God because God is all powerful and there is absolutely..absolutely nothing impossible to God I was thinking about this..He doesnt have to ask permission to anyone to do anything..He just does.. So there are no limits to what He can do..none at all Why shouldnt we believe_ We are living on a globe that is floating somewhere in space..turning on its axis..while we are probably upside down and dont even know it..the sun is exactly the right distance from us..and all is made perfect and in balance..thats pretty incredible in my opinion..He can do anything.. faith is such a gift and a blessing only comparable to feeling the love of Christ |
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