To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....

The problem, my friend, is that Rome is not being rebuilt,

it's burning, and our Great Leaders are not only playing

fiddle, but fanning flames and censoring the firefighters.

I did not mention revolution. I specifically cited blogs

and educating each other to this peril.

Specifically, how does Romney present a much better

alternative and show himself for the ideals that made

this country great?

I'm afraid he is a wolf in sheep's attire.

link?

PS:

I admire your original post. Very well written. I almost

regret being at odds with some of the substance!

Kind of curious how you somehow discerned that I'm pro-war, and that Romney (or anyone that supports him) is for a society that lacks any "social responsibility" or compassion. There is of course a line where this responsibility should take hold, but the pendulum has swung entirely too far left in this country, which is precisely why we're heading 1000 mph toward the proverbial economic brick wall, and why so many European countries have now hit it.

I (and I believe many of us) are all for a compassionate society that helps those in true need, and gives them the assistance they require to get back to center - as well as lifelong assistance if necessary to those unable to care for themselves; however, we are most definitely against the entitled welfare mindset that literally pays otherwise healthy and productive people to be worthless, and appears to be growing exponentially everywhere today. Those of us that want to take us back to the constitution and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY recognize the trojan horse these "gifts" from the government (via our tax dollars) represent, and know that they ALWAYS cause a society (as well as the individual) to devolve into a mindless/depressed blob - void of innovation, self-worth or energy, and much easier to manipulate and slaughter in the end - when things finally get to that point - which they always do.

So, I wholeheartedly disagree with your premise, as well as your perception of us - and I may even call you a Communist or Marxist if you truly believe what I think you do; however, I fully endorse your right to speak your opinion, and look forward to your reply. Maybe you can enlighten me on how precisely our current experiment in socialism does anything more than secure votes for the left while setting the groundwork for a bankrupt nation - and an open door for something much worse than you in Mexico might ever want to see as a neighbor.

Well back in the summer of 2011 when Anders Breivik slaughtered 69 children at the Norwegian Labour Party's summer camp and bombed to pieces 8 more people in downtown of Oslo, Trinity pinned his/her own thread in which he/she asked: "So it was a communist brainwashing camp? Am I right?" (I sure as hell got a distinct feeling what that comment was implying so I'm not going to spell it out loud, since I find it offensive.) That's the point when I finally understood how extremely right-wing this place is. Sure, it's your right to be so but still...(pun not intended)

No problem...never expected everyone to totally agree, which is why I threw it out here, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the banter as a result.

Thanks for the complement, and I'm glad that you might agree with some of the substance at least.

You got that right OP. Love your passion!!

GLP is pretty much an "all wing" site. You get a mish mash of everything here and if you can't take opposing views then this is not the site for you ....or then again, maybe it is...we love to hash it out with whiners.

Honestly I DO think this site is right wing. Let me explain by what I mean by right wing.

Left Wing = More Government

Right Wing = Less Government


Most people posting on this site are very wary of government. I think it's only natural to want LESS government once you understand what is really going on.

I am libertarian myself and want to shrink government across the board but in the USA we get two choices. I choose the side that will grow government less than the other. I think many others on this site agree with me.

I don't understand how some people can on this site can talk about corrupt government, CFR, globalism, and all these other topics that make you very wary of Government and then go out and support leftists who play right into this agenda.

World Communism has been the plan for decades. It won't be TPTB that bring it about. It will be pawns pushing communism thinking it will benefit them. It will be the pawns that give TPTB total control without even realizing they are doing it.

Sometimes I pray that it's just bots trying to push the leftist agenda but I know some of this people really to believe that MORE government will help them.

That is a touchy subject. Anytime a child is murdered, it is an absolute travesty, and those involved deserve nothing short of death. I also think most everyone here would agree.

That said, anytime a group of adults (i.e. the government or any other group) intentionally brainwash children via some form of organized indoctrination program that is specifically designed to "assimilate" them into a mass mindset or ideology - making them think they are worthless as an individual unless they're a useful part of the whole - and that their masters (i.e. the government, the state, or even the religious or political leader) is their god, their way, their very being, they are almost as guilty as the person that pulls the trigger. To rob them of their substance, their individuality, and their ability to think for themselves as we believe God intended is beyond reproach. The man that pulled the trigger, however, was truly evil and no sane person (right-wing or otherwise) would ever condone it.

So, while some here may have handled that discussion inappropriately (there are always a few), the rationale behind the posts likely followed the above precepts - of which many here are very passionate about - mainly because we're witnessing it here in this country almost on a daily basis.

Well i am assuming YOUR premise is that the "us" you speak of are with the self proclaimed right wingers that pervades GLP. Afterall that is how you started this thread. Maybe you arent so allied with that group on GLP afterall. You now want to take an individual stance that I presume is anti war, reduced military expenditures and non interference of the Paul/Kuscinich/McKinney type. We may have common ground even if you only admire one of those people. I find it incredibly childish of you to name call, that only divides and shows your decidedly lack of character. Try a different approach.

On the one hand you are for a govt helping hand, yet you assume those who get it arent deserving. There is no more welfare longer than 5 years, so who is it you are talking about? Food stamps are a function of Low or non existent wages, not irresponsibility. It would be irresponsible for those people to not feed themselves or their kids and dependents. Would you prefer famine? Health care is too expensive and inefficient and must be reformed to a system that works (look overseas for examples), but unfortunately has been made worse by your fractured political system that cannot build consensus. Public education is the only way the vast majority of children get their education. Would you prefer massive illiteracy? Socializing corporate loses has put us all in peril because of increased taxes and spending cuts and austerity. And which spending will they cut? Not military spending.

The world you advocate by supporting the Romney/Obama charade is a super militarized Third World nation, where massive poverty and super rich live side by side. And no middle class. I know where everyone wants to be, but where the vast majority will be is self evident.

Amen

well stated OP.
Nail on the head.



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that's the left-right scale I work with too.

left - complete tyranny
right - complete anarchy

if the scale were a foot wide, I'm about ½ inch to the left of anarchy so I guess I am "extreme right-wing" in that respect.

Last Edited by Anonymous Cowherder on 10/05/2012 01:13 AM

I bet the sycophant posters were sickeningly adoring of the OP. I avoid his threads because he attracts like bees the tenor he wishes to play...

But yes, it is outrageous any sympathy toward a mass murderer. And I see this OP is making excuses for his master..

Wow...lotta stuff in one little post. I really, truly want to respond in full to you; however, I'm very tired and have an early meeting tomorrow morning. So, you'll have to wait for a full response...

Until then....I said that I "may" call you a Marxist or Communist, but stopped short so don't get your panties in a wad (yet). Also, just to be clear, I am not necessarily for reduced military spending, but others here may be. I am definitely against useless wars though - but also believe in a strong, proud and patriotic military (not the demoralized version we have today) for defense, which might translate into some savings if molded appropriately.

Your depiction of a Romney/Ryan world is right out of the liberal playbook, and I do not believe it represents anything close to what they stand for or their plan for America (guess we will have to wait and see). I will have to further address my stance on Welfare tomorrow. Good night.

BTW..Are you on vacation in Mexico, or just working from there?

Ok...I was going to bed, but had to respond. You are obviously delusional, so I now at least know what I'm dealing with.

Look forward to counseling you tomorrow.

Your excuses for that thread said all I needed to know, counselor...

If teenagers willfully participate in a organization that is tied to the democratically elected ruling party of Norway that isn't brainwashing in any sense of the word. If it was that would make any youth organization, democrat or republican, you have over there brainwashing by definition as well. I sort of get where you are coming from though. If they are communists (which they are not by the way but that's besides the point), no one would ever willfully participate. It just isn't conceptually possible that anyone could make a conscious choice of having those sort of political leanings. (This is just an exaggeration. I mean no offense.) Still in Nordic countries we have had a more or less "communist" system that has emerged from democratic procedures for nearly a hundred years. So if someone says it's better be dead than a "communist" (no one said exactly that but still) I find it...well you get the picture.

About Breivik I have to say in some ways he exemplifies many things people here find virtues, so I get those comments on those grounds as well. He fervently opposes liberalism, Islam, feminism, multiculturalism in general, "communism", etc. He also strongly supports Zionism (not sure about fundamentalist Christianity though). I'm not implying that anyone here (well there might be crazies lurking somewhere as in any other forum) would condone killing people, but in general his principles resonate here I think. And those principles are extremely right-wing where I come from. I think they would be considered extremely right-wing even if you went to big coastal cities of USA like NY and LA and so forth.

SaveUSA,,, learn to quote posters accurately. All my comments have your name under it. You seem to have difficulty with the quote button...

Not quite sure what you mean, but I still plan to get back to you later. In the meantime, maybe you can drink a mai tai or something. So much anger and conceit is ugly on you.

Thanks for your insight and sincerity. Might try to dig into this one a bit more later as well.

Back at you. lol.

Hi Joe...didn't realize that you were the OP that made this comment early in the thread; however, I'm now glad that you're engaged.

Might I respectfully suggest, however, that you may have been banned in the past because of an abrasive and condescending approach to explaining or supporting your position? I realize this approach appears common within the liberal ranks because it is difficult for many of them to simply comprehend how anyone could possibly think anything contrary to their position. That said, your anger in this regard comes through much more maliciously than those of us who prefer civil discourse.

I intend to engage you further later today or tonight (if you're still game), and really don't care if you continue with the derisive approach (it's fun to me), but don't be surprised if I begin throwing barbs of equal (or greater) weight - assuming you continue down the path you've started here.

Last Edited by SaveUSa on 10/05/2012 01:38 PM

HAHAHAHA! Oh damn, I applaud you, that statement is one of the most true things I have ever heard. You're right, Aunt Jemima syrup isn't good but IT'S ALL WE HAVE.