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Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun.

 
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Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun.
Immediately off shore from New Orleans,LA there is a site of Gas Hydrate. Right in the same vicinity of the BP Macondo well oil spill. Could this be what has been breached and is now the cause of the bubbles and sink hole?

[link to pubs.usgs.gov]

You can see the red dot in the map. Dead smack in the middle of the area in question.

Excerpt;

Gas hydrates occur at many sites
along continental margins and in the Arctic
(fig. 1). Yet we know very little about
their composition, their volume, or the
best ways to exploit their resource potential.
The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS)
is investigating many aspects of gas
hydrates to understand their origin, their
occurrence, the factors that affect their stability,
and the possibility of using this vast
resource in the world energy mix.

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Except;

Methane
hydrates have been found in the subsurface
in permafrost regions, but most occur
in oceanic sediments hundreds of meters
below the sea floor where water depths are greater than about 500 meters


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Holy smokes! I think I found the smoking gun!!

This excerpt is from a USGS publication. It states as follows;

Hazards

Gas hydrates represent a hazard to
conventional oil and gas production. In the
Gulf of Mexico, oil and gas exploration is
extending into water depths where gas
hydrates occur at the sea floor.
Pumping
hot oil from great depths through drill
pipes can cause warming of sediments and
dissociation of hydrate, liberating large
amounts of methane, weakening sediments,
and perhaps generating pockets of
highly pressured gas.
The result might be
gas blowouts, loss of support for pipelines,
and sea-floor failure that could lead to
underwater landslides and the release of
methane from hydrates.
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Holy smokes! I think I found the smoking gun!!

This excerpt is from a USGS publication. It states as follows;

Hazards

Gas hydrates represent a hazard to
conventional oil and gas production. In the
Gulf of Mexico, oil and gas exploration is
extending into water depths where gas
hydrates occur at the sea floor.
Pumping
hot oil from great depths through drill
pipes can cause warming of sediments and
dissociation of hydrate, liberating large
amounts of methane, weakening sediments,
and perhaps generating pockets of
highly pressured gas.
The result might be
gas blowouts, loss of support for pipelines,
and sea-floor failure that could lead to
underwater landslides and the release of
methane from hydrates.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Check it out in the above link, 2nd page.
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Whoopty Doom!

I like this thread!

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This is an excerpt from a PDF file I found;


"U. S. Geological Survey Gas Hydrate Studies in the Northern Gulf Of Mexico

Patrick E. Hart ([email protected], 650 329 5160)
Alan K. Cooper ([email protected], 650 329 5157)
Thomas D. Lorenson ([email protected], 650 329 4186)
U. S. Geological Survey
345 Middlefield Road
Mail Stop 999
Menlo Park, CA 94025

Gas hydrates in continental margin sediments are known or inferred worldwide,
but are only well-studied and characterized in a few locations. In the Gulf of Mexico, gas
hydrates have been identified as abundant surface mounds in much of the north-central
Gulf(New Olreans,LA)
, but evidence is essentially lacking for their existence deeper in the uppermost few
hundred meters of sediment where they are expected to be stable. Much of the current
interest in the Gulf of Mexico comes from the economic reality that conventional
hydrocarbon exploration is moving into frontier deep-water areas, i.e., in regions where
drilling will in all likelihood encounter and penetrate potential gas hydrate accumulations.

Federal, academic, and industry efforts are converging in the Gulf to make it one of the
best studied and characterized sites of hydrate occurrence."
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"The US Geological Survey (USGS) program in the Gulf of Mexico has dual
purposes: (1) to understand the relationships among gas hydrate occurrence, geologic
framework, and active geologic processes; and (2) to integrate project results with
extensive research that is being conducted by academic institutions and the exploration
industry to find the answers to these fundamental questions regarding natural gas hydrate
occurrence in the Gulf of Mexico. The initial phase of the USGS project has focused on
three areas of the north-central Gulf where gas hydrates and active gas venting are wellknown
sea-floor features: the Mississippi Canyon, Green Canyon, and Garden Banks.
These locations contain diverse geologic features (such as salt domes, deep faults, buried
channels, and turbidite deposits) and evidence for active geologic processes (such as
mass wasting, slumps, shallow-water flows, young faults, and fluid/gas venting). These
settings offer a representative sampling of the complex environments in which to
compare and understand gas hydrate occurrence."


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El Q, you've read this thread right? Does this support your smoking gun discovery?

Thread: ***TRIPLE THREAT***Jack Reeds Theory--Sink Hole, New Madrid, St. Lawrence Seaway
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To further understand the nature of the subsurface distribution of hydrates, the
USGS, with numerous collaborators, including the Department of Energy and the
Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute, plans to collect 22 giant piston cores up to
50 meters in length in July, 2002, using the French research vessel Marion Dufresne. The
core sites are grouped in five transects that are located in each of the three locations
(Mississippi Canyon, Green Canyon, and Garden Banks) and will sample targets defined
using the seismic data. Geochemical and physical property measurements will help
determine indicators for the presence of gas hydrate. With these results, it should be
possible to begin to integrate the seismic and sampling results to gain a more complete
understanding of the subsurface distributions and occurrences of gas hydrate in the north
central Gulf of Mexico.
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El Q, you've read this thread right? Does this support your smoking gun discovery?

Thread: ***TRIPLE THREAT***Jack Reeds Theory--Sink Hole, New Madrid, St. Lawrence Seaway
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They could be related.
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See page 6 for the locations of the Methane Hydrate locations surveyed for both 1998 and 1999;

[link to www.netl.doe.gov]

Ring a bell?
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Page 8 is MCS Scan image of the middle north GOM, shows end of New Madrid Fault has formation of trapped Methane Hydrate;

[link to www.netl.doe.gov]
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Location of Mississippi canyon;

[link to www.awesomestories.com]


Same exact location of BP Macondo well. Same exact location of this methane Hydrate site.
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This article is the smoking gun and expalins what is occurring in Bayou Corne,LA and the sinkhole;

[link to www.netl.doe.gov]
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Holy smokes! I think I found the smoking gun!!

This excerpt is from a USGS publication. It states as follows;

Hazards

Gas hydrates represent a hazard to
conventional oil and gas production. In the
Gulf of Mexico, oil and gas exploration is
extending into water depths where gas
hydrates occur at the sea floor.
Pumping
hot oil from great depths through drill
pipes can cause warming of sediments and
dissociation of hydrate, liberating large
amounts of methane, weakening sediments,
and perhaps generating pockets of
highly pressured gas.
The result might be
gas blowouts, loss of support for pipelines,
and sea-floor failure that could lead to
underwater landslides and the release of
methane from hydrates.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


hiding That is scary, El Q! I believe this is what is causing the sinkhole floor to elevate. Pressure is pushing it upwards. It is elevated 50 feet since Sept.
Also, in the Mississippi Canyon there are at least 3 "asphalt" volcanoes very near where the DWH went down.

Asphalt volcanoes are ocean floor vents that erupt asphalt instead of lava. They were discovered in the Gulf of Mexico during an expedition of the research vessel SONNE, led by Gerhard Bohrmann of the DFG Research Center Ocean Margins. On these volcanoes a previously unknown highly diverse ecosystem at a water depth of 3,000 meters was discovered. The discovery was reported in Science.[2]

The first asphalt volcanoes were discovered in 2003 by a research expedition to the Gulf of Mexico.[2] They are located on a seafloor hill named "Chapopote," Nahuatl for "tar." The site is located in a field of salt domes known as the Campeche Knolls, a series of steep hills formed from salt bodies that rise from underlying rock, a common feature in the gulf. The research team documented tar flows as wide as 20 m (66 ft) across. Also discovered alongside the asphalt were areas soaked with petroleum and methane hydrate, also spewed from the volcano. This kind of an environment proves attractive to chemical-loving bacteria and tubeworms, although the exact biogeochemical relationship is not yet known...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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See page 6 for the locations of the Methane Hydrate locations surveyed for both 1998 and 1999;

[link to www.netl.doe.gov]

Ring a bell?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Yes! Wow, thanks for the research, would you like to link this thread on to a couple of the sinkhole threads? There are some great minds there that are so helpful in digging out new information,
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5 stars and a pin request, my friend!
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

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Potential effects of gas hydrate on human welfare
KEITH A. KVENVOLDEN*
U.S. Geological Survey, 345 Middlefield Road, MS999, Menlo Park, CA 94025

ABSTRACT

For almost 30 years. serious interest has
been directed toward natural gas hydrate, a crystalline solid
composed of water and methane, as a potential (i) energy
resource, (ii) factor in global climate change, and (iii) submarine
geohazard. Although each of these issues can affect
human welfare, only (iii) is considered to be of immediate
importance. Assessments of gas hydrate as an energy resource
have often been overly optimistic, based in part on its very
high methane content and on its worldwide occurrence in
continental margins. Although these attributes are attractive,
geologic settings, reservoir properties, and phase-equilibria
considerations diminish the energy resource potential of
natural gas hydrate. The possible role of gas hydrate in global
climate change has been often overstated. Although methane
is a ‘‘greenhouse’’ gas in the atmosphere, much methane from
dissociated gas hydrate may never reach the atmosphere, but
rather may be converted to carbon dioxide and sequestered by
the hydrosphere/biosphere before reaching the atmosphere.
Thus, methane from gas hydrate may have little opportunity
to affect global climate change. However, submarine geohazards
(such as sediment instabilities and slope failures on local
and regional scales, leading to debris flows, slumps, slides,
and possible tsunamis) caused by gas-hydrate dissociation are
of immediate and increasing importance as humankind moves
to exploit seabed resources in ever-deepening waters of coastal
oceans
. The vulnerability of gas hydrate to temperature and
sea level changes enhances the instability of deep-water oceanic
sediments, and thus human activities and installations in
this setting can be affected.

[link to www.pnas.org]

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Wow ElQ, I had NO idea this wasn't being discussed here. I've been talking to my Father in Law & a few Friends on FB about this for the last moth or so but the information you have found will sure help bolster my arguement! Thank You for this Thread & all of this additional information! Love, Light & Blessings to You & to all who read this! smile
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Holy smokes! I think I found the smoking gun!!

This excerpt is from a USGS publication. It states as follows;

Hazards

Gas hydrates represent a hazard to
conventional oil and gas production. In the
Gulf of Mexico, oil and gas exploration is
extending into water depths where gas
hydrates occur at the sea floor.
Pumping
hot oil from great depths through drill
pipes can cause warming of sediments and
dissociation of hydrate, liberating large
amounts of methane, weakening sediments,
and perhaps generating pockets of
highly pressured gas.
The result might be
gas blowouts, loss of support for pipelines,
and sea-floor failure that could lead to
underwater landslides and the release of
methane from hydrates.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


hiding That is scary, El Q! I believe this is what is causing the sinkhole floor to elevate. Pressure is pushing it upwards. It is elevated 50 feet since Sept.
Also, in the Mississippi Canyon there are at least 3 "asphalt" volcanoes very near where the DWH went down.

Asphalt volcanoes are ocean floor vents that erupt asphalt instead of lava. They were discovered in the Gulf of Mexico during an expedition of the research vessel SONNE, led by Gerhard Bohrmann of the DFG Research Center Ocean Margins. On these volcanoes a previously unknown highly diverse ecosystem at a water depth of 3,000 meters was discovered. The discovery was reported in Science.[2]

The first asphalt volcanoes were discovered in 2003 by a research expedition to the Gulf of Mexico.[2] They are located on a seafloor hill named "Chapopote," Nahuatl for "tar." The site is located in a field of salt domes known as the Campeche Knolls, a series of steep hills formed from salt bodies that rise from underlying rock, a common feature in the gulf. The research team documented tar flows as wide as 20 m (66 ft) across. Also discovered alongside the asphalt were areas soaked with petroleum and methane hydrate, also spewed from the volcano. This kind of an environment proves attractive to chemical-loving bacteria and tubeworms, although the exact biogeochemical relationship is not yet known...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Earth Cries


The pressure is flowing from the Methane Hydrate pocket to the Napoleon salt dome area. I think it is whats destabilizing that dome.
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See page 6 for the locations of the Methane Hydrate locations surveyed for both 1998 and 1999;

[link to www.netl.doe.gov]

Ring a bell?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Yes! Wow, thanks for the research, would you like to link this thread on to a couple of the sinkhole threads? There are some great minds there that are so helpful in digging out new information,
 Quoting: Tropicalgirl


Yes please do, I linked to a few others.

This needs to get out and go viral. This is either by plan or coincidence?
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Wow ElQ, I had NO idea this wasn't being discussed here. I've been talking to my Father in Law & a few Friends on FB about this for the last moth or so but the information you have found will sure help bolster my arguement! Thank You for this Thread & all of this additional information! Love, Light & Blessings to You & to all who read this! smile
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I've been putting some hours trying to crack this one, I think with this proof that I have.
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can you put all this in layman's terms please?
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My arguement has been that this is what accounts for the unusually high(40% verse the "normal" 5%) Methane content of the Crude at the Macondo well.
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My arguement has been that this is what accounts for the unusually high(40% verse the "normal" 5%) Methane content of the Crude at the Macondo well.
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That would make sense now. It's a pocket of Methane Hydrate that BP must have compromised. Now look at it's effects.
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can you put all this in layman's terms please?
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You're reading alot into a red dot
on a map.
Methane hydrate exists at high pressure
deep under water or low temperature in
water.
It does not exist in shallow warm water.
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I don't think he's talking about shallow water, there were warnings about this possibilty on some of the old bp threads.





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