A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?

People would get fuel much faster if they rigged fuel trucks to gravity feed directly into cars. You don't need electricity or pumps. Thats how it's done on the farm.

my experience is that gas with ethanol turns to crap, even with Stabil in it, and will gum up your carb if there is any in there...

Anyone have info on this?

my experience is that gas with ethanol turns to crap, even with Stabil in it, and will gum up your carb if there is any in there...

Anyone have info on this?

I bet all your guns and ammo did not help you much indeed !!

Do not forget the lowly slingshot and glass marbles, as they are silent but effective.

I recommend adding a portable butane camping stove to bug-out gear for cooking & boiling water...even keep you warm for short periods.

their about $30 and cans of butane are cheap to stock up.

you can cook indoors with it too ...as opposed to propane BBQ's or camp stoves.

I use it for making coffee while camping..love it!

Worked:
Ample candles,
kerosene lamps/fuel
Water and canned food/rice etc.
BBQ Grill with multiple propane tanks. Use propane tanks for heating (only had 3- not going to be enough). Resorting to rocket stove for cooking and some heat from outside.

tent use at night with Coleman propane for heat in the tent. Good sleeping bags.

Many flash lights and rechargeable batteries.

Solar panels, enough power to charge phone, use lamps when needed. Not enough power for fridge. had to cook all meat.

So far will hold up. Going through water very fast. Had 20 cases in storage...going through 1 case per day.


Not enough gasoline storage. Only 25 gallons stored.
Need a good stock of firewood

No looters..locked and loaded.

Powdered milk. Light weight bags. Sold in grocery stores. Milk doesn't spoil in powered form. Reconstitute with bottled water.

Good will stores are great for prepping and it's cheaper. Candles, candle holders, oil lamp, battery radio. Best thing I found is a new glass coffee percolator pot you can use on gas burner! I have to have coffee in the morning.

It's BECAUSE we have so many guns and so much ammo that our fascist govt doesn't try more shit in the first place, jackass.

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Wal-Mart. Hispanic food section. Canned whole milk powder (much better than nonfat powdered milk). Brand name "Nido", from Nestle. Cost approx. $14 for a 3.5 lb can. Cost is about the same or slightly cheaper than the nonfat dry milk. Cans are also much sturdier and less prone to environment damage (water, rodents, etc.) than cardboard boxes and/or paper envelopes of the nonfat dry milk.

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When the led flashlights first came out (and they were still ridiculously expensive) I bought one. The claim made was that a set of fresh batteries would last for 30 days, 24/7. When I got it, I decided to test that. Got a set of fresh batteries, turned it on, and left it sitting lens-down on a bookshelf.

I didn't test it to the full 30 days, just 4 weeks (28 days). At that point, the light was very dim, but I found I could use it to walk through a dark room and not trip over anything.

Overall, I was quite impressed. Since then, as they've become vastly less expensive, I've added several in various sizes to my preps.

Also, I found that those little solar-powered garden path lights (which can even be found for just $1 each at dollar stores) do a very nice job for light when the power is off. Expose them to sunlight during the day, use them for light indoors at night. No fire hazard like candles, don't run out / wear out. They have their downsides, of course... such as can't use them for heat or to cook over... but they make a nice, cheap way to supplement and extend your stock of candles.

You can cook indoors with any "camp cooker" if you are careful: Petrol, Coleman fuel, kerosene, alcohol, butane, propane . Petrol is most dangerous for "fuel fire" so take extra care and have a fire extinguisher handy.. good idea for all flame stoves. You should KNOW what you are doing. Few things are idiot proof. A leaking fuel stove is NOT GOOD.

None are safe without some ventilation. In old leaky houses .. this was not an issue. In modern houses it is. The fuel requires oxygen to burn.. and puts out carbon dioxide and some monoxide. Open a window slightly.

I have heard of people killing themselves with butane cookers using them to heat in a sealed up vehicle.

I regard kerosene as a safer fuel for cooking , heating and lighting. But it smells.. and is harder to get these days. You can safely store large quantities of kerosene.. it lasts for years.

Butane cookers and lamps are very convenient. Quick to light and control. Butane for short term and convenience, Kerosene for longer term. Petrol is commonly available.. so the "duel fuel" Coleman camp cookers are good to have as a backup. Use outside if you are unsure of safety.

I have lived through several power outages in the Northeast during blizzards, ice storms, etc. The worst was an icestorm in upstate NY which left me and my 5 year old son without power for three weeks, along with a pine tree on the roof. All this with an electric house and well. (the now ex DH was working at a job out of state.)

What made life better? Wood stove and kerosene heater. I was able to keep the house easily at 60 degrees. We just wore lots of layers. Bust out your camping gear. I tucked us into sleeping bags under quilts, and with the two cats, we were toasty. I see a lot of references to propane stoves, but I had much better luck with my two dual fuel Coleman stoves. I did set them up outside to cook, and brought them in to the garage after they were cooled.

Water was the biggest problem, because my home was on a hillside and dependent on the electric well. I used water from the hot water tank to drink, and collected melt water from the gutters to flush the toilet. If it's yellow, let it mellow; if it's brown, flush it down. Laundry was at a minimum because when it's that cold, you just don't stink up as fast or as much. Baby wipes were an asset.

I did have a beer or two the first day, but I soon realized I needed to keep my game face on, so alcohol was put aside. To conserve candles and flashlights, we got up with the light and went to bed with the dark. Stories, songs, puzzles, along with the usual chores did help pass the time. I never had to deploy it, but there was a twelve gauge parked by the door.

I wonder at the constant use of generators. If you run them for four to six hours a day, that should be enough to keep the freezer frozen and the fridge cold, along with charging up all the peripherals. I have a 2000 watt Honda, and the thing is thrifty and quiet. However, if you need power to run all the Halloween decorations, sound system and multiple big screen tvs then be my guest. Going thrifty will stretch out those gasoline reserves. FWIW, I use premium gas treated with Stabil and I've never had a cough out of the genny, even with year old gas.

And I'm a big believer in waterbobs. People may moan about the cost, but 100 gallons of fresh water is worth a lot when you are thirsty . . .

Prayers for those who are struggling--

1/4 cell phone towers are down. Providers are working together at the moment.

Or two 500 gallon propane tanks. Living rural has it's advantages.

please tell me how does one prep for this?
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please tell me how does one prep for this?
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