Election Fraud: Fact or Fiction?

Brilliant post OP!!

SHIN IT!

Good luck in your search findings and comparisons. I just can't believe we are being fkd this bad and nothing is being done about it.

Advice be careful.

LOL

Conspiracy nuts are butthurt because reality has disproven your idiot claims...

The first thing Romney should have said was, the Republican Party will immediately investigate the wide-spread reports of vote tampering and fraud.

Nothing.

The Mongoloid table is in the back.

Go.

Wow, way to be racist and ableist at the same time! You are really good at this...

First....some articles that I found quite interesting.

NPR - [link to www.npr.org] - discussing the significant voter turnout approximately 20 minutes from the close of the polls.

"And we're going to move on now to Ohio. Polls don't close there until 7:30, about 20 minutes from now. That's where we find NPR's Tamara Keith, who's at a polling place on the campus of the Ohio State University in Columbus. And Tamara, what can you tell us about the voting issues in Ohio. It's a closely contested state, of course, and a real electoral prize, 18 votes, 18 electoral votes.

TAMARA KEITH, BYLINE: Absolutely. Well, people are definitely voting. Turnout here at this polling location is incredibly high. I've been told by poll workers at other locations that turnout is also quite strong. Of course, we won't really know until the night is over. So people are lined up. Here on campus, they're waiting anywhere from about 30 minutes to about 90 minutes. Other polling places, the lines have been shorter."

NPR - [link to www.npr.org] - another news report regarding high turnout - and, of course, an account of their close following of the "AFL-CIO Obama-bussers" during the election.

NPR - Audio - [link to www.wfae.org]

Local Fox - [link to nation.foxnews.com] - One highly republican county reflecting 125% voter turnout compared to 2008. One highly democrat county showing a 10% decline in turnout.

Daily Caller - [link to dailycaller.com] - Further support/discussion on the above.

[link to blogs.ajc.com] - Interesting GOP memo outlining the early voter results reflecting a significant increase in Republican early voting in the state of Ohio vs. a decline in Democrat early voting. Not necessarily indicative of what it should be on election day, but still telling....

Toledo Blade - [link to www.toledoblade.com] - very interesting statistics released that at least show 16 counties in NW Ohio experiencing higher overall turnout than in 2008 (Dem or Republican unknown).

[link to www.democracynow.org] - Nice article and video suggesting voter suppression, and accusing the right of "stealing the election." Of course, a great tactic to employ if you plan to do so yourself; however, if true, makes you scratch your head a bit - where did all of those new votes come from?

Politico - [link to www.politico.com] - While I agree that the OSCE needs to stay out of our election process, they have been present for a number of years. That said, I found the first idiot comment by Karen Johnson Interesting - she lists the states that blocked their access, and three of them were highly contested swing states (including Ohio).




Then we get this 12 hours ago from the state....

[link to www.wfmj.com] - Voter Turnout only 68%, which was 2% shy of the turnout from the last TWO elections.

Of course.

Please contribute if you have real evidence supporting your "reality." I'm very open to being refuted, but only by intelligent folks that have real information to share. Not drooling idiots that think "everything is good now."

Interesting article from Politico regarding new voting machines in 25 counties...

[link to www.politico.com]

The lawsuit was dismissed, and it appears to be a baseless suit per the article (and the guy filing the suit), but it is interesting in light of the following - published the day of the election:

[link to www.cbsnews.com]

Ohio faces controversy over voting machines

(MoneyWatch) As people head to the polls today to cast their ballots, a critical "battleground" state in the presidential election faces a last-minute controversy over its voting machines.

In Ohio, a lawsuit alleges that Secretary of State Jon Husted and Election Systems & Software, an Omaha, Neb., company that makes electronic voting systems used in the state, improperly approved the use of untested, non-state certified software in voting machines to help tally results.

The suit -- filed Monday in federal district court by Robert Fitrakis, a Columbus, Ohio, college professor, voting rights activist and congressional candidate representing the Green Party -- claims that the software could erroneously alter election results or even lead to election fraud. According to the complaint, the suit alleges that the software could introduce mistakes into the vote count, or allow third parties to manipulate the results.

[link to www.journalgazette.net]

Looks like a good bit of hatred between the Dems and Secretary of State....

Just one of multiple controversies stirred up prior to the election.

Another common tactic of a criminal mind is to accuse those that might hold you accountable of doing the crime you intend to do yourself.

Last Edited by SaveUSa on 11/08/2012 01:18 AM

State 2012 Election Results....

[link to www2.sos.state.oh.us]

Obama - 2,691,861

Romney - 2,584,620

Total Votes Cast - 5,364,424 (1.6% voted for a third party)

State 2008 Election Results

Obama - 2,708,685

McCain - 2,501,855

Total Votes Cast - 5,295,486 (1.6% voted for a third party)


So, these statistics do at least show higher turnout in 2012, but actually reflect a lower percentage of registered turnout than stated previously above. It also appears that the same percentage of registered voters voted for a third party candidate. So, a Romney loss cannot be attributed to a bunch of "last-minute-mind-changing" independents. In short, based on the previous articles, I'm beginning to believe that they're missing some votes.

It would be interesting to see the number of registered republicans vs. democrats in the state from 2008 to 2012....Anyone know where we might be able to find that.

Last Edited by SaveUSa on 11/08/2012 01:35 AM

You are chasing your tail. Round and round you go....

EVERY U.S. Presidential election has been RIGGED, from George Washington through Ocommie. EVERY "election" has been "WON" by the guy who had more royal blood in his veins.

The winner is PREDETERMINED by TPTB. The slaves DO NOT elect the President -- never have, never will.

You should have been paying attention in your high school civics class when the ELECTORAL COLLEGE was being discussed.

Prof. Carroll Quigley wrote about the rigged elections in Tragedy and Hope. FDR said, "The president is selected, not elected."

WAKE THE FUCK UP! It's a dog and pony show and is NOT LEGIT.

Thanks for your comment. That said, I shall continue chasing.

That's because it was all a circus show for the masses so they will continue to follow the rules and pay their taxes because they are under the illusion that they have a say.

Yes he should have...

Thread: Military absentee votes mysteriously delayed, sent back to Afghanistan, then dumped overboard before delivery...a day late

Obama Ordering Shells for choppers to quail the resistance! Get ready the shit is really coming!


Thread: new poster here cause I think you might find this interesting

thanks for the replies folks, but let's try to keep this thread focused only on voting irregularities or suspicions (at this point).

I continue to crunch my numbers and accumulate data, and will release my conclusions when done. That said, I'd be more than elated if someone were to do the same thing on, say, Florida?

ESADMF

THIS^^

'Lower voter turnout' was my first suspicion.

Throwing out ObamaCare was more important than Romney himself.


Bottom line, we were screwed either way; now we're really f*cked.

The answers you are looking for are here:

+compare numbers from 2008 (Mccain/Palin vs Obama/Biden)
county by county. Any similarities?

+diebold (KRove & the dregs of Pax Americana)

vs

SCYTL / SOE and Argentina Black Box voting machines and algos.

Sounds a lot like the 2000 and 2004 elections. Bush, Clinton, Bush II, Obama, the players change, but the game remains the same. It doesn't matter if they are Repub or Dem, they will never hold the other side accountable because they don't want people digging around in their own backyard. They're all criminals. Period. And they are all ultimately on the same side, serving the same people.

Fact or Fiction?
Fiction this year
Romney lost it because of his stupid politics

Fact year 1990
Bush stole the election with Florida electoral Fraud

Otherwise I do not see any real fraud But I do think they should change the Electoral College votes to be 1 vote for every so many votes maybe winner for each county
Something has to change to make the election fair and not make the large states decide every election.
Perhaps also PUT A LIMIT ON CONGRESS AND SENATE to only one reelection and take away from lifetime politicians to only two terms to give new people and new ideas instead of the corporations running the Congress and Senate

Here's my 2 cents worth of information concerning Election Day in OH.

At 11:12 p.m., major networks including CBS NEWS decided to call the state of Ohio for Obama which gave the win in the election to him.

A few minutes later (approx. 11:25 p.m.), FOX News followed suit with the other major networks and called Ohio for Obama and awarded the election win to Obama.

A 11:28 p.m., right after FOX NEWS called the state of OH for Obama, FOX News' Contributer and former Bush campaign strategist, Karl Rove, stated on air that in his expert opinion calling the state of Ohio for Obama at that time was most definitively premature.

At 11:32 p.m., FOX NEWS' Brett Baer made a statement that he had been in telephone contact with the Romney camp and they were not buying the call of OH being given to Obama and, thus, no one would be walking up to a podium to accept the win anytime soon.

At 11:34 p.m., in response to Karl Roves protestations and the lack of consensus regarding OH expressed by the Romney camp, FOX NEWS interviewed the FOX NEWS election Decision Room experts on air to determine what their collective opinion was in comparison to that of Karl Rove. The Decision Room experts claimed that they were 99.95% sure that OH would go to Obama and that is why they had approved of calling the state of OH for Obama a few minutes earlier.

A 11:36 p.m., FOX Decision Desk experts were asked why they had such high certitude regarding their decision, they responded by saying that most of the votes cast in Cayahoga County (Cleveland) in OH had not yet been counted and SURELY MOST OF THESE VOTES WOULD BE DEMOCRATIC.

At 11:43 p.m., FOX NEWS' Brett Baer and Megan Kelly asked Carl Rove to provide additional explanation for his analysis of the situation regarding the call on OH. Rove explained that at the time the state of OH was called for Obama by FOX NEWS, both Obama and Romney each had 49% of the vote and only 990 votes separated them.

Megan Kelly then asked Karl Rove how he felt about the FOX Decision Desk expressing a certitude of 99.95% concerning the call of OH to Obama. Rove explained that he did not agree with their stance because at the time OH was called for Obama (unlike what the Decision Desk experts said was TRUE), there were only about 200,000 votes yet to come in from Cayahoga county (Cleveland, a Democrat stronghold). At the same time, there were still 1.2 million more votes cast in OH to count. Additionally, a big chunk of the outstanding votes that were yet to come in were from Hamilton County (a Republican stronghold) and Delaware County (Republican stronghold too).

Rove then went on to explain that at the time OH was called for Obama, every 2% of the vote that came in Romney was gaining on Obama 0.5% and 60% of the voting precincts in Cayahoga County had reported, so with 23% of the vote outsanding, there was no trend to support calling the state of OH at that time for either candidate.

Following a short ommercial break, FOX NEWS' Brett Baer then stated that after further consultation with the Decision Desk experts FOX NEWS was going to stand behind their decision to call the state of OH for Obama and the election win for Obama.

Soon after that, FOX NEWS put on an older statisician who had more years of doing what Karl Rove does who proceeded to talk to Karl Rove on air. It was obvious that this older more experienced FOX NEWS consultant had been brought on air to "put Karl Rove in his place" and get him to back off of his position concerning the prematurity of the call of the state of OH for Obama.

Although Rove turned down his rhetoric, he was careful to again emphasize that at the time OH was called for Obama only 990 votes (less than 2 one-hundredths of the total votes cast) separated the two candidates in OH.

At the time Rove toned down his rhetoric, Romney was leading Obama in the popular vote nationwide by 123,000. Rove pointed out that that number of votes was less than the margin of votes that separated GWB and Gore at the end of the 2000 election cycle.

The last two things I'll add are:

About 5 p.m. on election day it was announced on the news that two judges (a Republican and a Democrat I believe) were removed from a voting precinct in OH with the reason given that a group of Pentecostal Christians had shown up at that precinct to vote but were not on the official role and they were allowed to vote with regular ballots rather than provisional ballots.

Also at about 5 p.m. on election day I saw a GLP thread which I believe quoted a Drudge story which claimed that some people (associated with the Democratic Party) had shown up at one or more voting precincts in OH (Republican areas) and had applied some sort of a computer "patch" to the electronic voting machines that were present which made a certain percentage of votes cast for Romney come up as having been cast for Obma instead.

Well, that's about all that I am aware of.

Last Edited by Biochemky on 11/08/2012 06:52 PM

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George Herbert Walker Bush was President in 1990 and was defeated by Bill Clinton in 1992.

LOOK FOR MISSING WHITES.

According to Gallup, white turnout was supposed to be 78%. Somehow it ended up being only 72%. Where did they go?