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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14541046 United States 11/14/2012 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's people upset about Obama that have no idea the complex structures of economics and society. They are venting their frustration through these petitions. And keep in mind that after 25,000 signatures, they aren't obligated to do anything, they can respond to it, but based on the past petitions that have garnered much more support that have received no formal recognition, these people are holding their breath for nothing. As much as I would love to see a state try to "survive on its own" and see the masses of people flock back into the United States when they are worse off than people in Cuba, but sadly it won't ever happen. |
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Robot Emotions User ID: 26799864 United States 11/14/2012 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama nor anyone else in government ever said anything remotely similar to 25 thousand votes will get Congress to consider it. One million people is about one half of 1% of the voting age public. And as Trinity said, they'd sooner send in the military than let a state go. Last Edited by Robot Emotions on 11/14/2012 11:31 PM |
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Indego (OP) User ID: 26952081 United States 11/14/2012 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are you kidding Quoting: ^TrInItY^ they will never been allowed to leave the union what do you think the civil war was about? you think it was over slavery? oh no my friend it was about STATES RIGHTS if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now they will NEVER allow states to leave the union they will KILL THEM before they allow that count on it Don't make me laugh ... The only reason the slaves were freed is because the south was starting to use the slaves as soldiers thus out numberIng the north a giving the confederates the upper-hand so the north sent in their plants and spread the lies of freedom ... Without telling the slaves that they would have to provide for themselves and abide by the laws .. Heck the north welcomed the freed slaves in their prisons and jails as a new form of slavery that still actually exists today ... So stick to the topic and don't make arse hole assumptions . VLR!! |
Indego (OP) User ID: 26952081 United States 11/14/2012 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175 Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though. Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they? So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think? VLR!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19320175 United States 11/14/2012 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175 Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though. Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they? So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think? You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..? There are 300 million plus in this country. |
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Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 11/14/2012 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are you kidding Quoting: ^TrInItY^ they will never been allowed to leave the union what do you think the civil war was about? you think it was over slavery? oh no my friend it was about STATES RIGHTS if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now they will NEVER allow states to leave the union they will KILL THEM before they allow that count on it If they cant parasite you they will end you. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14541046 United States 11/14/2012 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175 Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though. Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they? So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think? You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..? There are 300 million plus in this country. Relax, no matter how many people want it, no one is going to do it because they know it's a BAD IDEA. The majority of people actually understand how economics and how state, local and federal governments work and cooperate. There are a lot of idiots in Americans that have absolutely no idea how politics, economics or societies work and support the idea of succession; luckily, there is a large amount that do not support succession because they are more educated. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19588417 United States 11/14/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not about actually leaving the union. This is probably the Republicans trying to tell Democrats that they don't have a mandate. The republicans are trying to gain leverage, largely in regards to the fiscal cliff. It's evidence that neither party is willing to negotiate. Over the cliff it is then. |
Indego (OP) User ID: 26952081 United States 11/14/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holy cow you were taught some flawed flawed history. I bet you go to High School in Alabama and believe the confederacy will rise again Actually no , from the north and learned history of America as well as others and the truth as harsh as it seems is true .... Why else would the south surrender they out numbered the north something like ten to one with their slaves , oh let me guess you're a bleeding heart thinking that we owe the slave a debt or something. Fuckin idiots .... In fact. I'd call it shinanagaans since they were infact a faulty product purchased with the intent of labor ... They just wouldn't work ... So they were beaten so what ... Ever work in corporate now that's abuse... I for one see it how it is ... If you pander to a whining imp they'll just keep whining ... Got problem then go to your nearest inner-city crack house and see for your self ... Your hard earned money ( taxes) being spent on rocks ... Heck the slave Is still the slave it's master is now a drug ... And the dealer of it VLR!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14541046 United States 11/14/2012 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holy cow you were taught some flawed flawed history. I bet you go to High School in Alabama and believe the confederacy will rise again Quoting: Indego Actually no , from the north and learned history of America as well as others and the truth as harsh as it seems is true .... Why else would the south surrender they out numbered the north something like ten to one with their slaves , oh let me guess you're a bleeding heart thinking that we owe the slave a debt or something. Fuckin idiots .... In fact. I'd call it shinanagaans since they were infact a faulty product purchased with the intent of labor ... They just wouldn't work ... So they were beaten so what ... Ever work in corporate now that's abuse... I for one see it how it is ... If you pander to a whining imp they'll just keep whining ... Got problem then go to your nearest inner-city crack house and see for your self ... Your hard earned money ( taxes) being spent on rocks ... Heck the slave Is still the slave it's master is now a drug ... And the dealer of it It's obvious by the way you type and you present your "argument" that you are either a troll, or an uneducated fuckwad working at McDonalds. Keep preaching your ignorance to nobody, sweetie-pie. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6888765 United States 11/14/2012 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are you kidding Quoting: ^TrInItY^ they will never been allowed to leave the union what do you think the civil war was about? you think it was over slavery? oh no my friend it was about STATES RIGHTS if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now they will NEVER allow states to leave the union they will KILL THEM before they allow that count on it The Civil War was about VAMPIRES |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27780658 United States 11/14/2012 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175 Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though. Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they? So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think? You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..? There are 300 million plus in this country. you're right I know 4-5 people right now that fit this category and they had no idea there were petitions online about it. And even more think the petitions are a trap to gather an Obama hit list. I have never seen resentment towards an administration like this in all my 50 yrs of life. So out of every 1 person who signed, there are 50 who agree with it but didn't open themselves up to the FEMA list trap. war is coming you can bet the bank on it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19320175 United States 11/14/2012 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175 Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though. Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they? So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think? You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..? There are 300 million plus in this country. Relax, no matter how many people want it, no one is going to do it because they know it's a BAD IDEA. The majority of people actually understand how economics and how state, local and federal governments work and cooperate. There are a lot of idiots in Americans that have absolutely no idea how politics, economics or societies work and support the idea of succession; luckily, there is a large amount that do not support succession because they are more educated. A lot of very educated people find the idea plausible. Our country would never exist if we hadn't seceded from Great Britain. The fact remains that our country is literally bankrupt, if you knew a boat was sinking and had the opportunity to escape wouldn't you take it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 610727 Australia 11/14/2012 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are you kidding Quoting: ^TrInItY^ they will never been allowed to leave the union what do you think the civil war was about? you think it was over slavery? oh no my friend it was about STATES RIGHTS if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now they will NEVER allow states to leave the union they will KILL THEM before they allow that count on it AND they now have some handy lists with people names on it, all neatly delivered to their door. |
Saddletramp User ID: 812002 Puerto Rico 11/14/2012 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is just a protest... If these people were serious they would be petitioning their state legislators and governors... The President has no say in secession... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27635481 United States 11/15/2012 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well aparently there are close to 1 million or more Americans that signed Petitions for their local state governments to succede grime the union . Quoting: Indego And Obama has stated if they had 25 thousand votes congress would consider it. My question is what are they going to do if they are given what they ask ? Have they organized ? Have a leader or land to inhabbit? Or are they infact a bunch of soar losers with some sort of complexes ? Hey it's everymans right to venture out into the unknown but what exactly would be the purpose if there's no set plan? they all have monobrowes |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14541046 United States 11/15/2012 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Indego Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they? So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think? You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..? There are 300 million plus in this country. Relax, no matter how many people want it, no one is going to do it because they know it's a BAD IDEA. The majority of people actually understand how economics and how state, local and federal governments work and cooperate. There are a lot of idiots in Americans that have absolutely no idea how politics, economics or societies work and support the idea of succession; luckily, there is a large amount that do not support succession because they are more educated. A lot of very educated people find the idea plausible. Our country would never exist if we hadn't seceded from Great Britain. The fact remains that our country is literally bankrupt, if you knew a boat was sinking and had the opportunity to escape wouldn't you take it? You are comparing two COMPLETELY different scenarios in two COMPLETELY different time frames, do you know that? You are fooling yourself if you think you will be better off as an individual state than you will be with the United States. You obviously have no idea how trade, both regionally and internationally work, not to mention the problems that occur with land use, rights, policies and taxes. Please.. don't be one of the many uneducated individuals in this country. Do some research, talk to some professors and read a book or two regarding the topic at hand. You will see just how wrong this whole notion truly is. |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 11/15/2012 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | secession comes from the respective governor. Quoting: Phennommennonn the petitions are shit. theyre just a bunch of revolutiontards using virtual pickets. stupid fuckin desperate ppl Quoting: Phennommennonn all ready to jump on the bowel movement bandwagon just like occupy wallstreet - everyone was willing to join the pickets til they found out WHO was funding & backing them (thanks to shr/wonk/trin/jay/myself - GLP) fkn soros, cloward-piven, commie movement. do not jump on the revolution bandwagon - do your homework first. they have been prepping for a national uprising for a few yrs now....army purchased 6 mil in riot equipt in 2008 Thread: U.S. Army To Buy $6 Million Of Riot Equipment all the rounds & ammo purchased by the feds & diff agencies cmon.....dont be a yes-tard. use your fuckin heads. i want you all to see this - fkn shits been PLANNED Quoting: Phennommennonn look at this post Tuesday, November 25, 2008 The Break Up of the USA into Six Parts [link to aangirfan.blogspot.com] and the google hits for topics and the DATES discussed [link to www.google.com] if you can recall - mr alx ph0ney was pontificating this shit a few yrs ago - 4th url down Quoting: Phennommennonn [link to www.google.com] and everyone else jumped on the wagon Posted on May 19, 2010 Breakup Of U.S. Is Inevitable [link to chuckbaldwinlive.com] July 26, 2010 The Breakup of the United States by Michael S. Rozeff [link to www.lewrockwell.com] watch it people Quoting: Phennommennonn this shits been planned. the blueprint made as far back as 2008 heres a recent from glen beck A Texas judge has come under fire for comments he made about the potential for civil unrest in this country. The judge believes that contingency plans must be put in place in the event that some sort of worst-case scenario becomes a reality. JUDGE: [The president is] going to try to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the UN. Okay, what’s going to happen when that happens? I’m thinking worst case scenario now. VOICE: Right. Right. I understand. JUDGE: Civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war maybe. I mean, we’re not talking just a few riots here and demonstrations. We’re talking, we’re talking Lexington and Concord, take up arms and get rid of the guy. [link to www.glennbeck.com] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Indego (OP) User ID: 26952081 United States 11/15/2012 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175 Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though. Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they? So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think? You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..? There are 300 million plus in this country. Yeah but where to ? And how or with what .. Logically speaking they clearly haven't thought this through .... Hey if your American you are free to leave ... Heck travel. See the world for what it is and then since you're American welcome back.... That's the beauty of being an American it's Time we started teaching what it means to be American since these younger generations clearly have no clue! VLR!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27780658 United States 11/15/2012 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Republic and Constitution was dissolved in 1871 when Grant signed the Act of 1871 giving the land of Washington DC to the Vatican Bankers and creating a shadow government under a blanket corporation known as THE US CORPORATION. If you or your children have a Birth Certificate then you are a subsidiary CORPORATION of the US CORPORATION. You are an asset of this corporation, meaning ... they own your ass and your children and ALL your property. They just let you keep it so you will maintain it and grow it for them. One day they intend to collect on that debt. if you want your Republic and Constitution back .... you're gonna have to fight for it. The Vatican Banking Cartel will NOT go quietly into the night. |