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What type of monster God sends my loved ones into hell... | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321  United States11/27/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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nzreva  User ID: 19624091 United States11/27/2012 02:34 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't go to hell you go to the lake of fire for this age and the age to come. That is if you are a raping innocent men or women or a pedophile ... where better for you to go, to get help and change, don't want you where I am going for sure. So in fact the monster's go to a place of discipline to get help. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States11/27/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sado-narcissistic abrahamic god of christianity, judaism and islam, of course. What a nasty piece of work he is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21734520 The good news is, though, that such god does not exist. He's just a nightmare dreamed up by a bunch of primitive desert-dwelling people. When you read the bible, it soon becomes obvious that the so called prophets were often suffering from schizophrenia, delusions of grandeur and/or other psychological afflictions. However, the tribal rulers soon realized that these hallucinations describing a vengeful, omnipotent and omniscient god could be useful in gaining more power. They associated themselves with the god and god's authority and cracked down on independent thinking that could become a threat to their grip on power. Finally. A voice of sanity. believing you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions of years ago in the face of a mountain of scientific evidence to the contrary, is anything but 'independent, sane thinking.' You arrogant, assuming fucktard. I believe in God, just not your murderous, capricious, violent, sadistic, genocidal Hebrew god of Abraham, Issac and Jesus. ^^^ For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20) Who and where is this so-called god of yours? Jesus Christ is the Word, available to all to read and understand. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States11/27/2012 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | believing you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions of years ago in the face of a mountain of scientific evidence to the contrary, is anything but 'independent, sane thinking.' You arrogant, assuming fucktard. I believe in God, just not your murderous, capricious, violent, sadistic, genocidal Hebrew god of Abraham, Issac and Jesus. ^^^ For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20) Who and where is this so-called god of yours? Jesus Christ is the Word, available to all to read and understand. Unlike you, I'm not arrogant enough to read a man-made book and suddenly claim to know the nature of God. I praise God the Creator of All Things. I know nothing more than that, and neither do you. One of us is just more honest than the other. |
| TheSeventhGate User ID: 28589942  Ireland11/27/2012 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They send themselves to the Lake of Fire through their choices in this testing ground. Eternal hellfire is false Catholic doctrine from a mistranslation so they will not suffer forever. [link to www.savior-of-all.com] The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready? Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified. Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches. Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations) Saul/Paul, the false Apostle. [link to www.judaismvschristianity.com] [link to www.jesuswordsonly.com] The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy. [link to www.henrymakow.com] [link to www.giveshare.org] The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found! [link to stevenmcollins.com] Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect. [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] 777 |
| - User ID: 14012564 United States11/27/2012 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They send themselves to the Lake of Fire through their choices in this testing ground. Eternal hellfire is false Catholic doctrine from a mistranslation so they will not suffer forever. Quoting: TheSeventhGate [link to www.savior-of-all.com] Are you the last non-Catholic in Ireland? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States11/27/2012 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491 believing you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions of years ago in the face of a mountain of scientific evidence to the contrary, is anything but 'independent, sane thinking.' You arrogant, assuming fucktard. I believe in God, just not your murderous, capricious, violent, sadistic, genocidal Hebrew god of Abraham, Issac and Jesus. ^^^ For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20) Who and where is this so-called god of yours? Jesus Christ is the Word, available to all to read and understand. Unlike you, I'm not arrogant enough to read a man-made book and suddenly claim to know the nature of God. I praise God the Creator of All Things. I know nothing more than that, and neither do you. One of us is just more honest than the other. so your god has left himself and his will to be unknowable to man for all intents and purposes then as far as man is concerned, your god has made himself non-existent therefore everyone necessarily is there own living god, and absolute "good" and "evil" do not exist Do What Thou Wilt is the whole of the law. Behold, the face of your god uncovered  |
| TheSeventhGate User ID: 28589942 Ireland11/27/2012 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They send themselves to the Lake of Fire through their choices in this testing ground. Eternal hellfire is false Catholic doctrine from a mistranslation so they will not suffer forever. Quoting: TheSeventhGate [link to www.savior-of-all.com] Are you the last non-Catholic in Ireland? No, there are many. The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready? Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified. Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches. Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations) Saul/Paul, the false Apostle. [link to www.judaismvschristianity.com] [link to www.jesuswordsonly.com] The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy. [link to www.henrymakow.com] [link to www.giveshare.org] The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found! [link to stevenmcollins.com] Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect. [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] 777 |
| TheSeventhGate User ID: 28589942 Ireland11/27/2012 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They send themselves to the Lake of Fire through their choices in this testing ground. Eternal hellfire is false Catholic doctrine from a mistranslation so they will not suffer forever. Quoting: TheSeventhGate [link to www.savior-of-all.com] But the punishment is fully justified for those who rebel against the will of God. The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready? Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified. Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches. Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations) Saul/Paul, the false Apostle. [link to www.judaismvschristianity.com] [link to www.jesuswordsonly.com] The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy. [link to www.henrymakow.com] [link to www.giveshare.org] The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found! [link to stevenmcollins.com] Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect. [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] 777 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28580853 United States11/27/2012 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Brian Moser User ID: 27317240 United States11/27/2012 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you believe God controls everything and that everything happens for a reason, it can be concluded that tragedies happen for you to learn from, correct? If everything is a lesson, what is the purpose of an eternal punishment if, by being eternal, there is no use for the knowledge gained from the consequences? Yup. Think about that one. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States11/27/2012 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321 You arrogant, assuming fucktard. I believe in God, just not your murderous, capricious, violent, sadistic, genocidal Hebrew god of Abraham, Issac and Jesus. ^^^ For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20) Who and where is this so-called god of yours? Jesus Christ is the Word, available to all to read and understand. Unlike you, I'm not arrogant enough to read a man-made book and suddenly claim to know the nature of God. I praise God the Creator of All Things. I know nothing more than that, and neither do you. One of us is just more honest than the other. so your god has left himself and his will to be unknowable to man for all intents and purposes then as far as man is concerned, your god has made himself non-existent therefore everyone necessarily is there own living god, and absolute "good" and "evil" do not exist Do What Thou Wilt is the whole of the law. Behold, the face of your god uncovered There is no "face of God" "good" and "evil" don't exist. Those are imaginary constructs created by man to benefit the advancement of society as a whole. Animals have no concept of "good" and "evil" and are therefore pure of it's poisoning effect. "Good" and "Evil" don't exist. |
| Brian Moser User ID: 27317240 United States11/27/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Furthermore, if it's a sin to have doubt about the existence of Hell, why do believers take such pride in having "strength in faith"? I mean, either it's something that anyone can do or it's something worthy of arrogance and therefore, admittedly difficult to accept. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States11/27/2012 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States11/27/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491 ^^^ For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20) Who and where is this so-called god of yours? Jesus Christ is the Word, available to all to read and understand. Unlike you, I'm not arrogant enough to read a man-made book and suddenly claim to know the nature of God. I praise God the Creator of All Things. I know nothing more than that, and neither do you. One of us is just more honest than the other. so your god has left himself and his will to be unknowable to man for all intents and purposes then as far as man is concerned, your god has made himself non-existent therefore everyone necessarily is there own living god, and absolute "good" and "evil" do not exist Do What Thou Wilt is the whole of the law. Behold, the face of your god uncovered There is no "face of God" "good" and "evil" don't exist. Those are imaginary constructs created by man to benefit the advancement of society as a whole. Animals have no concept of "good" and "evil" and are therefore pure of it's poisoning effect. "Good" and "Evil" don't exist. so according to your god, raping and murdering a baby is necessarily just as "good" as, say, feeding a homeless person and you dare deride Jesus Christ you wicked liar |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19716744 United States11/27/2012 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States11/27/2012 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321 Unlike you, I'm not arrogant enough to read a man-made book and suddenly claim to know the nature of God. I praise God the Creator of All Things. I know nothing more than that, and neither do you. One of us is just more honest than the other. so your god has left himself and his will to be unknowable to man for all intents and purposes then as far as man is concerned, your god has made himself non-existent therefore everyone necessarily is there own living god, and absolute "good" and "evil" do not exist Do What Thou Wilt is the whole of the law. Behold, the face of your god uncovered There is no "face of God" "good" and "evil" don't exist. Those are imaginary constructs created by man to benefit the advancement of society as a whole. Animals have no concept of "good" and "evil" and are therefore pure of it's poisoning effect. "Good" and "Evil" don't exist. so according to your god, raping and murdering a baby is necessarily just as "good" as, say, feeding a homeless person and you dare deride Jesus Christ you wicked liar Woa there cowboy. Just because "good" and "evil" don't exist doesn't mean certain actions aren't more productive/destructive than others. It just means that whichever act you choose, there are natural consequences. Why do we have to create imaginary consequences on top of it, just because you read some man-made book? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 738932 United States11/27/2012 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you believe God controls everything and that everything happens for a reason, it can be concluded that tragedies happen for you to learn from, correct? Quoting: Brian Moser If everything is a lesson, what is the purpose of an eternal punishment if, by being eternal, there is no use for the knowledge gained from the consequences? Yup. Think about that one. Very good point. Another thing that refutes an eternal hell is the fact that if hell were eternal, you would be there right now. Because eternity includes the present moment, as well as everything before and after. Therefore, hell cannot possibly be eternal. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States11/27/2012 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States11/27/2012 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you believe God controls everything and that everything happens for a reason, it can be concluded that tragedies happen for you to learn from, correct? Quoting: Brian Moser If everything is a lesson, what is the purpose of an eternal punishment if, by being eternal, there is no use for the knowledge gained from the consequences? Yup. Think about that one. Very good point. Another thing that refutes an eternal hell is the fact that if hell were eternal, you would be there right now. Because eternity includes the present moment, as well as everything before and after. Therefore, hell cannot possibly be eternal. Another voice of reason! Thinking for yourself is quite uncommon these days and I applaud you for it. |
| Brian Moser User ID: 27317240 United States11/27/2012 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you believe God controls everything and that everything happens for a reason, it can be concluded that tragedies happen for you to learn from, correct? Quoting: Brian Moser If everything is a lesson, what is the purpose of an eternal punishment if, by being eternal, there is no use for the knowledge gained from the consequences? Yup. Think about that one. Very good point. Another thing that refutes an eternal hell is the fact that if hell were eternal, you would be there right now. Because eternity includes the present moment, as well as everything before and after. Therefore, hell cannot possibly be eternal. Exactly. It also makes the idea of nothingness (as in, "pre-existance") much more complicated than I think others would like to believe. While it may be a paradox to say that we have never not existed, it does make more sense to me than to say we went from nothing to something. Then again, if that's true, there would need to be a balanced reciprocal to our existence. Life's a trip. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States11/27/2012 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491 so your god has left himself and his will to be unknowable to man for all intents and purposes then as far as man is concerned, your god has made himself non-existent therefore everyone necessarily is there own living god, and absolute "good" and "evil" do not exist Do What Thou Wilt is the whole of the law. Behold, the face of your god uncovered There is no "face of God" "good" and "evil" don't exist. Those are imaginary constructs created by man to benefit the advancement of society as a whole. Animals have no concept of "good" and "evil" and are therefore pure of it's poisoning effect. "Good" and "Evil" don't exist. so according to your god, raping and murdering a baby is necessarily just as "good" as, say, feeding a homeless person and you dare deride Jesus Christ you wicked liar Woa there cowboy. Just because "good" and "evil" don't exist doesn't mean certain actions aren't more productive/destructive than others. It just means that whichever act you choose, there are natural consequences. Why do we have to create imaginary consequences on top of it, just because you read some man-made book? so according to your god, raping and murdering a baby might be "more productive/destructive than [other actions]." this doesn't even mean anything your religion is "Do What Thou Wilt" you wicked liar |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7254491 United States11/27/2012 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You see, we should control our own actions based on the logic of the consequences of those actions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321 Not because we're afraid some angry deity in the sky is going to send us to an eternal barbecue if we don't. only God who created all knows the consequences of all actions, you don't know jack, jack for instance, how could you possibly know all seen and unseen, present and future, physical, emotional, and spiritual consequences to those who, say, engage in homosexuality, and it's effects on society at large you couldn't possibly have a whiff of a clue only God who created all could possibly know and define such for his Creation |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States11/27/2012 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321 There is no "face of God" "good" and "evil" don't exist. Those are imaginary constructs created by man to benefit the advancement of society as a whole. Animals have no concept of "good" and "evil" and are therefore pure of it's poisoning effect. "Good" and "Evil" don't exist. so according to your god, raping and murdering a baby is necessarily just as "good" as, say, feeding a homeless person and you dare deride Jesus Christ you wicked liar Woa there cowboy. Just because "good" and "evil" don't exist doesn't mean certain actions aren't more productive/destructive than others. It just means that whichever act you choose, there are natural consequences. Why do we have to create imaginary consequences on top of it, just because you read some man-made book? so according to your god, raping and murdering a baby might be "more productive/destructive than [other actions]." this doesn't even mean anything your religion is "Do What Thou Wilt" you wicked liar The word "wicked" is meaningless. Use your fucking brain for once instead of spouting ideas other idiots spoon-fed you. Someday you will realize the prison is in your mind, and it's been created especially for pea-brained individuals such as yourself. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States11/27/2012 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You see, we should control our own actions based on the logic of the consequences of those actions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321 Not because we're afraid some angry deity in the sky is going to send us to an eternal barbecue if we don't. only God who created all knows the consequences of all actions, you don't know jack, jack for instance, how could you possibly know all seen and unseen, present and future, physical, emotional, and spiritual consequences to those who, say, engage in homosexuality, and it's effects on society at large you couldn't possibly have a whiff of a clue only God who created all could possibly know and define such for his Creation Who says we have to forsee all of the consequences of our actions? I'm sure many of us have tried to do the right thing and "help" someone only to have it backfire. Your imaginary vision of God dosen't change that fact either way. |
| RegurgitatedDisinformation User ID: 28594981  Colombia11/27/2012 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chill out, you're not going to heaven or hell. You are already there. No one in this world passes all the 'laws' of the bible, no one. You could say some do but clearly that: The Bible contradicts the idea of an all forgiving, 'perfect', all loving god. The actual state of the world doesn't show any sign of someone that takes care of us, if any he gives a fuck about everyone? You can say the last is because the so called divine words fell on one of the most corrupt bullshit hands that ever has hit humanity since history, Vatican that is. Don't fear the tactics they use to make you feel like a scum just for not praising a guy all your life. Cause that's the point of your question, it doesn't matter if they are spreading love and doing the best to this world, they will be sent to hell by a 'perfect' god. :] “The living being had no need of eyes because there was nothing outside of him to be seen; nor of ears because there was nothing to be heard; and there was no surrounding atmosphere to be breathed; nor would there have been any use of organs by the help of which he might receive his food or get rid of what he had already digested, since there was nothing which went from him or came into him: for there was nothing beside him. Of design he created thus; his own waste providing his own food, and all that he did or suffered taking place in and by himself. For the Creator conceived that a being which was self-sufficient would be far more excellent than one which lacked anything; and, as he had no need to take anything or defend himself against any one, the Creator did not think it necessary to bestow upon him hands: nor had he any need of feet, nor of the whole apparatus of walking; but the movement suited to his spherical form which was designed by him, being of all the seven that which is most appropriate to mind and intelligence; and he was made to move in the same manner and on the same spot, within his own limits revolving in a circle. All the other six motions were taken away from him, and he was made not to partake of their deviations. And as this circular movement required no feet, the universe was created without legs and without feet.” -Plato |
| MuzzleBreak User ID: 28416442 United States11/27/2012 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMO, there are two different beings as God in the OT: One commands "Thou shalt not kill." The other says "Slay all the inhabitants, man, woman, and child, saving only the young virgins." The OT was put together from older books and legends during the last of the Babylonian captivity--essentially about 500 BC. Last Edited by MuzzleBreak on 11/27/2012 03:59 PM In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values." MuzzleBreak |
