BREAKING: Approaching Unidentified Object! December 7, 2012 STAY TUNED! | |
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ShillsRUs User ID: 8068220 United States 12/09/2012 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | did someone come up with info as to what this possibly is? sorry i'm kinda lazy to read through Quoting: 1908247 Yep. Just look for Astromut's posts on pages 10-12. He confirms that the object is indeed comet C/2012 V4. Disaster averted once again. Still a good catch and post by OP. Simply not the Doom in which he seeks. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 3645704 United States 12/09/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it just me or are they blurring out the latest images on Stereo HI1 and HI2? Quoting: Pencil Dick Pinocchio 28932511 The latest images are always beacon images. They're highly compressed so that they can be quickly downloaded at low bitrates by a wide variety of receiving dishes including amateurs who provide coverage for the beacon data. |
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2012Portal 2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012 User ID: 15022013 Netherlands 12/09/2012 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would strongly recommmend Celestia as a tool to do this sort of thing. It's free and you can easily add the orbits of STEREO Behind as well as C/2012 V4 into the simulation and show how their positions relate to each other, the planets, and the stars. Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to www.shatters.net] Nice ... looks like this could blow Stellarium away ... Different tools for different jobs. Celestia has its limitations as well, but it's very good for identifying objects in STEREO images because you can view the constellations and solar system from any arbitrary location, direction, and field of view. I made a little video with it just now to show the true situation with this comet and the STEREO images. I'll post the link as soon as it's uploaded. WHoa, thanks for the vid, best watched in 1080p, full screen... did you just say that this OBJECT passes through Orion's bow?!?! Patrick Geryl will be saying I told you so! From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear: [link to graphicstart.com] --- --- --- "Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior" |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 7889442 United States 12/09/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I predict. Comet lovejoy will approach the sun again and recharge. And then it will head straight for earth and cause a pole shift. Do you Dr. Astro contest to what I say? America could be more prepared if it was not for occult knowledge being used against them. With a divided mind I am not very happy with this.. Do you understand me correctly sir? Quoting: Good Good 28932511 This is not comet lovejoy nor is it going to approach the sun nearer thanVenus, nor will it get within about an AU of us, so I contest just about everything you said. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 7889442 United States 12/09/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Different tools for different jobs. Celestia has its limitations as well, but it's very good for identifying objects in STEREO images because you can view the constellations and solar system from any arbitrary location, direction, and field of view. I made a little video with it just now to show the true situation with this comet and the STEREO images. I'll post the link as soon as it's uploaded. WHoa, thanks for the vid, best watched in 1080p, full screen... did you just say that this OBJECT passes through Orion's bow?!?! Patrick Geryl will be saying I told you so! Don't know who that is, and honestly I don't see the significance of it. From earth it doesn't even do that, only from stereo behind. Last Edited by Astromut on 12/09/2012 07:00 PM |
Good Good User ID: 28932511 United States 12/09/2012 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I predict. Comet lovejoy will approach the sun again and recharge. And then it will head straight for earth and cause a pole shift. Do you Dr. Astro contest to what I say? America could be more prepared if it was not for occult knowledge being used against them. With a divided mind I am not very happy with this.. Do you understand me correctly sir? Quoting: Good Good 28932511 This is not comet lovejoy nor is it going to approach the sun nearer thanVenus, nor will it get within about an AU of us, so I contest just about everything you said. Very good Dr. Astro. So could share with me the new orbital diagram of Comet Lovejoy to back your statement? How could you possibly know where it is and when it when it will be back without one? It is an honest question and I would like to see some facts. |
Good Good User ID: 28932511 United States 12/09/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I predict. Comet lovejoy will approach the sun again and recharge. And then it will head straight for earth and cause a pole shift. Do you Dr. Astro contest to what I say? America could be more prepared if it was not for occult knowledge being used against them. With a divided mind I am not very happy with this.. Do you understand me correctly sir? Quoting: Good Good 28932511 This is not comet lovejoy nor is it going to approach the sun nearer thanVenus, nor will it get within about an AU of us, so I contest just about everything you said. Very good Dr. Astro. So could share with me the new orbital diagram of Comet Lovejoy to back your statement? How could you possibly know where it is and when it when it will be back without one? It is an honest question and I would like to see some facts. sorry Dr. Astro I need to see a doctor. But seriously how do you know where it is and when it will be back? |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/09/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I predict. Comet lovejoy will approach the sun again and recharge. And then it will head straight for earth and cause a pole shift. Do you Dr. Astro contest to what I say? America could be more prepared if it was not for occult knowledge being used against them. With a divided mind I am not very happy with this.. Do you understand me correctly sir? Quoting: Good Good 28932511 This is not comet lovejoy nor is it going to approach the sun nearer thanVenus, nor will it get within about an AU of us, so I contest just about everything you said. Very good Dr. Astro. So could share with me the new orbital diagram of Comet Lovejoy to back your statement? How could you possibly know where it is and when it when it will be back without one? It is an honest question and I would like to see some facts. sorry Dr. Astro I need to see a doctor. But seriously how do you know where it is and when it will be back? Geez dude, have some patience. The orbital information for the comet is known. I calculated the orbit myself just now using the astrometric data and I'm currently calculating when it will return, assuming it will return any time in about the next 700 years. This takes some time, more than the 17 minutes you waited since your previous reply. |
Good Good User ID: 28932511 United States 12/09/2012 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Dr. That so called comet does not behave like a comet at all. I wanted to see a NASA orbital diagram. You just gave your opinions without charting its orbit in the first place. So you said it will get no closer to the Sun than venus and nor will it be closer to earth than an AU. And now you are charting its orbit? |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/09/2012 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Dr. That so called comet does not behave like a comet at all. I wanted to see a NASA orbital diagram. You just gave your opinions without charting its orbit in the first place. Quoting: Good Good 28932511 So you said it will get no closer to the Sun than venus and nor will it be closer to earth than an AU. And now you are charting its orbit? Excuse me, I was talking about the comet which is the subject of the thread, which is NOT Lovejoy. You keep seeming to confuse this comet with Lovejoy, which it is not. |
Good Good User ID: 28932511 United States 12/09/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Dr. That so called comet does not behave like a comet at all. I wanted to see a NASA orbital diagram. You just gave your opinions without charting its orbit in the first place. Quoting: Good Good 28932511 So you said it will get no closer to the Sun than venus and nor will it be closer to earth than an AU. And now you are charting its orbit? Excuse me, I was talking about the comet which is the subject of the thread, which is NOT Lovejoy. You keep seeming to confuse this comet with Lovejoy, which it is not. Well sorry for the confusion. So there is no way at all that this could be comet lovejoy? I really don't think that you could convince me that its not. HO HO HO :) Thanks for your time. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/09/2012 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Dr. That so called comet does not behave like a comet at all. I wanted to see a NASA orbital diagram. You just gave your opinions without charting its orbit in the first place. Quoting: Good Good 28932511 So you said it will get no closer to the Sun than venus and nor will it be closer to earth than an AU. And now you are charting its orbit? Excuse me, I was talking about the comet which is the subject of the thread, which is NOT Lovejoy. You keep seeming to confuse this comet with Lovejoy, which it is not. Here's the orbital chart for Lovejoy at its next return, which will be sometime around 2632 or so: [link to i319.photobucket.com] |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/09/2012 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Dr. That so called comet does not behave like a comet at all. I wanted to see a NASA orbital diagram. You just gave your opinions without charting its orbit in the first place. Quoting: Good Good 28932511 So you said it will get no closer to the Sun than venus and nor will it be closer to earth than an AU. And now you are charting its orbit? Excuse me, I was talking about the comet which is the subject of the thread, which is NOT Lovejoy. You keep seeming to confuse this comet with Lovejoy, which it is not. Well sorry for the confusion. So there is no way at all that this could be comet lovejoy? I really don't think that you could convince me that its not. HO HO HO :) Thanks for your time. Lovejoy isn't going to return for another 600 years and is currently headed away from the sun, not towards it. I know which comet it is, it's C/2012 V4. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/09/2012 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 19,000 miles 'miss' is close. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29216719 Note NO ONE, even astro nut DOESN'T mention the PLUS/MINUS perimeters associated with the comet. Therefore, COULD be a LOT closer, or further away ! 19000 miles? What are you even talking about? C/2012 V4 is 1.4 AUs away! I could generate the uncertainty plot if I wanted to but it's a waste of my time; it's farther from us than the sun. |
Good Good User ID: 28932511 United States 12/09/2012 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Dr. That so called comet does not behave like a comet at all. I wanted to see a NASA orbital diagram. You just gave your opinions without charting its orbit in the first place. Quoting: Good Good 28932511 So you said it will get no closer to the Sun than venus and nor will it be closer to earth than an AU. And now you are charting its orbit? Excuse me, I was talking about the comet which is the subject of the thread, which is NOT Lovejoy. You keep seeming to confuse this comet with Lovejoy, which it is not. Here's the orbital chart for Lovejoy at its next return, which will be sometime around 2632 or so: [link to i319.photobucket.com] Your Orbit chart seems to be off. [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/09/2012 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Dr. That so called comet does not behave like a comet at all. I wanted to see a NASA orbital diagram. You just gave your opinions without charting its orbit in the first place. Quoting: Good Good 28932511 So you said it will get no closer to the Sun than venus and nor will it be closer to earth than an AU. And now you are charting its orbit? Excuse me, I was talking about the comet which is the subject of the thread, which is NOT Lovejoy. You keep seeming to confuse this comet with Lovejoy, which it is not. Here's the orbital chart for Lovejoy at its next return, which will be sometime around 2632 or so: [link to i319.photobucket.com] Your Orbit chart seems to be off. [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] My chart is accurate. All you showed was a video of its December 2011 perihelion. So? I just calculated it myself, it won't return for another 600 years. I guess you don't realize that my chart is an overhead 2 dimensional chart. Yes, it is steeply inclined to the ecliptic, would you like to see the actual orbital elements? They're more information dense than just a chart. |
Good Good User ID: 28932511 United States 12/09/2012 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Excuse me, I was talking about the comet which is the subject of the thread, which is NOT Lovejoy. You keep seeming to confuse this comet with Lovejoy, which it is not. Here's the orbital chart for Lovejoy at its next return, which will be sometime around 2632 or so: [link to i319.photobucket.com] Your Orbit chart seems to be off. [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] My chart is accurate. All you showed was a video of its December 2011 perihelion. So? I just calculated it myself, it won't return for another 600 years. I guess you don't realize that my chart is an overhead 2 dimensional chart. Yes, it is steeply inclined to the ecliptic, would you like to see the actual orbital elements? They're more information dense than just a chart. No, I'm good with all that you have given. I would like you to make more updated videos of the incoming comet and its perihelion. But that is up to you. |
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MuzzleBreak User ID: 29068467 United States 12/10/2012 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the JPL orbit diagram for C/2012 V4 [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] Closest approach to Earth will be mid-March 2013, and it will get no closer than 1.2 AU--over 100 million miles. Last Edited by MuzzleBreak on 12/10/2012 11:16 AM In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values." MuzzleBreak |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 27749847 United States 12/10/2012 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't trust this Astro man at all. The Stereo Images are still blurred. What does piss me off is that there are people that know the entire story and are chicken shit to say anything. Pathetic they are. Beacon images are always all that is available for the latest few days. I'm not chicken shit, I'm telling you the truth. In fact, I even showed a video showing me calculate the orbit of C/2012 V4 using nothing but amateur observations followed by displaying where it would be seen from STEREO Behind, which is right where this comet was seen: |
Good Good User ID: 28932511 United States 12/10/2012 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't trust this Astro man at all. The Stereo Images are still blurred. What does piss me off is that there are people that know the entire story and are chicken shit to say anything. Pathetic they are. Beacon images are always all that is available for the latest few days. I'm not chicken shit, I'm telling you the truth. In fact, I even showed a video showing me calculate the orbit of C/2012 V4 using nothing but amateur observations followed by displaying where it would be seen from STEREO Behind, which is right where this comet was seen: It would be interesting to know how you calculate a comet penetrating and going through the ecliptic with 300 km/s wind speeds? I see that you are using equations with potential energy and kinetic energy. Using the suns gravitation pull and the mass of the object. Would the gravitation pull of the sun still be at the same constant with varying wind speeds on the ecliptic? I never called you a chicken shit. I'm not even a novice in this field. but I do know a lot about the occult and what the hell is going on. |
Dr. Acula Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 285665 United States 12/10/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense... Really I mean no offense... but just cuz you "know a lot about the occult" or 'Hidden Knowledge' doesnt mean you know a damn thing about space/astronomy... Hell I even "know a lot about the occult" too... Doesnt make me a rocket scientist... or anyone for that matter... with that being said i know 300-500 years ago the study of the stars and planets was considered an occult science... but in this day in age... Astrology sure... but not Astronomy Last Edited by Dr. Acula on 12/10/2012 01:36 PM _______________________ |
Good Good User ID: 28932511 United States 12/10/2012 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense... Really I mean no offense... but just cuz you "know a lot about the occult" or 'Hidden Knowledge' doesnt mean you know a damn thing about space/astronomy... Hell I even "know a lot about the occult" too... Doesnt make me a rocket scientist... or anyone for that matter... with that being said i know 300-500 years ago the study of the stars and planets was considered an occult science... but in this day in age... Astrology sure... but not Astronomy Well the NWO has been good to me for the most part. One of my harshest critics. Peace and Love to all now:) |