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Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 12/17/2012 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
New Age Messiah User ID: 9993365 United States 12/17/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The retraction means that someone was impersonating the school principle for some reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642 It doesn't mean that, it expects you to BELIEVE it. So what do you believe? I don't believe anything about it, really. I know for a fact that the government and media are evil to the core and will do anything to implement their control mechanisms. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14997497 United States 12/17/2012 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States 12/17/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The retraction means that someone was impersonating the school principle for some reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642 It doesn't mean that, it expects you to BELIEVE it. So what do you believe? I don't believe anything about it, really. I know for a fact that the government and media are evil to the core and will do anything to implement their control mechanisms. Yes. I think they are WAY MORE EVIL than some 20 year old kid. And they have proven that fact time and again. They have the motive and the means. This kid had zero motive and the means to pull this off by himself in two minutes is just unbelievable. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30142415 Spain 12/17/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States 12/17/2012 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does this mean??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14997497 "...with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count..." What is shooting multiple shows? Forgive my ignorance please. Sounds like a typo, to me. Should be "shots" not "shows." They probably rushed to get the story out. |
Get a Grip User ID: 1265620 United States 12/17/2012 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States 12/17/2012 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please do. I am usually very willing to do this type of leg work. I've written dozens of open records requests on a particular controversy. But, I can't see getting any answers other than what we've been told out of them. They aren't bound to open records laws. |
Get a Grip User ID: 1265620 United States 12/17/2012 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure they were informed about it, and they chose to lie and not tell what really happened. That may be so but surely they aren't trained liars and maybe someone could detect some deception or nervousness from whom ever they speak with. Not like this would prove a thing but just something I was actually thinking of doing. |
New Age Messiah User ID: 9993365 United States 12/17/2012 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure they were informed about it, and they chose to lie and not tell what really happened. That may be so but surely they aren't trained liars and maybe someone could detect some deception or nervousness from whom ever they speak with. Not like this would prove a thing but just something I was actually thinking of doing. Help yourself. It's obvious to me that they are lying, no one impersonates a principal in a helter skelter situation like that. The story is 100% unbelievable. |
Get a Grip User ID: 1265620 United States 12/17/2012 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure they were informed about it, and they chose to lie and not tell what really happened. That may be so but surely they aren't trained liars and maybe someone could detect some deception or nervousness from whom ever they speak with. Not like this would prove a thing but just something I was actually thinking of doing. Help yourself. It's obvious to me that they are lying, no one impersonates a principal in a helter skelter situation like that. The story is 100% unbelievable. I don't believe it one bit either to be honest I would just love to hear a human reaction on it. I might do this tonight when I get off work. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30138189 United States 12/17/2012 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure they were informed about it, and they chose to lie and not tell what really happened. That may be so but surely they aren't trained liars and maybe someone could detect some deception or nervousness from whom ever they speak with. Not like this would prove a thing but just something I was actually thinking of doing. Help yourself. It's obvious to me that they are lying, no one impersonates a principal in a helter skelter situation like that. The story is 100% unbelievable. Anybody see a specific reporters name associated with this story? The only one I see is a reporter who took the picture I wonder if its the same person. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 12/17/2012 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is their now version of that article: [link to newtownbee.com] The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States 12/17/2012 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States 12/17/2012 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: New Age Messiah I'm sure they were informed about it, and they chose to lie and not tell what really happened. That may be so but surely they aren't trained liars and maybe someone could detect some deception or nervousness from whom ever they speak with. Not like this would prove a thing but just something I was actually thinking of doing. Help yourself. It's obvious to me that they are lying, no one impersonates a principal in a helter skelter situation like that. The story is 100% unbelievable. I don't believe it one bit either to be honest I would just love to hear a human reaction on it. I might do this tonight when I get off work. Please report back if you do. Regardless of whether they tell you anything new, I'd like to know their response. |
New Age Messiah User ID: 9993365 United States 12/17/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anybody see a specific reporters name associated with this story? The only one I see is a reporter who took the picture I wonder if its the same person. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30138189 What I did notice is that the press photos of this "event" are really lame, hard to believe anyone whose job it was to take interesting pictures took the ones that were published. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States 12/17/2012 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Help yourself. It's obvious to me that they are lying, no one impersonates a principal in a helter skelter situation like that. The story is 100% unbelievable. Quoting: New Age Messiah Exactly. There's no reason to do such a thing. There were no confirmed names of the dead at the time, so it's not like it was just someone playing a sick joke. The public didn't even know she was dead yet. I think the principal did something very reasonable: She alerted the local news as to what happened at the school right after it happened. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States 12/17/2012 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anybody see a specific reporters name associated with this story? The only one I see is a reporter who took the picture I wonder if its the same person. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30138189 What I did notice is that the press photos of this "event" are really lame, hard to believe anyone whose job it was to take interesting pictures took the ones that were published. I noticed that, too. I wanted to see this broken glass at the entrance we were told about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28837935 United States 12/17/2012 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a retraction but it is curious stating a woman identified herself to their reporter as the principal! [link to newtownbee.com] (it is on first page - can't direct link). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642 Text: Retraction And Apology An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted. We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family. That should be a news story in and of itself! How weird! |
New Age Messiah User ID: 9993365 United States 12/17/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anybody see a specific reporters name associated with this story? The only one I see is a reporter who took the picture I wonder if its the same person. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30138189 What I did notice is that the press photos of this "event" are really lame, hard to believe anyone whose job it was to take interesting pictures took the ones that were published. I noticed that, too. I wanted to see this broken glass at the entrance we were told about. Yep. The story don't hold ANY water. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States 12/17/2012 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a retraction but it is curious stating a woman identified herself to their reporter as the principal! [link to newtownbee.com] (it is on first page - can't direct link). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642 Text: Retraction And Apology An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted. We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family. That should be a news story in and of itself! How weird! And "Hochsprung" not exactly the easiest name to spell, yet somehow this alleged impersonator got it exactly right for the reporter without raising any red flags for them. *rolls her eyes* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30137746 United States 12/17/2012 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a retraction but it is curious stating a woman identified herself to their reporter as the principal! [link to newtownbee.com] (it is on first page - can't direct link). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642 Text: Retraction And Apology An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted. We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family. Sounds like a "Controller" ie: gov op controlling the seen, giving false info to confuse the situation. A lot of this was done to cloud the story so that no one knows what is truth and what is false. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2122006 United States 12/17/2012 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly. Let's keep this clear. No one is buying their retraction. What do you think happened? The principal did or did not give the statement? Perhaps she did and then was killed thereafter - but why would a principal pick up a phone and call or respond to a reporter during a shooting event? If it was after, then the principal was never killed? I think she was impersonated for some reason. As I just wrote: "The principal was probably killed after the fact because she saw too much...but oops, she already alerted the local news as to what was going on. Two minutes is just not enough time for one guy to have done all this killing in the office, a classroom, and then another classroom where he allegedly tried to get to children hiding in a closet." So the principal took a call during the shooting? Not likely. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States 12/17/2012 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a retraction but it is curious stating a woman identified herself to their reporter as the principal! [link to newtownbee.com] (it is on first page - can't direct link). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642 Text: Retraction And Apology An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted. We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family. That should be a news story in and of itself! How weird! And "Hochsprung" not exactly the easiest name to spell, yet somehow this alleged impersonator got it exactly right for the reporter without raising any red flags for them. *rolls her eyes* Oh, AND the impersonator had to have been a woman. You know grown women like to make prank phone calls during such tragedies. *heavy snark* |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 28535621 United States 12/17/2012 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28535621 Exactly. Let's keep this clear. No one is buying their retraction. What do you think happened? The principal did or did not give the statement? Perhaps she did and then was killed thereafter - but why would a principal pick up a phone and call or respond to a reporter during a shooting event? If it was after, then the principal was never killed? I think she was impersonated for some reason. As I just wrote: "The principal was probably killed after the fact because she saw too much...but oops, she already alerted the local news as to what was going on. Two minutes is just not enough time for one guy to have done all this killing in the office, a classroom, and then another classroom where he allegedly tried to get to children hiding in a closet." So the principal took a call during the shooting? Not likely. Clearly it was AFTER the shooting. Read the story. She was probably just letting the local news know what was going on. That sounds reasonable to me. The story includes details about staging areas for where the parents were to report, too. News is meant to inform, believe it or not. |
New Age Messiah User ID: 9993365 United States 12/17/2012 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, AND the impersonator had to have been a woman. You know grown women like to make prank phone calls during such tragedies. *heavy snark* Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28535621 It doesn't really fit the narrative that teachers and government workers in general are saintly. So, it must not have been a school employee. |
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