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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31255288 United States 01/01/2013 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This isn't an isolated incidence, here's another account of a former Muslim, that did not have an NDE or OBE, was fully awake, not ill, on drugs, etc, and had a supernatural encounter with Jesus. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31255288 United States 01/01/2013 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Asian man born in Indonesia, describes his encounter with Jesus. During the encounter, his was fully awake. This too, is not an NDE, OBE, the man wasn't ill / hallucinating, or on drugs. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31255288 United States 01/01/2013 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Again, this is not an NDE or OBE. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31255288 United States 01/01/2013 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Woman describes her encounter with seeing Jesus. She too did not have an NDE or OBE, but was fully awake. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31255288 United States 01/01/2013 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satanist describes her encounter with Jesus. Again, not an OBE or NDE. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4386039 United States 01/01/2013 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pat Robertson is a racist, elitist, and prejudice man who does everything he does for money. All those men who claim to see Jesus could easily have been dehydrated or a number of other things, and just as in science we do not jump to conclusions, we should not also do the same with religion just because it is about a recognized character. If they had seen santa claus and he told him about jesus would you be skeptical? Sure you would! So how is it that you take them all on their word when speaking about jesus? Because you want factual evidence to cling to. These people are just deluded, and I am sorry for that. What little information we know about jesus just shows he existed and died like many others on a cross. The Roman Catholics who took in the bible originally were pegan so they mixed in their pegan ideas with what was already written. There is no way that they would only allow the elite to explain the texts, unless they wanted to deceive the many, and use them as tools. Why would they decide when people could finally read that they would release the real copy of the bible? They wouldn't. They would release a debauched version to continue the confusion among the sheep so that they would need their preachers or ministers to show them the way. Just think rationally. I am gnostic, but I don't call myself a part of any organized religion. God does exist in a world without Christ. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31054848 United States 01/01/2013 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pat Robertson is a racist, elitist, and prejudice man who does everything he does for money. All those men who claim to see Jesus could easily have been dehydrated or a number of other things, and just as in science we do not jump to conclusions, we should not also do the same with religion just because it is about a recognized character. If they had seen santa claus and he told him about jesus would you be skeptical? Sure you would! So how is it that you take them all on their word when speaking about jesus? Because you want factual evidence to cling to. These people are just deluded, and I am sorry for that. What little information we know about jesus just shows he existed and died like many others on a cross. The Roman Catholics who took in the bible originally were pegan so they mixed in their pegan ideas with what was already written. There is no way that they would only allow the elite to explain the texts, unless they wanted to deceive the many, and use them as tools. Why would they decide when people could finally read that they would release the real copy of the bible? They wouldn't. They would release a debauched version to continue the confusion among the sheep so that they would need their preachers or ministers to show them the way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4386039 Just think rationally. I am gnostic, but I don't call myself a part of any organized religion. God does exist in a world without Christ. Jesus Christ is the only way back to the Father. The fact that He has appeared to many is proof of His love for all of mankind and wants no one to perish but all to come to a saving knowledge of Him and have eternal life. You are skeptical because you have been deceived. Call on Him and allow Him to reveal Himself to you. Just as was the case with these people in the above videos, He will not disappoint you! |
pi User ID: 20063747 Canada 01/01/2013 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we do not jump to conclusions...These people are just deluded, and I am sorry for that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4386039 Isn't itjumping to conclusions, to automatically assume the people are deluded, without any evidence? Absolutely. But this is probably not real. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8410224 United States 01/02/2013 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hindu man searches Islam and even Satanism. Then Jesus appeared in his room. Jesus tells him things, which he later discovered to be true. This is not an NDE or OBE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31255288 [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31255288 United States 01/02/2013 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man in Iranian prison, describes his encounter with Jesus. Not an NDE / OBE. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Aleph Tav User ID: 31336316 Bahamas 01/02/2013 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 01/02/2013 07:56 AM REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85 |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31255288 United States 01/02/2013 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not create a thread encompassing the wide-ranging experiences of people who have had NDE's and then allow people to decide what to make of them? Quoting: Aleph Tav This phenomena is a heck of a lot more complex & fascinating than the stereotypical 'Atheist sees hell' and 'Boy sees Jesus' what about videos that are so frequently cherry-picked and posted here by Christians what about reincarnation or people of other religions seeing their God. The variability and uniqueness of NDE's speaks to there being no universal 'reality' as far as what is experienced behind the veil or in this state. For un-biased NDE stories : [link to www.near-death.com] All of these cases are not near death experiences. These are real encounters with Jesus, when the person is fully awake. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 01/02/2013 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not create a thread encompassing the wide-ranging experiences of people who have had NDE's and then allow people to decide what to make of them? Quoting: Aleph Tav This phenomena is a heck of a lot more complex & fascinating than the stereotypical 'Atheist sees hell' and 'Boy sees Jesus' what about videos that are so frequently cherry-picked and posted here by Christians what about reincarnation or people of other religions seeing their God. The variability and uniqueness of NDE's speaks to there being no universal 'reality' as far as what is experienced behind the veil or in this state. For un-biased NDE stories : [link to www.near-death.com] Hey you took that text from a post of mine in a previous thread. Please edit it out. |
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Aleph Tav User ID: 31336316 Bahamas 01/02/2013 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 01/02/2013 07:57 AM REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31255288 United States 01/02/2013 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not create a thread encompassing the wide-ranging experiences of people who have had NDE's and then allow people to decide what to make of them? Quoting: Aleph Tav This phenomena is a heck of a lot more complex & fascinating than the stereotypical 'Atheist sees hell' and 'Boy sees Jesus' what about videos that are so frequently cherry-picked and posted here by Christians what about reincarnation or people of other religions seeing their God. The variability and uniqueness of NDE's speaks to there being no universal 'reality' as far as what is experienced behind the veil or in this state. For un-biased NDE stories : [link to www.near-death.com] All of these cases are not near death experiences. These are real encounters with Jesus, when the person is fully awake. My point still stands why not post a list of a the various range of people who see their religious Gods without an NDE,like Muslims who see Allah r pagans who see their Gods and then allow people to decide why cherry pick? For un-biased NDE stories : [link to www.near-death.com] You're comparing apples to oranges. Every video are real encounters with Jesus. Go ahead and try to find, people with real encounters with Muhammad. |
pi User ID: 20063747 Canada 01/02/2013 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not create a thread encompassing the wide-ranging experiences of people who have had NDE's and then allow people to decide what to make of them? Quoting: ANHEDONIC This phenomena is a heck of a lot more complex & fascinating than the stereotypical 'Atheist sees hell' and 'Boy sees Jesus' what about videos that are so frequently cherry-picked and posted here by Christians what about reincarnation or people of other religions seeing their God. The variability and uniqueness of NDE's speaks to there being no universal 'reality' as far as what is experienced behind the veil or in this state. For un-biased NDE stories : [link to www.near-death.com] Hey you took that text from a post of mine in a previous thread. Please edit it out. Got rid of my quoted text as well, You should know I thought it was an excellent idea tho'. Last Edited by pi on 01/02/2013 08:04 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31335191 United States 01/02/2013 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me repeat, since some evidently didn't read. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31255288 Every video account I posted in this thread, aren't near death experiences, out of body experiences, dreams, etc. These are real encounters with Jesus, when the person is fully wide awake. and everyone of them is on tour making money off their experience. since when did Jesus charge admission to the freak show ? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31255288 United States 01/02/2013 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 things to note here: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31335191 1) The CIA has had a drug since the 50's that can give people the God experience in their heads. 2) This guy can also come to your church and share his story for a small fee of $1,000 and travel expenses. Snake Oil salesman indeed If the CIA has these 'drugs', that can give people these experiences, where's the Muslim's real experiences of Muhammad? Surely, they too would have these encounters. If we're cynical, and automatically assume the man, is lying since he's charging a fee, how about the others that are also seeing Jesus, and aren't charging a fee. |