Gene Rosen ... Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor' | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13806508 United States 01/06/2013 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This "crisis actor" business is bullshit. Go to the visionbox site and look around. They only started training actors for this in September and they only meet ONCE A WEEK! This appears to be some two-bit semi-pro outfit; maybe a notch above community theater at best. Do you really think Denver is where anyone would go to find a lot of good actors? Do you think that a massive, nefarious and long term project like what is alleged in Connecticut would be actually be publicly advertising for actors and acting students? That everyone they recruit for something like that would say yes and/or keep their mouths shut? |
JustCinnamon User ID: 29750990 Canada 01/06/2013 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This "crisis actor" business is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508 Go to the visionbox site and look around. They only started training actors for this in September and they only meet ONCE A WEEK! This appears to be some two-bit semi-pro outfit; maybe a notch above community theater at best. Do you really think Denver is where anyone would go to find a lot of good actors? Do you think that a massive, nefarious and long term project like what is alleged in Connecticut would be actually be publicly advertising for actors and acting students? That everyone they recruit for something like that would say yes and/or keep their mouths shut? "Do you really think Denver is where anyone would go to find a lot of good actors?" They don't really need to be "good." The public's easily fooled. "I don't have pet peeves; I have major psychotic ******* hatreds, okay. And it makes the world a lot easier to sort out." George Carlin [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31541650 United States 01/06/2013 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This "crisis actor" business is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508 Go to the visionbox site and look around. They only started training actors for this in September and they only meet ONCE A WEEK! This appears to be some two-bit semi-pro outfit; maybe a notch above community theater at best. Do you really think Denver is where anyone would go to find a lot of good actors? Do you think that a massive, nefarious and long term project like what is alleged in Connecticut would be actually be publicly advertising for actors and acting students? That everyone they recruit for something like that would say yes and/or keep their mouths shut? The Vision Box website simply illustrates that there are people who do stage these kinds of events ... even for legitimate reasons. It proves that such actors do exist ... even if their story (that they stage these events as part of a training program for police and teachers) sounds legitimate. When I first heard the suggestion that Sandy Hook may have been staged, I couldn't believe it. I had never heard of a "crisis actor" before in my life. I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a "crisis actor," and I couldn't believe that anyone would spend their time planning and carrying out such staged events. I didn't even know that such staging of events was part of normal, legitimate training operations. Whether Vision Box actually supplied the actors for Sandy Hook is anyone's guess. I cannot prove that. But, seeing the Vision Box site did prove to me that crisis actors do exist and seeing the photo on the Vision Box site (the one with the young girl cowering in fear and praying for her life as a "shooter" points a "gun" at her) did prove to me how realistic those crisis actors can appear in a well staged training photograph. After a couple of weeks of research, I am becoming more and more convinced that Sandy Hook might actually have been a staged event. There is certainly political motive for doing it. Of that I have NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER. Domestic Gun Control, UN Small Arms Treaty, and a justification for more government spending (homeland security and unionized police forces). These are very real political motives, and they all point to the Democratic Party as the suspect. That is certain. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31541650 United States 01/06/2013 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This particular video of Gene Rosen is very telling. In this one, he DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS his own story from a different interview. Not only does he DIRECTLY CONTRADICT his own story, but you can see that he matches his outward emotional appearance to the new story. In the version where he sees the parents pick up the kids at his house, he smiles and laughs, as if it was the most heartwarming thing he has ever seen. In comparison, in the other story that he tells, he takes the kids to the firehouse, without their parents. In that version, he uses his distraught and sad tone of voice. Now, let's think about it. In real situations of combat and/or other high stress events, people report a very, very strong memory of the event. They also report that time feels like it slows down and their senses are increased. They can see and smell and hear every little thing that happens. Apparently, the strong memory, heightened awareness, and the slowing down of time are all the result of the human body's adrenaline response to high stress situations. But, Gene Rosen is reporting contradictory stories AND contradictory emotions. If these events were real, his adrenaline response would've heightened his senses and awareness and memory of the events. And, the emotional reaction would be very real and non-contradictory. How can these two different emotional responses (happy that he saw the children reunited with their parents at his house versus sadness and distress about leaving the parentless children at the fire station when they seemed so helpless and scared) emerge from a real event where memories and emotions are burned into the brain by the natural adrenaline response? The answer is that they cannot! These must be the fabricated memories and emotions of a very deceiptful man |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31541650 United States 01/06/2013 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This particular video of Gene Rosen is very telling. In this one, he DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS his own story from a different interview. Not only does he DIRECTLY CONTRADICT his own story, but you can see that he matches his outward emotional appearance to the new story. In the version where he sees the parents pick up the kids at his house, he smiles and laughs, as if it was the most heartwarming thing he has ever seen. In comparison, in the other story that he tells, he takes the kids to the firehouse, without their parents. In that version, he uses his distraught and sad tone of voice. Now, let's think about it. In real situations of combat and/or other high stress events, people report a very, very strong memory of the event. They also report that time feels like it slows down and their senses are increased. They can see and smell and hear every little thing that happens. Apparently, the strong memory, heightened awareness, and the slowing down of time are all the result of the human body's adrenaline response to high stress situations. But, Gene Rosen is reporting contradictory stories AND contradictory emotions. If these events were real, his adrenaline response would've heightened his senses and awareness and memory of the events. And, the emotional reaction would be very real and non-contradictory. How can these two different emotional responses (happy that he saw the children reunited with their parents at his house versus sadness and distress about leaving the parentless children at the fire station when they seemed so helpless and scared) emerge from a real event where memories and emotions are burned into the brain by the natural adrenaline response? The answer is that they cannot! These must be the fabricated memories and emotions of a very deceiptful man And, there is something else that I know FOR CERTAIN ... If the Homeland Security budget is being used to stage these kinds of events, then I am not happy with the budget priorities being set in Washington these days. |
Anonymous User ID: 1420566 United States 01/06/2013 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somebody a few months ago posted a video of President Obama giving a speech after a disaster that had not even yet happened, so that the media could have it ahead of time and the country or leadership would be prepared. So even Obama is a crisis actor. I wish it could be posted again, it was very intriguing. |
s.j User ID: 31594230 United States 01/06/2013 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This particular video of Gene Rosen is very telling. In this one, he DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS his own story from a different interview. Not only does he DIRECTLY CONTRADICT his own story, but you can see that he matches his outward emotional appearance to the new story. In the version where he sees the parents pick up the kids at his house, he smiles and laughs, as if it was the most heartwarming thing he has ever seen. In comparison, in the other story that he tells, he takes the kids to the firehouse, without their parents. In that version, he uses his distraught and sad tone of voice. Now, let's think about it. In real situations of combat and/or other high stress events, people report a very, very strong memory of the event. They also report that time feels like it slows down and their senses are increased. They can see and smell and hear every little thing that happens. Apparently, the strong memory, heightened awareness, and the slowing down of time are all the result of the human body's adrenaline response to high stress situations. But, Gene Rosen is reporting contradictory stories AND contradictory emotions. If these events were real, his adrenaline response would've heightened his senses and awareness and memory of the events. And, the emotional reaction would be very real and non-contradictory. How can these two different emotional responses (happy that he saw the children reunited with their parents at his house versus sadness and distress about leaving the parentless children at the fire station when they seemed so helpless and scared) emerge from a real event where memories and emotions are burned into the brain by the natural adrenaline response? The answer is that they cannot! These must be the fabricated memories and emotions of a very deceiptful man And, there is something else that I know FOR CERTAIN ... If the Homeland Security budget is being used to stage these kinds of events, then I am not happy with the budget priorities being set in Washington these days. sure go ahead and blame a civilian agency that's what it was created and put there for |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31541650 United States 01/06/2013 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This particular video of Gene Rosen is very telling. In this one, he DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS his own story from a different interview. Not only does he DIRECTLY CONTRADICT his own story, but you can see that he matches his outward emotional appearance to the new story. In the version where he sees the parents pick up the kids at his house, he smiles and laughs, as if it was the most heartwarming thing he has ever seen. In comparison, in the other story that he tells, he takes the kids to the firehouse, without their parents. In that version, he uses his distraught and sad tone of voice. Now, let's think about it. In real situations of combat and/or other high stress events, people report a very, very strong memory of the event. They also report that time feels like it slows down and their senses are increased. They can see and smell and hear every little thing that happens. Apparently, the strong memory, heightened awareness, and the slowing down of time are all the result of the human body's adrenaline response to high stress situations. But, Gene Rosen is reporting contradictory stories AND contradictory emotions. If these events were real, his adrenaline response would've heightened his senses and awareness and memory of the events. And, the emotional reaction would be very real and non-contradictory. How can these two different emotional responses (happy that he saw the children reunited with their parents at his house versus sadness and distress about leaving the parentless children at the fire station when they seemed so helpless and scared) emerge from a real event where memories and emotions are burned into the brain by the natural adrenaline response? The answer is that they cannot! These must be the fabricated memories and emotions of a very deceiptful man And, there is something else that I know FOR CERTAIN ... If the Homeland Security budget is being used to stage these kinds of events, then I am not happy with the budget priorities being set in Washington these days. sure go ahead and blame a civilian agency that's what it was created and put there for So, what are you saying? Are you saying that it was actually the military that did this? |
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robsmom User ID: 32277210 United States 01/15/2013 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are sick in the head. You've caused harassment and emotional distress for a man that did nothing but help some children on that day. It's sick people like you, who have nothing better to do than cause problems for an innocent person, that make this country the mess it is today. I hope all of you harassing him are caught and sent to jail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17720631 United States 01/15/2013 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a bunch of nuts and kooks here. Some dad with 4 sons did research??? What kind of research? Please get a reality check as your hold on reality is slipping. The people who believe this was a set up are clearly mentally ill and should have their firearms removed. Sorry the 2nd Amendment is not a blanket amendment. It was for a militia. Even our 1st Amendment has limitations. Get over it. You should not be allowed to own semi or automatic weapons.You don't have unlimited free speech, so it goes that you don't have unlimited guns. Gee, I'd like to buy an surface to air missile..why not...to protect myself from our evil government. Just dumb, all of you. Shame on you for being an American (probably consider yourself a patriot!), but you believe the govt' is killing it's own children to get gun control passed? Or it was just staged? Yeah our gov't was in on 9/11 also. Just absurd. |
Sue User ID: 32277802 United States 01/15/2013 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I assume all of the wakes and funerals and all of the grieving parents, brothers, and sisters...the entire grieving town, the memorials left in front of the school...all of it was a conspiricy??? The idiots that think THIS was a conspiricy are just that...FUCKING IDIOTS!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17720631 United States 01/15/2013 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somebody a few months ago posted a video of President Obama giving a speech after a disaster that had not even yet happened, so that the media could have it ahead of time and the country or leadership would be prepared. So even Obama is a crisis actor. I wish it could be posted again, it was very intriguing. Quoting: Anonymous 1420566 Someone needs to take away your guns. Can we have your address please?? You are clearly out of touch with reality. Please see a doctor. |
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ceawaves User ID: 28704314 United States 01/15/2013 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a bunch of nuts and kooks here. Some dad with 4 sons did research??? What kind of research? Please get a reality check as your hold on reality is slipping. The people who believe this was a set up are clearly mentally ill and should have their firearms removed. Sorry the 2nd Amendment is not a blanket amendment. It was for a militia. Even our 1st Amendment has limitations. Get over it. You should not be allowed to own semi or automatic weapons.You don't have unlimited free speech, so it goes that you don't have unlimited guns. Gee, I'd like to buy an surface to air missile..why not...to protect myself from our evil government. Just dumb, all of you. Shame on you for being an American (probably consider yourself a patriot!), but you believe the govt' is killing it's own children to get gun control passed? Or it was just staged? Yeah our gov't was in on 9/11 also. Just absurd. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17720631 Hate to bring this up.. but..What did i tell yall???.. ^^^^ there you go^^^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1280257 United States 01/15/2013 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The people who believe this was a set up are clearly mentally ill Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17720631 I am curious about this diagnoses, as it gets thrown around...a lot...by certain people... please state specifically why you feel that a person's questioning of this, or any tragic event arbitrarily classifies them as clearly mentally ill. You see, in any tragic event, a murder, plane crash, car wreck etc...there is an investigation performed to ascertain the truth of said event. Are the people that perform these investigations also clearly mentally ill? Or do they have exclusive rights to "the truth"? What exactly makes an "official" investigation and subsequent conclusions sane, and one's own personal investigation and conclusions insane? I mean...aside from being a trolling shill... |
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Mordier L'eft User ID: 32272500 Canada 01/15/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | clearly none of you are from CT, because if you were (like I am) you would actually see the people that have been involved in this and realize "holy shit, that actually happened" Quoting: ANON 7846509 careful, you'll upset someone. --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32255022 United States 01/15/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I lead to the straight path without a revealed book." Satan, from the Al-Jilwah "Those who oppose me I afflict with disease..." Satan, from the Al-Jilwah (referring to the J e w s) GOOGLE SATAN + JOY TO LEARN MORE AND CONTACT SATAN/ENKI |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1794281 United States 01/15/2013 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey - uh... so I live a town over from Newtown and I'll be honest with ya; We're a peaceful, (mostly) non-violent, blue-law state. This shit happened. Okay? Some douche-er grabbed some guns and killed children in my county. IT HAPPENED. We're not actors, we go to Broadway to see a good show if you're from lower western CT (ffld cnty). We were utterly bombarded by news, asking people who were shopping at gas stations and convenient stores. These newscasters didn't give a rotten fuck about us, our emotions, and just wanted the story for thrill factor because that's good tv. That's what people like to watch. That's what the rest of the nation NEEDS TO SEE. An old man, who probably hasn't seen violence of this magnitude so close to his home... our home. so get the fuck over it, okay? it wasn't planned by anybody other then the guy who did it. I'm sure the person that would best be able to explain the guy's motive was his mother, and lookey, he killed her too. Ya'll should be writing mystery novels with the level of imagination here, and detail given to a youtube interview. So, again, call me a shill if ya'd like - but this event happened. If you are overwhelmed by the news and don't trust it, COME ON DOWN TO OUR FUCKING STATE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF. COME CONTRIBUTE TO THE PERFORMING ARTS EVENT AND DONATE MONEY TO CREATE A MEMORIAL PARK. ya'll are just sitting around with your thumbs up your asses talking about shit you know nothing about. no offense op, but get a different hobby. |
blind squirrel User ID: 26857883 United States 01/15/2013 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | clearly none of you are from CT, because if you were (like I am) you would actually see the people that have been involved in this and realize "holy shit, that actually happened" Quoting: ANON 7846509 I'm sure all of the general public that are not "in the know" are obviously devastated by this event! I was too!.....until I did my own research. But I also suspect there are certain people in CT. that know what the hell happened.......and you'll never hear the truth from them. If people died, my sympathies. If there were ulterior motives - let the truth be told! You have to admit.....many many things do not add up. Don't worry......in less than 90 days we'll have the film project in the can and they'll show us the movie! err, I mean show us the "official version". "Even a broken clock is right twice a day!" |
s.j User ID: 32253737 United States 01/15/2013 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This "crisis actor" business is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508 Go to the visionbox site and look around. They only started training actors for this in September and they only meet ONCE A WEEK! This appears to be some two-bit semi-pro outfit; maybe a notch above community theater at best. Do you really think Denver is where anyone would go to find a lot of good actors? Do you think that a massive, nefarious and long term project like what is alleged in Connecticut would be actually be publicly advertising for actors and acting students? That everyone they recruit for something like that would say yes and/or keep their mouths shut? so they got people who kill children for a living in invasions and occupations - gee, wonder what organization they could be from - and wisely keep their mouths shut about it. only in psyops they don't kill people but they still keep their mouths shut - until a script and/or camera is put in front of them then watch the lies fly and the shit flow. well that's a better than working theory imo |
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ANON User ID: 7846509 United States 01/15/2013 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | clearly none of you are from CT, because if you were (like I am) you would actually see the people that have been involved in this and realize "holy shit, that actually happened" Quoting: ANON 7846509 I'm sure all of the general public that are not "in the know" are obviously devastated by this event! I was too!.....until I did my own research. But I also suspect there are certain people in CT. that know what the hell happened.......and you'll never hear the truth from them. If people died, my sympathies. If there were ulterior motives - let the truth be told! You have to admit.....many many things do not add up. Don't worry......in less than 90 days we'll have the film project in the can and they'll show us the movie! err, I mean show us the "official version". the official version is that your are a fucktard. i know 1 of the parents who lost their child, how do you explain that? |
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st.just User ID: 32253737 United States 01/15/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | clearly none of you are from CT, because if you were (like I am) you would actually see the people that have been involved in this and realize "holy shit, that actually happened" Quoting: ANON 7846509 I'm sure all of the general public that are not "in the know" are obviously devastated by this event! I was too!.....until I did my own research. But I also suspect there are certain people in CT. that know what the hell happened.......and you'll never hear the truth from them. If people died, my sympathies. If there were ulterior motives - let the truth be told! You have to admit.....many many things do not add up. Don't worry......in less than 90 days we'll have the film project in the can and they'll show us the movie! err, I mean show us the "official version". the official version is that your are a fucktard. i know 1 of the parents who lost their child, how do you explain that? witch one? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32253737 United States 01/15/2013 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | clearly none of you are from CT, because if you were (like I am) you would actually see the people that have been involved in this and realize "holy shit, that actually happened" Quoting: ANON 7846509 I'm sure all of the general public that are not "in the know" are obviously devastated by this event! I was too!.....until I did my own research. But I also suspect there are certain people in CT. that know what the hell happened.......and you'll never hear the truth from them. If people died, my sympathies. If there were ulterior motives - let the truth be told! You have to admit.....many many things do not add up. Don't worry......in less than 90 days we'll have the film project in the can and they'll show us the movie! err, I mean show us the "official version". the official version is that your are a fucktard. i know 1 of the parents who lost their child, how do you explain that? and i said witch "1". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32272519 United States 01/15/2013 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey - uh... so I live a town over from Newtown and I'll be honest with ya; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1794281 We're a peaceful, (mostly) non-violent, blue-law state. This shit happened. Okay? Some douche-er grabbed some guns and killed children in my county. IT HAPPENED. We're not actors, we go to Broadway to see a good show if you're from lower western CT (ffld cnty). We were utterly bombarded by news, asking people who were shopping at gas stations and convenient stores. These newscasters didn't give a rotten fuck about us, our emotions, and just wanted the story for thrill factor because that's good tv. That's what people like to watch. That's what the rest of the nation NEEDS TO SEE. An old man, who probably hasn't seen violence of this magnitude so close to his home... our home. so get the fuck over it, okay? it wasn't planned by anybody other then the guy who did it. I'm sure the person that would best be able to explain the guy's motive was his mother, and lookey, he killed her too. Ya'll should be writing mystery novels with the level of imagination here, and detail given to a youtube interview. So, again, call me a shill if ya'd like - but this event happened. If you are overwhelmed by the news and don't trust it, COME ON DOWN TO OUR FUCKING STATE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF. COME CONTRIBUTE TO THE PERFORMING ARTS EVENT AND DONATE MONEY TO CREATE A MEMORIAL PARK. ya'll are just sitting around with your thumbs up your asses talking about shit you know nothing about. no offense op, but get a different hobby. How's the weather in Shilltown? You all firing up the Megaphones? |