I am a member of the Illuminati: Open Q&A. No mocking or disbelief.

OP, I wonder if you answered this AC's question in full. I been asked in dreams to "give up everything" and enter through what appears to be a membrane-like doorway that resembles a pixelated computer screen. I have also gone through some of the rigorous testing you suggested in waking life that included some interesting multi-dimensional synchronicity, apparitions/special effects and/or "simulations." Thanks!

The race you can never win (unless you're one of "us")

You're the fastest runner in the world and you take your place at the starting line for the most important race of your life. You look up the track and see some obese guy in a suit standing five metres from the finishing tape. You complain to the race organiser but he tells you to mind your own business and concentrate on your own race. You think it must be some bizarre joke and it will all get sorted out later. The starting pistol sounds and you set off, running faster than you ever have in your life. But no matter how fast you run, no matter how good you are, you'll never beat the fat man, puffing, panting and waddling his way to the finishing line.

Fattie wins the gold medal, and receives the adulation of the crowd. Two attractive blondes throw themselves at him. Everyone tells him how brilliant he is. He says he owes it all to God and his loving family who bought him a place at the best of schools and paid a million dollars to allow him to start five metres from the finishing line. The crowd cheers and demands that the winner's parents be allowed to stand on the podium alongside their brilliant son. A reporter asks father, mother and son what they think of the second-placed athlete who broke the world record but still lost. They all shrug and say in unison, 'Well, he's not a member of our family, so who cares.' The crowd, full of like-minded families, rises to acclaim them. 'If only we could all be like them,' they sigh. The world-record holder goes back to his housing project and dead end job. His colleagues tell him he's a loser, and turn their backs on him.

Welcome to the anti-meritocratic world, this world. What are you going to do about it? Will you stand back and watch while cronyism, nepotism, the old school tie, the private club, the right university, the right accent, the right background, the right secret society, the right religion, the right family, destroy merit so that their chosen ones can prosper at your expense. It's time to smash the conspiracy. Break up all the mechanisms that allow privileged groups within society to rig the system in their favour and penalise anyone who doesn't belong to their insidious cliques.

The Meritocracy Party seeks to ensure that everyone, as far as possible, starts the race of life from the same starting line. Then we'll see who the fastest runners really are; who deserves the medals, who should justly receive the acclaim and the rewards. At the moment, who you know (nepotism and cronyism) is vastly more important than what you know (merit). How often do we hear the mantra, 'Networking is the fastest way up the ladder.' Meritocracy will push this toxic ladder over. From now on, demonstrable talent, not your social connections, will be the fastest way to make progress in life.

Oh my. LOL. Where to begin.

Look, do you know the difference between Love of Power and Power of love and that lots are not willing to stand under you, they consider your lot to be very immature. Only the weakest beings need slaves?

Have you ever realized that putting effort into truth and getting local groups up and running things, solving problems, aquaponics, standing up for freedoms, and working at free enterprise, clean businesses not monopolies IS the solution.

Oh, and not murdering those who have already solved the energy crisis and come up with clean alternatives including the guy who discovered that nuclear waste could be neutralized while turned into energy for consumption, not that this didn't necessitate getting rid of nuclear.

This world and all its resources belongs equally to all of us.

So, have your people ever thought of sitting down and working with everone together?

Do your people believe in consequences to harming others?

Do your people think they're off the hook of consequence?

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Hmmm. So it seems we both want to challenge the status quo, but perhaps have different ways of going about it? And you are Illuminati? I thought they were the ruling class? And run the banking system (pyramid w/ eye on dollar bill, etc.)? So, anyway, I've been careful lately not to utter the names of organizations, and perhaps I should have been more careful on this thread because I realize any organization may not be homogenous and also due to secrecy I might misunderstand the intentions of any given group. So, I try and talk about just the agenda. Well, we probably have some common ground. As we should being as we're both not in the highest tier of society yet. But, perhaps the elites are joined together as well. Sometimes I think they're all on basically the same page and use Illuminati or Masons, etc. to give the illusion of parity on the world stage, basically to divide and conquer. Not sure, but I appreciate this conversation and can see some common ground forming.

Ac32996962, you're preaching to the wrong crowd here, mate, but good on you for trying.

Light Love Life to you illuminatus

Yeah, I know, but then I got a few guys interested & it seemed like I was on a roll!

You take care my friend.

Well said, and nice metaphor. We have similar goals. That's a big deal.

Since the dawn of time there has been a global conspiracy, and its nature never changes. The conspirators are the rich and powerful and their aim, their only aim, is to maintain their wealth and power indefinitely. Only on the rarest occasions, when their hatred of the masses, their greed and contempt, have reached fantastic proportions (such as in France in 1789 and Russia in 1917), do they slip up. Are they on the cusp of slipping up again? The wealth of some individuals is obscene, and their conspicuous and arrogant spending a constant provocation that will in due course receive an appropriate response.

The Meritocracy Party promotes a single rule: that people should be judged entirely on their own merits and not those of their parents or any other individuals or groups with which they may be related or associated. The Family is the anti-meritocratic institution par excellence since it cares only about its own interests regardless of the objective merits of the family members. Parents of inept children will think they have done their job perfectly if they secure wonderful jobs and lifestyles for their unmeritorious offspring. Their 'accomplishment' is that they have massively damaged the interests of the state, they have ensured that incompetence is ingrained in society, and they have guaranteed all of the ills from which our nation surely suffers.

I have to do this carefully, instant auto ban if you get my drift.

Google arm-a-gedd on // con-spir-acy

two words, no dashes or spaces

and by the end of the discourse, you will be at the same level as I am

You certainly have looked into the Illuminati thingy, huh?

That is where I got some of my info as well. I was directed there by a 'friend'.

armageddonconspiracy dot co dot uk/

I retract my former statement lol seems we've been on the same journey ac 32996962

Pretty interesting stuff. I read a good bit of it and it seemed pretty fair. I'm a scientist, so I value freedom to do what I want but I'm not driven mostly by money. Liberals value science pretty well. Conservatives value freedom. Who values both though? I usually end up having no one to root for, but the idea of a merit based system jives with my values to an extent.

I still think checks and balances are good and appreciate the god given rights and branches of govt. set up by the Constitution. That would probably be a good idea to achieve the goals you set out. You want real democracy and a world that responds to the people's needs. Sometimes we can't just put people in power and trust they'll do the right thing. We need to put in place structural checks so that no one branch is too powerful no matter what. That's the main idea of the U.S. Constitution I think and one that I think would be useful even if you don't agree with all the specific points of that document. The intent of basic inalienable rights for everyone and structural division of power is enlightened I think and one I would implement in a new system.

OP - Why are you here?

Well, many of these elites value freedom for themselves, but not so much for us. As you said, they will do anything to stay in power, it seems. One moment it's pro this one moment it's pro that. They don't care about Ayn Rand beyond what her statements can do for them. And mesmerizing people with various symbols and numbers and stuff to balkanize. They are a clever bunch. I guess you've got to do something with your time if you don't have to work a real job; They know which buttons to push.

Is saying "Fuck off, please!" not ridiculing, polite enough and full of belief for your refined tastes ?

Bullshit. Ayn has been raked over the coals by the "elite".

Since when are science and freedom diametrically opposed to one another?

A little misunderstanding and perhaps over-estimation: We do indeed control numerous sectors of the world, and manipulate certain events as 'conspiracies', yet we have not successfully changed the world thus far and all actions are supportive of such.

Here's an old excerpt from our communication protocol(s), currently obsolete when we've evolved to more sophisticated methods:



""
Only with Knowing May One See Underneath,
As with Reformation of the World,
Cutting the Sphere,

One Must Invert the Lowest,
Integrate unto the Highest,
Consolidate the Shape
Reside Over the Globe,

/\
O
~
\/

Revert the Weak,
Rise as One,
Reshape the World,
Singular Regime



Symbol is essentially /o\, with _ underneath, and it's the Earth inside the grasp of the organization. For signalling membership, it's to be signified, whether with the hand or consciously arranged shapes via the environment. The semiotics of this are simple and it's in two forms, assembled and dismantled. O is Earth, lower \/ (eliminated, inserted into top /\) is the unaware, negative humanity, /\ is us - the Illuminati - and the line underneath is a singular regime which was formerly ~ as the discord of nations currently divided.

Assembled Form: Clear to the world when expressed, but only we, as members, know the true meaning from the constituents when it's dismantled. It's normally for initiating contact as it's superficially exploited/abused in popular culture and the dismantled form is subsequently applied as secondary verification. This is our vision and ultimate objective.
Dismantled Form: Who we are and our position. Until we fully implement the envisaged objective, conveyed with the commonly known symbol related to us, this is our true identity until we succeed and this merges into the assembled form as one, securely so.
""

Verifying this account is mine and not an impersonator.

Why bother with all your stupid bullshit? How much money and power is enough? You've destroyed countless peoples lives and cultures, not to mention the planet. For what? What happens when we are all ruled? Retire? I can't see you succeeding. You are human, you make mistakes. Humans also have free will. You will fail.

The OV, I learned this when I first began, seemed so long ago.

Intresting response. It's one thing if that is your honest opinion as an individual. It's another if Rare Earth Hypothesis is something you guys generally want the populus to accept. Kinda gives a window into the agenda as far as that goes.

It's purely a personal opinion and I don't believe the Illuminati would have a consensus on it.

Take me to your leader

Ok, I'll bite:
If everything is joust, how is it joust and in how many columns?

OP, I can only assume that to be a part of a group with such an ambitious agenda as yours demands a whole lot of energy.

What exactly is your "thrill", if your members are powerful/rich people, why aren´t you enjoying - putting your life to a better use?