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Apparently Obama was convicted in Federal Court on the Birther Fraud issues

 
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Are we still talking about the shite. Really!

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Follow the King or heads will roll

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That's an illuminating picture...he looks totally sleazy.
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This is proposed order. It is not THE order.

There was no response so now it the ruling should go to the plaintiffs. This includes the RECOMMEND judgement from the plaintiffs. It is not signed by the judge.
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For what it's worth- I have not verified the referenced
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Bottom line is that Obama has a court date on February 15th with the entire cast of the SCOTUS.

Don't forget their ongoing battle cry... "You do not have standing."

It will be rather easy for the full court to say that this judge simply doesn't have standing in the case (without mentioning who does).

But from what I remember from my law classes long ago, only the full House of Representatives have standing against a sitting POTUS. It is their (and only their) right to bring an indictment against a POTUS. And that indictment is known as "Impeachment."
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Won't happen in the middle of a war conflict.....
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That is a proposed order written by OT...Judge hasn't signed it yet...
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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Bottom line is that Obama has a court date on February 15th with the entire cast of the SCOTUS.

Don't forget their ongoing battle cry... "You do not have standing."

It will be rather easy for the full court to say that this judge simply doesn't have standing in the case (without mentioning who does).

But from what I remember from my law classes long ago, only the full House of Representatives have standing against a sitting POTUS. It is their (and only their) right to bring an indictment against a POTUS. And that indictment is known as "Impeachment."
 Quoting: RockHall


You are correct. Parliament is the court of judgment where it members are accused of breaching its rules.

That particular prescription was also exported to the US in your adoption of the rules that govern Westminster.

At best, an American court can refer these matters to be considered by your House.

These rules were designed to deter frivolity and the consequent obstruction of day to day goverment.
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Well then we're fucked. The Congress won't do SHIT because they are all owned by TPTB.

What the FUCK can be done about this? Hell, it can be proven over and over that Obummer is a fraud, but if the damn Congress won't impeach him then what can be done?
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When I think that if this is true, then either McCain or Romney would be declared Pres. to replace him . . . . I hate to say that I hope it's all a crock.
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Well then we're fucked. The Congress won't do SHIT because they are all owned by TPTB.

What the FUCK can be done about this? Hell, it can be proven over and over that Obummer is a fraud, but if the damn Congress won't impeach him then what can be done?
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Thats assuming that whoever did the background checks on Obama when he was put forwad for a seat in the House was asleep at the time.

Impeachment is well nigh impossible unless there is clear evidence of an impeachable offence which was delibertaely hidden from the House. Entry to the House will go through one of the most sophisticated secret services in the world and consequently, I think these accusations are pretty much groundless.

Taitz is probably on the make for a fast buck and realises that she has a ready milking cow in a subject such as this. The best you can do is to be proactive at the next electons and make a convincing case for his replacement (oh wait, thats unnecessary as he will have run his terms in office.).

As a general point, banging on about his race, or the way he stands when he pisses does not help your case. No one but the pretty feebleminded would want to lay the future of their country in the hands of those who think like that.
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This should give good updates on the status...

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For what it's worth- I have not verified the referenced
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The findings indicate that Obama is a citizen of Indonesia.
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Frankly, I'm shocked it's anywhere on Earth.
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Why the hell is no one reporting on this?!?
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Because thet are all Jews, and that is who is tring to make you their slave.

You really didn;t know that? Wow
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Bottom line is that Obama has a court date on February 15th with the entire cast of the SCOTUS.

Don't forget their ongoing battle cry... "You do not have standing."

It will be rather easy for the full court to say that this judge simply doesn't have standing in the case (without mentioning who does).

But from what I remember from my law classes long ago, only the full House of Representatives have standing against a sitting POTUS. It is their (and only their) right to bring an indictment against a POTUS. And that indictment is known as "Impeachment."
 Quoting: RockHall


You are correct. Parliament is the court of judgment where it members are accused of breaching its rules.

That particular prescription was also exported to the US in your adoption of the rules that govern Westminster.

At best, an American court can refer these matters to be considered by your House.

These rules were designed to deter frivolity and the consequent obstruction of day to day goverment.
 Quoting: Marxist


That's not true, criminal offenses committed before his election are still within the pervue of the courts...they just can't sentence him until his term is complete.

And of course Civil Rights violations or other Constitutional Violations are definitely within the pervue of the courts...and Elections violations...

And there is always the fact that if he was never eligible to be President, then he never was President, meaning he can be arrested and imprisoned without Congressional Impeachment...

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Sorry, but these are not legal court documents. First, there are grammatical errors, something that you do not see in legal pleadings. Second, legal pleadings do not have multiple colors to highlight areas that one wants pointed out or emphasis on. Simple legal formatting is not even used.

I hate to say it, but I do not think this one is real. I would love to see the real one come to light, as I am sure it is out there somewhere.

Just my opinion though.
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Romney 16!
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that how many votes he got?
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I have not verified the referenced documents


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Oh really? lol bsflag
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Won't happen in the middle of a war conflict.....
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Putin-Obama collab you mean?

Gimme space yo! Gotcha bro.
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I love how you Tards always fall for this BS, getting your hopes up, just to be let down again and again...


Until I see him being led away in cuffs and Biden being sworn in....all else is BS
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Biden is the Anti-Christ?

Oh shit. It all makes sense now.
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That is not a signed order, only a proposed order. Orly hasn't gotten one of these signed.
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Yes, this is a filing in the case by Orly Taitz. It's not a ruling by the judge.

She came damn close in Georgia, was winning clearly on the merits, the judge even said so ... but then the judge took a couple weeks or months break, got "religion", and ruled against her anyway.
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document says it is being forwarded to House to see if impeachment is warranted as court agrees it appears obama is a citizen of Indonesia.
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They have been informed..

We Shall See (words NOT in the Holy Bible)
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This should give good updates on the status...

[link to www.gpo.gov]
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I think they aren't reading yours, thanks does put a nail in it!
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It's called an Indictment.
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For what it's worth- I have not verified the referenced
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Bottom line is that Obama has a court date on February 15th with the entire cast of the SCOTUS.

Don't forget their ongoing battle cry... "You do not have standing."

It will be rather easy for the full court to say that this judge simply doesn't have standing in the case (without mentioning who does).

But from what I remember from my law classes long ago, only the full House of Representatives have standing against a sitting POTUS. It is their (and only their) right to bring an indictment against a POTUS. And that indictment is known as "Impeachment."
 Quoting: RockHall


You are correct. Parliament is the court of judgment where it members are accused of breaching its rules.

That particular prescription was also exported to the US in your adoption of the rules that govern Westminster.

At best, an American court can refer these matters to be considered by your House.

These rules were designed to deter frivolity and the consequent obstruction of day to day goverment.
 Quoting: Marxist


That's not true, criminal offenses committed before his election are still within the pervue of the courts...they just can't sentence him until his term is complete.

And of course Civil Rights violations or other Constitutional Violations are definitely within the pervue of the courts...and Elections violations...

And there is always the fact that if he was never eligible to be President, then he never was President, meaning he can be arrested and imprisoned without Congressional Impeachment...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


It pays to read carefully. Parliament presides over the breaches of "ITS RULES". In other words, where a candidate enters the house under false pretenses or acts in a manner that exceeds the powers conferred on him by the house, the house determines the case as in that instance we are dealing with constitutional rules on how the house manages itself. So if he gave an undertaking to the house that he was eligible to be there for being a US born person and it transpires he was born elsewhere, it is the house that determines whether he warrants impeachment and a remedy.

However, were he to murder someone, then the house first sits to eject him and then refer him to the jurisdiction of the regular courts for consideration under the criminal law.

This is called due process which distinguishes us from the likes of say Saudi Arabia where you are arbitrarily subject to punishment on a whim simply because of someone's perception of you.

These protocols underlie our civilisation whether you like it or not.
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Bottom line is that Obama has a court date on February 15th with the entire cast of the SCOTUS.

Don't forget their ongoing battle cry... "You do not have standing."

It will be rather easy for the full court to say that this judge simply doesn't have standing in the case (without mentioning who does).

But from what I remember from my law classes long ago, only the full House of Representatives have standing against a sitting POTUS. It is their (and only their) right to bring an indictment against a POTUS. And that indictment is known as "Impeachment."
 Quoting: RockHall


You are correct. Parliament is the court of judgment where it members are accused of breaching its rules.

That particular prescription was also exported to the US in your adoption of the rules that govern Westminster.

At best, an American court can refer these matters to be considered by your House.

These rules were designed to deter frivolity and the consequent obstruction of day to day goverment.
 Quoting: Marxist


That's not true, criminal offenses committed before his election are still within the pervue of the courts...they just can't sentence him until his term is complete.

And of course Civil Rights violations or other Constitutional Violations are definitely within the pervue of the courts...and Elections violations...

And there is always the fact that if he was never eligible to be President, then he never was President, meaning he can be arrested and imprisoned without Congressional Impeachment...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


It pays to read carefully. Parliament presides over the breaches of "ITS RULES". In other words, where a candidate enters the house under false pretenses or acts in a manner that exceeds the powers conferred on him by the house, the house determines the case as in that instance we are dealing with constitutional rules on how the house manages itself. So if he gave an undertaking to the house that he was eligible to be there for being a US born person and it transpires he was born elsewhere, it is the house that determines whether he warrants impeachment and a remedy.

However, were he to murder someone, then the house first sits to eject him and then refer him to the jurisdiction of the regular courts for consideration under the criminal law.

This is called due process which distinguishes us from the likes of say Saudi Arabia where you are arbitrarily subject to punishment on a whim simply because of someone's perception of you.

These protocols underlie our civilisation whether you like it or not.
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This is termed the separation of powers. It would be a new day in Anglo-Saxon jurisprudence were a judicial body to step in and remove a member of the executive. That is always a matter for the house to do, even where a criminal offence (as opposed to a constitutional breach) rises for consideration.
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For what it's worth- I have not verified the referenced
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Sorry, but these are not legal court documents. First, there are grammatical errors, something that you do not see in legal pleadings. Second, legal pleadings do not have multiple colors to highlight areas that one wants pointed out or emphasis on. Simple legal formatting is not even used.

I hate to say it, but I do not think this one is real. I would love to see the real one come to light, as I am sure it is out there somewhere.

Just my opinion though.
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it does look like a hasty pudding, since the readable version is on scribd, and not a pdf of a court brief (the one in the video was not readable even in full screen.)

however, it sure is an eyeful.
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interesting that they said it was being forwarded to the "Judicial Commission" of the US Congress...not Committee.

would not "Judicial Commission" be a separate body from the Congress, perhaps the one associated with Supreme Court of the U.S. ?
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