The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31807846 United States 02/13/2013 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE he didn't have any hostages at the second house Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21548336 that was the first house Were there two cabins or only one? His ammo and weapons were in the first cabin, right? And then there was the car chase where he would only have what he had on him not his full cache. So, if there were two cabins, WHERE DID ALL THE AMMO COME FROM THAT WAS EXPLODING DURING THE FIRE??? The cabin he was hiding out in before the shootout was in the 1200 block of Club View Drive. What is the address of the cabin that was burned down? |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/13/2013 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE he didn't have any hostages at the second house Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21548336 that was the first house Were there two cabins or only one? His ammo and weapons were in the first cabin, right? And then there was the car chase where he would only have what he had on him not his full cache. So, if there were two cabins, WHERE DID ALL THE AMMO COME FROM THAT WAS EXPLODING DURING THE FIRE??? The cabin he was hiding out in before the shootout was in the 1200 block of Club View Drive. What is the address of the cabin that was burned down? not sure but the hostages were not at big bear from what im getting...left hostages,fish&wildlife spotted him driving he opened fire on them..carjacked truck from dude with dog,crashed truck or whatever and fled to the shootout place |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27778286 United States 02/13/2013 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Gotta love that his drivers license didnt burn up or completely melt in the fire that was too hot to search for hours. Quoting: TeamReaper Its always them IDs, passports ot drivers licenses, that make it. [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com] Thank you for saying something. Wasn't his WALLET found in San Diego, near the boat? How many of you keep your DL outside your Wallet (they knew it was his wallet..I'll look to see if I can find what was in it)? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3513427 United States 02/13/2013 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Big Bear Lake had mines. Mines have tunnels. He had the intelligence and plenty of time to study the mines and their tunnels. Some BB Lake mines: Quoting: Nine's Arctic Canyon Pit Balanced Rock Mine Bessemer Mine Blackhawk Mine Blue Quartz Mine Cushenbury Pit Doble Mine Gold Hill Mine Green Rock Mine Greenlead Mine Harvey K Mine Liberty Mine Marble Canyon Pit Mohawk Mine Monte Cristo Mine Onyx Mine Rose Mine Santa Fe Mine Silver Reef Mine Texas Rock Quarry Wright Mine You are kidding right? He's studying underground mines and is hiding in them? Ridiculous. Why do you think that is ridiculous? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15939579 United States 02/13/2013 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE he didn't have any hostages at the second house Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21548336 that was the first house Were there two cabins or only one? His ammo and weapons were in the first cabin, right? And then there was the car chase where he would only have what he had on him not his full cache. So, if there were two cabins, WHERE DID ALL THE AMMO COME FROM THAT WAS EXPLODING DURING THE FIRE??? The cabin he was hiding out in before the shootout was in the 1200 block of Club View Drive. What is the address of the cabin that was burned down? not sure but the hostages were not at big bear from what im getting...left hostages,fish&wildlife spotted him driving he opened fire on them..carjacked truck from dude with dog,crashed truck or whatever and fled to the shootout place Where the hostages a couple or cleaning ladies? A witness who says he's a relative of a couple tied up by a suspect told ABC7 that the pair was not injured |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27778286 United States 02/13/2013 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Gotta love that his drivers license didnt burn up or completely melt in the fire that was too hot to search for hours. Quoting: TeamReaper Its always them IDs, passports ot drivers licenses, that make it. [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com] Thank you for saying something. Wasn't his WALLET found in San Diego, near the boat? How many of you keep your DL outside your Wallet (they knew it was his wallet..I'll look to see if I can find what was in it)? All I can find was the wallet was turned in by a shuttle driving near the airport with a badge and photo id. It didn't say the photo ID was a DL. Still odd. Part of his ploy, most likely. Setting it up that he was either flying or boating out of SD. |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/13/2013 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Big Bear Lake had mines. Mines have tunnels. He had the intelligence and plenty of time to study the mines and their tunnels. Some BB Lake mines: Quoting: Nine's Arctic Canyon Pit Balanced Rock Mine Bessemer Mine Blackhawk Mine Blue Quartz Mine Cushenbury Pit Doble Mine Gold Hill Mine Green Rock Mine Greenlead Mine Harvey K Mine Liberty Mine Marble Canyon Pit Mohawk Mine Monte Cristo Mine Onyx Mine Rose Mine Santa Fe Mine Silver Reef Mine Texas Rock Quarry Wright Mine You are kidding right? He's studying underground mines and is hiding in them? Ridiculous. Why do you think that is ridiculous? no,but people that lived in the house said it had escape routes from the basement...one was a fireman that grew up there |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3513427 United States 02/13/2013 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Just an aside..... Quoting: Rose 34336710 Haven't been following this because it wreaks of bs, but just wondering, have any of his family been interviewed or friends. Apart from us being told who he is, has this been corroborated (legitimately or otherwise) by the media? Just curious? Would not the press be clamouring to get to his next of kin? Are we to again swallow yet another narrative culminating in the "bogey man" not being able to be publicly identified like with Osama? Media put up a picture of his mother's house, which was being searched with a warrant. Also, a pic of Dorner's house in Las Vegas, which was said to have also been searched. The picture of Dorner's house showed his truck outside so I don't know when the pic was taken. |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/13/2013 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE he didn't have any hostages at the second house Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21548336 that was the first house Were there two cabins or only one? His ammo and weapons were in the first cabin, right? And then there was the car chase where he would only have what he had on him not his full cache. So, if there were two cabins, WHERE DID ALL THE AMMO COME FROM THAT WAS EXPLODING DURING THE FIRE??? The cabin he was hiding out in before the shootout was in the 1200 block of Club View Drive. What is the address of the cabin that was burned down? not sure but the hostages were not at big bear from what im getting...left hostages,fish&wildlife spotted him driving he opened fire on them..carjacked truck from dude with dog,crashed truck or whatever and fled to the shootout place Where the hostages a couple or cleaning ladies? A witness who says he's a relative of a couple tied up by a suspect told ABC7 that the pair was not injured from what i gathered the cleaning ladies worked for the woman taken hostage |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27778286 United States 02/13/2013 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Big Bear Lake had mines. Mines have tunnels. He had the intelligence and plenty of time to study the mines and their tunnels. Some BB Lake mines: Quoting: Nine's Arctic Canyon Pit Balanced Rock Mine Bessemer Mine Blackhawk Mine Blue Quartz Mine Cushenbury Pit Doble Mine Gold Hill Mine Green Rock Mine Greenlead Mine Harvey K Mine Liberty Mine Marble Canyon Pit Mohawk Mine Monte Cristo Mine Onyx Mine Rose Mine Santa Fe Mine Silver Reef Mine Texas Rock Quarry Wright Mine You are kidding right? He's studying underground mines and is hiding in them? Ridiculous. Why do you think that is ridiculous? There was one man who had called in to a news station, not the owner of the cabin or her son. He said the cabin had a huge basement. Didn't mention any tunnel, though. This was during the shooting, so not sure if LAPD heard it or was told. |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/13/2013 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Big Bear Lake had mines. Mines have tunnels. He had the intelligence and plenty of time to study the mines and their tunnels. Some BB Lake mines: Quoting: Nine's Arctic Canyon Pit Balanced Rock Mine Bessemer Mine Blackhawk Mine Blue Quartz Mine Cushenbury Pit Doble Mine Gold Hill Mine Green Rock Mine Greenlead Mine Harvey K Mine Liberty Mine Marble Canyon Pit Mohawk Mine Monte Cristo Mine Onyx Mine Rose Mine Santa Fe Mine Silver Reef Mine Texas Rock Quarry Wright Mine You are kidding right? He's studying underground mines and is hiding in them? Ridiculous. Why do you think that is ridiculous? There was one man who had called in to a news station, not the owner of the cabin or her son. He said the cabin had a huge basement. Didn't mention any tunnel, though. This was during the shooting, so not sure if LAPD heard it or was told. when it was all going down it was said that fireman that grew up there made them aware that there was a 12x15 basement then later they mentioned that he mentioned that it had escape routes from it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29928491 United States 02/13/2013 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Just an aside..... Quoting: Rose 34336710 Haven't been following this because it wreaks of bs, but just wondering, have any of his family been interviewed or friends. Apart from us being told who he is, has this been corroborated (legitimately or otherwise) by the media? Just curious? Would not the press be clamouring to get to his next of kin? Are we to again swallow yet another narrative culminating in the "bogey man" not being able to be publicly identified like with Osama? there are reports of his mom spotted at a bar watching the shootout while eating chip n dips |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/13/2013 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE one route lead to stable...thats where all the horse talk in thread comes in the thread from yesterday with all posts and comments like 150+pages read through it and will help a lot...theres links to scanner archives and everything |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/13/2013 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Just an aside..... Quoting: Rose 34336710 Haven't been following this because it wreaks of bs, but just wondering, have any of his family been interviewed or friends. Apart from us being told who he is, has this been corroborated (legitimately or otherwise) by the media? Just curious? Would not the press be clamouring to get to his next of kin? Are we to again swallow yet another narrative culminating in the "bogey man" not being able to be publicly identified like with Osama? there are reports of his mom spotted at a bar watching the shootout while eating chip n dips yep drinking too lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21755646 United States 02/13/2013 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE he didn't have any hostages at the second house Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21548336 that was the first house Were there two cabins or only one? His ammo and weapons were in the first cabin, right? And then there was the car chase where he would only have what he had on him not his full cache. So, if there were two cabins, WHERE DID ALL THE AMMO COME FROM THAT WAS EXPLODING DURING THE FIRE??? The cabin he was hiding out in before the shootout was in the 1200 block of Club View Drive. What is the address of the cabin that was burned down? great question. he couldn't have been running around with all of it. couldn't have been zipping back and forth from one cabin to the other transporting stuff all this time. so which is it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3513427 United States 02/13/2013 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE There was a newspaper reporter there in the middle of this yesterday afternoon, about 4:30 est. Several posts on the long thread from yesterday. That reporter can clear up some of the timeline, who was where and which place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3513427 If I can find the name and the paper he works for, I'll come back and post it here. [link to www.youtube.com] You have probably seen it by now, but above is a link to the video of shootout taken by the reporter. |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/13/2013 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE There was a newspaper reporter there in the middle of this yesterday afternoon, about 4:30 est. Several posts on the long thread from yesterday. That reporter can clear up some of the timeline, who was where and which place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3513427 If I can find the name and the paper he works for, I'll come back and post it here. [link to www.youtube.com] You have probably seen it by now, but above is a link to the video of shootout taken by the reporter. thats fake..he disappeared fast...something evans...he just happend to be there when the first gunfight broke out and recorded it on phone lol |
Corn Dog User ID: 28518686 United States 02/13/2013 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Dorner was a fucking seal, he is not stupid enough to barricade himself without some escape route... He was trained for high risk situations and I believe he escaped through underground tunnel systems... DORNER STILL ALIVE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33226973 What??? When did he become a SEAL? He was a Naval Reservist. I feel like I am reading CNN- they had him as a lethal sniper. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2877009 United States 02/13/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Gotta love that his drivers license didnt burn up or completely melt in the fire that was too hot to search for hours. Quoting: TeamReaper Its always them IDs, passports ot drivers licenses, that make it. [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com] THIS!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All of this guys...common sense I guess is not common no more eh? A human body cannot be determined BUT a PLASTIC ID somehow is salvagable??? Crazy times. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9636450 United States 02/13/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Hostage discussion thread was already posted here -- Thread: What happened to Dorner's Hostage? |
CalmShock User ID: 5056346 Canada 02/13/2013 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE he didn't have any hostages at the second house Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21548336 that was the first house Were there two cabins or only one? His ammo and weapons were in the first cabin, right? And then there was the car chase where he would only have what he had on him not his full cache. So, if there were two cabins, WHERE DID ALL THE AMMO COME FROM THAT WAS EXPLODING DURING THE FIRE??? The cabin he was hiding out in before the shootout was in the 1200 block of Club View Drive. What is the address of the cabin that was burned down? Seven Oaks Road just off of highway 38 Doesn't give the exact address, just the road. [link to lakeelsinore-wildomar.patch.com] Patience is a virtue I just can't wait to achieve - CalmShock |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 906056 United States 02/13/2013 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE he didn't have any hostages at the second house Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21548336 that was the first house Were there two cabins or only one? His ammo and weapons were in the first cabin, right? And then there was the car chase where he would only have what he had on him not his full cache. So, if there were two cabins, WHERE DID ALL THE AMMO COME FROM THAT WAS EXPLODING DURING THE FIRE??? The cabin he was hiding out in before the shootout was in the 1200 block of Club View Drive. What is the address of the cabin that was burned down? [link to 7oaksmtncabins.com] 700 Seven Oaks Rd Angelus Oaks, CA 92305 ph: 909-794-1277 |
CalmShock User ID: 5056346 Canada 02/13/2013 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE he didn't have any hostages at the second house Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21548336 that was the first house Were there two cabins or only one? His ammo and weapons were in the first cabin, right? And then there was the car chase where he would only have what he had on him not his full cache. So, if there were two cabins, WHERE DID ALL THE AMMO COME FROM THAT WAS EXPLODING DURING THE FIRE??? The cabin he was hiding out in before the shootout was in the 1200 block of Club View Drive. What is the address of the cabin that was burned down? [link to 7oaksmtncabins.com] 700 Seven Oaks Rd Angelus Oaks, CA 92305 ph: 909-794-1277 40700 Seven Oaks Rd. [link to maps.google.ca (secure)] Patience is a virtue I just can't wait to achieve - CalmShock |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 906056 United States 02/13/2013 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE he didn't have any hostages at the second house Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21548336 that was the first house Were there two cabins or only one? His ammo and weapons were in the first cabin, right? And then there was the car chase where he would only have what he had on him not his full cache. So, if there were two cabins, WHERE DID ALL THE AMMO COME FROM THAT WAS EXPLODING DURING THE FIRE??? The cabin he was hiding out in before the shootout was in the 1200 block of Club View Drive. What is the address of the cabin that was burned down? [link to 7oaksmtncabins.com] 700 Seven Oaks Rd Angelus Oaks, CA 92305 ph: 909-794-1277 opps I missed a few #'s on the address...it's 40700 Seven Oaks Rd Angelus Oaks, CA 92305 |
CalmShock User ID: 5056346 Canada 02/13/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Just look at the irony here... "The Lodge is our recreation room with a ping pong table and a large fireplace (that can be used when the fire danger is low)" [link to 7oaksmtncabins.com] Maybe a tunnel was built as a fire safety precaution... Patience is a virtue I just can't wait to achieve - CalmShock |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31807846 United States 02/13/2013 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE opps I missed a few #'s on the address...it's Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906056 40700 Seven Oaks Rd Angelus Oaks, CA 92305 Ok, about 13 miles apart, so again where did the ammo come from that was exploding during the fire? He just had a shootout, so you would think he couldn't have that much ammo on him and he possibly had very little left on him. |
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