So, You Think Jesus Can't Save You? Not Good Enough For Him?

Of course, I dont' want to disappoint you.

I can only speak for myself. You notice I did clearly state my fleshly/carnal side.....

You are absolutely right.. Jesus would not be happy with my comment. I accept full responsibility for that. Although I do believe He understands my frustrations. I have asked for forgiveness and ask Lisa*Lisa to forgive me for being a brat on her thread... as well as anyone else I may have offended.

The truth is.. my anger is with the great "deceiver "thief" and the "master liar".

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places". Eph. 6:12

I am a feisty, passionate personality and sometimes it gets away from me. My love and gratitude for the Lord are sincere however. I absolutely undeniably adore Him and there is not a day that goes by that I am not immensely thankful for all He has done for me.

Kindly forgive me until the next time.. I am fairly sure it will happen again.... Not intentionally.. most people are a work in progress. I am that and then some.

Sorry Lisa.. this is such a beautiful thread. I feel very bad to have brought any ick upon it.

I can only speak for myself. You notice I did clearly state my fleshly/carnal side.....

You are absolutely right.. Jesus would not be happy with my comment. I accept full responsibility for that. Although I do believe He understands my frustrations. I have asked for forgiveness and ask Lisa*Lisa to forgive me for being a brat on her thread... as well as anyone else I may have offended.

The truth is.. my anger is with the great "deceiver "thief" and the "master liar".

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places". Eph. 6:12

I am a feisty, passionate personality and sometimes it gets away from me. My love and gratitude for the Lord are sincere however. I absolutely undeniably adore Him and there is not a day that goes by that I am not immensely thankful for all He has done for me.

Kindly forgive me until the next time.. I am fairly sure it will happen again.... Not intentionally.. most people are a work in progress. I am that and then some.

Sorry Lisa.. this is such a beautiful thread. I feel very bad to have brought any ick upon it.

There is nothing to forgive. We all say/do things we wish we had not.
The important thing is that we ponder things and always stay open to correction, no matter what thing/person/word it comes through.
I believe that all things work to our betterment.
The Only real difference is I believe that the creator created us and resides at our core, and you believe we are sinful and worthless, needing Jesus to cover us.
Even Jesus said the kingdom is inside us.
I believe we will both eventually end up "with" god, you believe I can not.

So are you agreeing with me? You say "and if blood is still required of the unbelieving and hating then let them come for me"?

I am making a way for both sides to be satisfied.

Great thread, Lisa!

Jesus was speaking to the chief priests and elders of the people when He said the following:

Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you." (Matthew 21:31)

Who are those that represent the chief priests and elders today?

Who would Jesus direct that verse to today?

Salvation is experienced by those who truly repent, and who are those who will truly repent?

"When the teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw him eating with the "sinners" and tax collectors, they asked his disciples: "Why does he eat with tax collectors and 'sinners'?

On hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

Those, who in their own opinion, believe themselves to be free from disease, in this case, the disease of sin, feel they have no need of the Physician.

Before any doctor can help you, you must admit that you have a problem, go for help, and accept the treatment.

A good doctor will always tell you the truth about your condition.

This is what Jesus, our Great Physician, came to do. To tell us that we are not spiritually well.

We have a fatal disease called sin.

That is the diagnosis, and He is the cure.

Jesus said, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. But go and learn what this means,
'I desire mercy and not sacrifice.' For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance". (Matt. 9:12-13)

One is more likely to become saved if he realizes he needs to be saved.

One is more likely to be healed when he realizes he is sick and needs the the help of the Physician.

Once you embrace a recognition of your sin and become truly sorrowful for it, you will truly repent.

Yes, the weary people in the world know they are broken and in need of saving. The ones who think they don't are the ones that won't make it, unfortunately.



I had a vision maybe a year ago......about the broken people. Copied and pasted below.

Broken

I saw Jesus, and then I saw a whole crowd of people coming to Him with smiles on their faces. All of the people were broken in one way or another. They had been hurt by the world, themselves, and others. They were tired and weary.

Some in wheelchairs, some on crutches, some with open wounds and bandages.

All were making their way to Him and He was welcoming them with a smile and outstretched arms.

Very interesting.

That is what a peacemaker does.

Are you actually here to learn something, or to just troll and harass?

People can believe that they need to be guided on the right path, but don't believe that it is blood sacrifice that does that for you.
What happens to them?

And the difference between that poster trolling your, vs you trolling this entire conspiracy site is what? That's right, not one goddamn thing.

Like I said earlier on pg 6, you are too fucking blind and ignorant to see that you bring the animosity against you upon yourself. It is your own doing, so shut the fuck up.

I'm not so much sorry for what I said as I am the way it came out. I know what I meant but it should not have been said merely because it was so easy to pounce upon, thus given footing to the enemy (I am referring to my "fly on the wall" comment).

Sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain engages.

As far as the rest of your comment, yes we embrace different beliefs.

Have read bible through 2xs times. Study it daily.

Request you show me the spefific verses that back what you say. If you dont know where they are just say so instead of your snooty answer.

Not a "snooty" answer, it was the truth.

Not a "snooty" answer, it was the truth.

So you just worded it wrong? You feel bad because you gave the enemy something to call you out on?
So following Jesus example does not matter?
It is his free pass into heaven that saves you but sends me to hell?
I used to believe that way too.