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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27366914 United States 03/03/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | welcome to the real world, kiddo, some of us have known this for decades save for the relatively new anti-cancer stuff, but I know people who've experienced medical miracles using the stuff. miracles. so that new data is proven, Rick Simpson Oil works. Cheers, John Detroit |
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AtsuiPanda User ID: 16510251 United States 03/03/2013 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes, we know ^^, only problem i have had with it is , sometimes it makes my type of anxiety bad , but not usually. still smoke sometimes. :/sdfhasdfshasd/: Those who live by the sword die by the sword, those who don't live by the sword are subject to those who do. |
Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/03/2013 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in? Who proved it, when? I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14516845 United States 03/03/2013 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in? Who proved it, when? I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing. Boy are you naive... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35375236 United States 03/03/2013 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in? Who proved it, when? I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing. hahahahahaha...you actually think they would blast this on msm? do you not how much cheaper cannabis is than chemo? do you know how much of a giant hit big pharma would take if they started admitting you could grow your own medicine? not to mention this would mean more money for farmers than doctors....we can not have up set in the social status they have created...jeez dude where have you been? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 03/03/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in? Who proved it, when? I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing. Remove your head from the sand... The federal government grows marijuana at the University of Mississippi and the FDA actually ships medical marijuana to 4 American citizens who in the late 70's and early 80's were granted access to marijuana out of medical necessity! There were originally 14 some odd patients to had qualified before George Bush Sr. stepped in and shut the program down to appease special interest groups. 4 of those Americans are still alive today and receive a tin of 300 pre-rolled joints each month from the Food & Drug Administration. All while the Feds proclaim that marijuana has no accepted medicinal value! The AMA (American Medical Association) even asked the Feds to re-classify marijuana and remove it's Schedule 1 status and the Feds don't give a shit about reality nor the hypocrisy of the fact that they ship medical marijuana to American citizens while telling the states they are violating Federal Law! |
Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/03/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in? Who proved it, when? I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing. Boy are you naive... hahahahahaha...you actually think they would blast this on msm? do you not how much cheaper cannabis is than chemo? do you know how much of a giant hit big pharma would take if they started admitting you could grow your own medicine? not to mention this would mean more money for farmers than doctors....we can not have up set in the social status they have created...jeez dude where have you been? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35375236 OP said it was "Proven to cure cancer" I am just asking who/what/where/when/how this was proven. Okay, here's the thing, logically: Logically, if someone has "proven" this, and the op is aware of this proof, than the proof is out there for examination, else OP wouldn't be able to state it has been Proven. "proof" = Scientific studies that can be replicated in a controlled environment held to the highest medical and scientific standards. I'm not naive, I am just eager to be as "in the loop" as OP. I would LOVE a cure to cancer, as I probably have 3 developing as we speak. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
uphigh User ID: 9654053 United States 03/03/2013 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Folks, isn't it time for a modern day "Johnny Appleseed"? This time he can cross the globe planting his seeds. But maybe we should ponder the seed he should be planting . Any ideas? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7111119 You know...I have pondered such an idea. What I think might work would be to cross the plant with a plant with similar character that spreads like wild fire, think scottsbroom or dandelions. It would take some trial and error but it could be done. Then when its growing in every highway median from NY to LA they will have no choice but to relent. In fact it would "not" even have to get you high, it just needs to look identical to marijuana in the vegetative state. You see the treatment hemp gets just because it looks like pot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 03/03/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes, we know ^^, only problem i have had with it is , sometimes it makes my type of anxiety bad , but not usually. still smoke sometimes. Quoting: AtsuiPanda Sad thing is if it were legal you would have options and access to strains (like Indica strains) that do not produce a head or cognitive 'high' and therefore would not exacerbate your anxious feelings. Heck you would even have access to forms of cannabis that remove the psychoactive effects of marijuana altogether if you wanted and were just pursuing pain management or the other health effects provided by the plant. |
Cat.Man.Deux User ID: 35450483 United States 03/03/2013 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try several different strains of weed. One may make you paranoid, where another won't. Some may leave you MUNCHY-CRAZED. With some you don't much care about bloody ANYTHING. This is why we "experiment" with this drug. Of course this is something that I've ONLY done in Colorado & Washington. Last Edited by Cat.Man.Deux on 03/03/2013 01:26 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10327591 United States 03/03/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in? Who proved it, when? I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing. Boy are you naive... No naive, but a troll. Everyone knows that medical journals and studies are expensive to fund and are only funded by big pharma. If big pharma can't patent it (which they can't), then the study will never see the light of day. Duh! All information is controlled, it is up to each of us to see that and sift for the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 03/03/2013 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP said it was "Proven to cure cancer" Quoting: Holy_Diver I am just asking who/what/where/when/how this was proven. Okay, here's the thing, logically: Logically, if someone has "proven" this, and the op is aware of this proof, than the proof is out there for examination, else OP wouldn't be able to state it has been Proven. "proof" = Scientific studies that can be replicated in a controlled environment held to the highest medical and scientific standards. I'm not naive, I am just eager to be as "in the loop" as OP. I would LOVE a cure to cancer, as I probably have 3 developing as we speak. Don't be lazy you have the internet and all of the information at your fingertips whenever you want to search for it. You don't need anyone to furnish this information for you. [link to www.sciencedaily.com] Apr. 9, 2009 — Guillermo Velasco and colleagues, at Complutense University, Spain, have provided evidence that suggests that cannabinoids such as the main active component of marijuana (THC) have anticancer effects on human brain cancer cells. In the study, THC was found to induce the death of various human brain cancer cell lines and primary cultured human brain cancer cells by a process known as autophagy. --------------------------------- [link to www.washingtonpost.com] The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer. The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years. "We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect." ---------------------------------------- There are countless other studies and published findings from around the world for you to read if you would only search for them. THC/Cannabis has long been known to have anti-tumor effects on the body. By the Federal Government classifying it as a Schedule 1 narcotic they prevent the medical community (in the U.S.) from conducting expansive research into all of it's medical applications and uses. It is very difficult for research groups to conduct tests with marijuana due to the Federal policy but such restrictions do not exist in foreign countries where doctors and scientists are freely permitted to explore all of the applications of cannabis/THC ingestion. Private interest groups & corporations dictate the policies of this country and the pharmaceutical industrt, the private prison industry, law enforcement industry, and the alcohol industry have the politicians in their pockets and DO NOT want to see cannabis legalized and provided to Americans who wish to use it either recreationally or for medicinal applications... They don't care about the anti-cancer effects nor any of the other health benefits that a human being could gain from having access to it..... All they care about in their MONEY and that's what dictates the Federal stance on marijuana legality. |
Kirk User ID: 25384388 United States 03/03/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in? Who proved it, when? I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing. anecdotal some good testimony though. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/03/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No naive, but a troll. Everyone knows that medical journals and studies are expensive to fund and are only funded by big pharma. If big pharma can't patent it (which they can't), then the study will never see the light of day. Duh! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10327591 All information is controlled, it is up to each of us to see that and sift for the truth. How am I a troll if OP says "Proven to cure cancer" and I'm asking for the information source where OP gets the courage to make this claim? What YOU are saying is that OP is wrong, and it's not proven to cure cancer or anything else. So instead of calling me a troll, why not just tell me there isn't any Proof at all, only anecdotal evidence at best? If you feel I'm exposing some sort of inadequecy and this brings shame, that's not my fault. I'm "Joe on the street" looking for a cancer cure and what you and OP are doing is pulling up in a Road-show cart, rolling up the side window, and saying "Step right up, folks, it'll cure what ails ye!" I mean, it's classic, really. What's worse is that neither of you are actually selling the product, but you're doing the work second-hand for the snake oil salesman. Pathetic! So, one more time, if there's actual proof like OP says, where can I find it? Understanding, of course, that the definition of proof lies within the scientific method. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35500719 Spain 03/03/2013 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No naive, but a troll. Everyone knows that medical journals and studies are expensive to fund and are only funded by big pharma. If big pharma can't patent it (which they can't), then the study will never see the light of day. Duh! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10327591 All information is controlled, it is up to each of us to see that and sift for the truth. How am I a troll if OP says "Proven to cure cancer" and I'm asking for the information source where OP gets the courage to make this claim? What YOU are saying is that OP is wrong, and it's not proven to cure cancer or anything else. So instead of calling me a troll, why not just tell me there isn't any Proof at all, only anecdotal evidence at best? If you feel I'm exposing some sort of inadequecy and this brings shame, that's not my fault. I'm "Joe on the street" looking for a cancer cure and what you and OP are doing is pulling up in a Road-show cart, rolling up the side window, and saying "Step right up, folks, it'll cure what ails ye!" I mean, it's classic, really. What's worse is that neither of you are actually selling the product, but you're doing the work second-hand for the snake oil salesman. Pathetic! So, one more time, if there's actual proof like OP says, where can I find it? Understanding, of course, that the definition of proof lies within the scientific method. Shuffle your empirical and academic proof and support down your rear pipe. "And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." |
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Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/03/2013 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Private interest groups & corporations dictate the policies of this country and the pharmaceutical company, the private prison industry, and the alcohol industry have the politicians in their pockets and DO NOT want to see cannabis legalized and provided to Americans who wish to use it either recreationally or for medicinal applications... They don't care about the anti-cancer effects nor any of the other health benefits that a human being could gain from having access to it..... All they care about in their MONEY.... Quoting: ANHEDONIC I would never argue against anything in this portion of your statement. Well, except that Big Tobacco somehow allowed Chantix to hit the market. What happened there, did Big Tobacco fall asleep at the wheel? Or Did Rob Reiner cough up ten dollars to the right senator to get this med passed through? I'm not sure how it works, but Chantix would be one example as an honest-to-goodness Pharma product that does what it says with virtually no side-effects. Not only can I direct you to proof of this without calling you a troll or lazy, I can ALSO provide personal anecdotal evidence along with my wife's testimony. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35500719 Spain 03/03/2013 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in? Who proved it, when? I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing. Boy are you naive... hahahahahaha...you actually think they would blast this on msm? do you not how much cheaper cannabis is than chemo? do you know how much of a giant hit big pharma would take if they started admitting you could grow your own medicine? not to mention this would mean more money for farmers than doctors....we can not have up set in the social status they have created...jeez dude where have you been? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35375236 OP said it was "Proven to cure cancer" I am just asking who/what/where/when/how this was proven. Okay, here's the thing, logically: Logically, if someone has "proven" this, and the op is aware of this proof, than the proof is out there for examination, else OP wouldn't be able to state it has been Proven. "proof" = Scientific studies that can be replicated in a controlled environment held to the highest medical and scientific standards. I'm not naive, I am just eager to be as "in the loop" as OP. I would LOVE a cure to cancer, as I probably have 3 developing as we speak. Pathetic!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33273832 United States 03/03/2013 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (Watch the video's below....) Quoting: Rtruth Marijuana cannabinoids are actually a form of natural medicine. They're actually good for you. Smoking weed is actually a way to cure a lot of things I think. And the oil has been proven to cure cancer. I think we've been completely brainwashed in school to believe it's bad for you. Modern research proves it not! "Medical cannabis refers to the parts of the herb cannabis used as a physician-recommended form of medicine or herbal therapy.... The Cannabis plant has a long history of use as medicine, with historical evidence dating back to 2737 BCE.[1] Cannabis is one of the 50 "fundamental" herbs of traditional Chinese medicine,[2] and is prescribed for a broad range of indications." Source:.... wikipedia [link to en.wikipedia.org] Those dr's would have killed those parents kids! HELLO! Agreed...The thing that has always got me is the hypocrisy that buying and drinking alcohol( AND DRIVING) is deemed acceptable but using an HERB is some terrible taboo drug.....this is out and out bullshit and everyone who thinks for themselves knows it. The effects of cannabis are very controllable but go drink a 6 pak of beer and see what happens.The alcohol and the herb laws should be reversed.We are be dictated to by a bunch of hypocrites. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 03/03/2013 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.examiner.com] Over the last decade there have been numerous publications demonstrating the anti-cancer effects of plant and synthetic cannabinoids. Notably, the main ingredient of Cannabis, THC (tetrahydrocannabinol), has demonstrated the ability to kill multiple types of cancers in a variety of cancer research models. CBD (cannabidiol), another common plant component, has also shown the ability to kill cancer cells, recently it has been used to successfully treat breast cancer in a mouse research model of the disease. Certain types of brain cancer appear to be vulnerable to cannabinoids such as THC and CBD. Scientific research has demonstrated that THC and other cannabinoids can kill extremely aggressive brain cancers known as glioblastoma multiforme (GBM) or grade IV astrocytomas. (there are more links to studies/findings referenced at the bottom of the article) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 03/03/2013 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Private interest groups & corporations dictate the policies of this country and the pharmaceutical company, the private prison industry, and the alcohol industry have the politicians in their pockets and DO NOT want to see cannabis legalized and provided to Americans who wish to use it either recreationally or for medicinal applications... They don't care about the anti-cancer effects nor any of the other health benefits that a human being could gain from having access to it..... All they care about in their MONEY.... Quoting: ANHEDONIC I would never argue against anything in this portion of your statement. Well, except that Big Tobacco somehow allowed Chantix to hit the market. What happened there, did Big Tobacco fall asleep at the wheel? Or Did Rob Reiner cough up ten dollars to the right senator to get this med passed through? I'm not sure how it works, but Chantix would be one example as an honest-to-goodness Pharma product that does what it says with virtually no side-effects. Not only can I direct you to proof of this without calling you a troll or lazy, I can ALSO provide personal anecdotal evidence along with my wife's testimony. Okay but how does this address the main subject of the discussion at hand? The point is that THC/cannabis has significant/substantial medicinal applications and yet the Federal government classifies it as a Schedule 1 narcotic (meaning no accepted medicinal uses) but as I demonstrated above with the RT News video, the FDA mails medical marijuana to 4 U.S. citizens..... Irv Rosenfeld proved to a Federal judge that he would go blind if he did not consume marijuana due to his glaucoma and he proved it with the testimony of his doctors.... Why is Irv Rosenfeld 1 of ony 4 U.S citizens out of 300 million who is permitted federally approved access to a drug that saves his eye sight and provides for his health and well being? Surely you can see the blatant hypocrisy in this? How many American citizens have needlessly suffered from their varous illnesses/ailments while being prevented from having access to a natural herb/plant that could provide them with the relief that they deserve? |
Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/03/2013 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shuffle your empirical and academic proof and support down your rear pipe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35500719 "And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Right, we should shun academics. Good call. I'll bet you're an atheist too, right? That would be funny. Anhedonic (I think) Yes, I saw you had some links there. I am satisfied that there are things we should study about Marijuana/Cannabis/THC etc and I have no doubt that the studies you've linked to support that. However, there are no studies, anywhere, that conclusively proove that "Marijuana cannabinoids cure cancer". Wild-Assed claims like this by Woody Harrleson wannabes are not going to help the cause any and just makes the entire scene look flakey, which really...let's face it...they don't need any assistance looking flakey. You really want to effect change? Don't worry about me, take your effort and start a lobby and put your money where your mouth is. If Big Pharma lobbies against pot, start a grass-roots organization to collect more money than they are willing to spend to suppress it, and buy your own politicians and overturn the empire. You can recoup your time/investment by investing in companies that are working with Marijuana in the lab looking for cures. Sound good? :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/03/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay but how does this address the main subject of the discussion at hand? The point is that THC/cannabis has significant/substantial medicinal applications and yet the Federal government classifies it as a Schedule 1 narcotic (meaning no accepted medicinal uses) yet as I demonstrated above with the RT News video, the FDA mails medical marijuana to 4 U.S. citizens..... Irv Rosenfeld proved to a Federal judge that he would go blind if he did not consume marijuana due to his glaucoma and he proved it with the testimony of his doctors.... Why is Irv Rosenfeld 1 of ony 4 U.S citizens out of 300 million who is permitted federally approved access to a drug that saves his eye sight and provides for his health and well being? Quoting: ANHEDONIC I could've sworn there were other, more effective long-term treatments for glaucoma (I was a 91b Medical Specialist assigned to rotation in Optamology/Opthamology clinic for nearly one year at Ft. Ben Harrison, Indiana.) I know we weren't handing out Joints, which (if memory serves) temporarily subjugates the glaucoma creating a endless loop of marijuana usage. It sounds to me like a Judge wants his pot and has a Doctor he probably golfs with sign off on it. Saying "I needs my pot for my glaucoma" is a bit like saying you need your Tonic for your scurvey. Not in 2013. This is a problem with Medicinal Pot: People want to get high. There are idiots out there who would hold tape five cellphones to their heads 24/7 so they could get their brain-tumor pot on-the-fly. I think before we hit street with Medical Pot, we should also figure out how to neutralize the euphoric effect so patients will not be effected mentally by their treatment. Then I'm all on board. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |