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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 03/09/2013 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint ... Quoting: Salt considering that their philosophy is satanic in origin, it might not make you a satanist if you like it, but it will if you follow it O. So just to clarify 'the logos' is Satan? in reference to what? in scripture it is Jesus Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element? before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons. the Logos is the Word of God In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter. the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3398747 United States 03/09/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint I saw a picture of my favorite drummer with this on one of his drum heads: URIEL R___E I___I E___R LEIRU And the rest of the spaces in the cube were filled in with some names that I would recognize, but cannot remember right now. I found it to be highly intriguing. /offtopic |
Sir France's Beercan User ID: 1245590 Austria 03/09/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element? before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons. the Logos is the Word of God In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 03/09/2013 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element? before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons. the Logos is the Word of God In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter. the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it. its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools. just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35183941 United States 03/09/2013 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint I'm not quite sure of the connections yet, but you figure that the characters and paradigms of a project like this are more occult bullshit. I enjoy your threads, Salt. Along with Lisa*Lisa, Goofy for God, and TXGal4Truth, you're one of my favorite posters on this strange board. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 03/09/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint ... Quoting: Sir France's Beercan Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element? before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons. the Logos is the Word of God In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter. the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it. its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools. just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists [link to www.osogd.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 03/09/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element? before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons. the Logos is the Word of God In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter. the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda Kudos on your knowledge of Gnosticism OP. I suspect that the Judaizers Pauls speaks of in his letters formed to beginnings of what we call "Gnosticism". The author of the Book of Hebrews also refers to this cult. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 03/09/2013 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint Thx Salt! I figured that satanic hollywood was might be up to something with this movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35183941 I'm not quite sure of the connections yet, but you figure that the characters and paradigms of a project like this are more occult bullshit. I enjoy your threads, Salt. Along with Lisa*Lisa, Goofy for God, and TXGal4Truth, you're one of my favorite posters on this strange board. thanks the point of the thread is this the illuminati/luciferian (hollywood covens) are targeting children for sympathy for the devil by portraying him in the way that they see him. truth mixed with lies mixed with truth |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 03/09/2013 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons. Quoting: Salt the Logos is the Word of God In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter. the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda 'satan' is a mythological metaphor created by man. A thought-form that only exists to those who consciously choose to subscribe to this thought form. 'satan' is not a universal truth. One must investigate and learn why these 'thought-forms' were created and utilized to impart messages on the masses: 'satan' is a mythological creation of man, a metaphor for the attributes/characteristics associated with the carnal mind of the physical flesh. Look into the nature of mythology, look into the meaning behind the term 'anthropomorphism' and try and perceive from a psychological standpoint why such a practice was utilized to spread messages to the masses at a time when many were not able to read & write. There was a different level of collective awareness and understanding back then. They did not have fancy psychological terms and the access to the information and the knowledge that we possess today. So they would take human qualities & characteristics and assign them to mythological characters and utilize those representations as a means for encouraging or discouraging certain types of behavior in individuals. Take all the bad shit about human behavior and attribute to a scary figure known as 'satan' and then discourage the masses from acting like this figure. Makes sense doesn't it? Quoting: ANHEDONIC 'satan' is not a unique character. Look at all the 'death deities' that have been created by various cultures at different times in human history and stated to represent the Lord/King/God of the 'underworld' [link to en.wikipedia.org] A thought-form can only exist as long as individuals consciously choose to feed energy to it. That is why it always puzzles me to see those who profess to stand with 'God' always speaking about 'satan' and trying to identify 'satan' in things that they perceive. They are unknowingly fueling the very thought-form they claim to stand against. Maybe they don't realize it. Thread: IF the richest, most powerful people in the world worship Satan.. It is very important to contemplate this not from a theological perspective, but from a psychological and sociological perspective. The issue many will have with contemplating this is that they have fused their belief in 'God' with their belief in 'satan'. So for them to consider that 'satan' is not a literal entity, they subconsciously feel that it also threatens their belief in 'God'. 'Satan' does not need to exist! But a higher power that is responsible for our creation does need to exist! One might think that many would be relieved to learn that 'satan' is a mythological figure, but some would prefer to believe that an omniscient and omnipotent Creator created an entity designed to torment them and fool them into despair. Evil (negative energy) exists only in those who use their god-given free will and make the conscious decision to embrace it! Individuals do not require some invisible mythological entity to fool or trick them into this path - they choose it for themselves. We must reinforce personal responsibility and accountability for our actions and stop deflecting the blame to metaphorical creations of man. 'God'/Creator/Higher Power can exist without the character known as 'satan'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35183941 United States 03/09/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint what do you think of the whole 'new pope' thing? The conclave of cardinals is going to start their election process this tuesday. will the next pope be the false prophet? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 03/09/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint Kudos on your knowledge of Gnosticism OP. I suspect that the Judaizers Pauls speaks of in his letters formed to beginnings of what we call "Gnosticism". The author of the Book of Hebrews also refers to this cult. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 Also, there are elements of the Kabbalah embedded within Gnosticism. You can also see elements of Kabbalah in the Talmud and Midrashim. The thread is there throughout history, one just needs to connect the dots. Gnosticism eventually morphed into Rosicruceanism then into modern day Free Masonry. Fascinating, but scary history they don't teach in school. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16488245 Philippines 03/09/2013 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint That Aiwaz drawing was drawn by Aleister Crowley, was it not? It was eithed him or someone equal in reputation. Cant remember. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 773685 that alien's name is LAM wrong LAM is his type or species the LAM who spoke to crowley is Aiwass but did you know that Crowley wrote Jephthah in the Cecil hotel in London? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 03/09/2013 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint Salt, not to go off from your topic, but since you're here now.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35183941 what do you think of the whole 'new pope' thing? The conclave of cardinals is going to start their election process this tuesday. will the next pope be the false prophet? well, that remains to be seen. we will find out soon. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 03/09/2013 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint Kudos on your knowledge of Gnosticism OP. I suspect that the Judaizers Pauls speaks of in his letters formed to beginnings of what we call "Gnosticism". The author of the Book of Hebrews also refers to this cult. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 Also, there are elements of the Kabbalah embedded within Gnosticism. You can also see elements of Kabbalah in the Talmud and Midrashim. The thread is there throughout history, one just needs to connect the dots. Gnosticism eventually morphed into Rosicruceanism then into modern day Free Masonry. Fascinating, but scary history they don't teach in school. . yes, right on target |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 03/09/2013 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint That Aiwaz drawing was drawn by Aleister Crowley, was it not? It was eithed him or someone equal in reputation. Cant remember. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 773685 that alien's name is LAM wrong LAM is his type or species the LAM who spoke to crowley is Aiwass but did you know that Crowley wrote Jephthah in the Cecil hotel in London? Thread: Elisa Lam and Jephtha's daughter Seila |
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Sir France's Beercan User ID: 1245590 Austria 03/09/2013 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint That Aiwaz drawing was drawn by Aleister Crowley, was it not? It was eithed him or someone equal in reputation. Cant remember. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 773685 that alien's name is LAM wrong LAM is his type or species the LAM who spoke to crowley is Aiwass Lol I was waiting for someone to say it's LAM :-) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16488245 Philippines 03/09/2013 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint but did you know that Crowley wrote Jephthah in the Cecil hotel in London? Thread: Elisa Lam and Jephtha's daughter Seila Im flattered. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 03/09/2013 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint That Aiwaz drawing was drawn by Aleister Crowley, was it not? It was eithed him or someone equal in reputation. Cant remember. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 773685 that alien's name is LAM wrong LAM is his type or species the LAM who spoke to crowley is Aiwass Lol I was waiting for someone to say it's LAM :-) Summary: 1) "Grey Aliens" are Lams, and were first contacted via magickal ritual by Alistair Crowley. Further magickal ritual along similar lines created a situation where direct access for these entities to the earth-world was established. Certain groups and people believe this to be beneficiary to humanity, and continue to draw these beings into the earth-world through magickal ritual via the original access point. 2) Satanists are involved in Crowleyain Lam invocations and recommend Ray's books for their extensive content on the habits and idiosyncrasies of the "greys" (Lams). Conclusion: It is now clear why Ray Fowler's books were recommended reading. This part of the puzzle, and the primary reason I wrote the report, has been solved to my satisfaction. The secondary question raised by investigating the first (do "aliens" or "lams" actually exist) is a far different matter. People's actions are objective, but the motivations are based on the subjectivity of beliefs. What one person believes to be "reality" may not be in the least "real" to another. At a certain level - and for the purposes of this report - it does not really matter if these beings and powers are objectively "real" or not. What is significant and of pertinence here is that many members of the occult community (O.T.O./Crowleyian) do indeed believe these beings and powers to be "real" and govern themselves accordingly. They spend considerable time attempting communication and invocation of them. They believe it is for the benefit of us all, although if this were generally known, I would think it would be a point of some considerable debate. Addendum Lam Lore: According to O.T.O. chief Kenneth Grant: Lam is known to be a link between the star systems of Sirius and Andromeda. Lam is the gateway to the Void. Its number, 71, is that of "NoThing", an apparition. Lam, as a Great Old One, whose archetype is recognizable in accounts of UFO occupants. Lam has been invoked to fulfill the work set afoot by Aiwass; as a reflex of Aiwass. Lam as the transmitter to AL of the vibrations of LA via MA, the key to the Aeon of Maat. Lam is the occult energy beaming the vibrations of Maat and may proceed from that future aeon... [link to groups.google.com (secure)] |
Sir France's Beercan User ID: 1245590 Austria 03/09/2013 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint ... Quoting: Sir France's Beercan Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element? before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons. the Logos is the Word of God In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter. the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it. its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools. just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists Ok so do you genuinely believe the 'secret' societies pursue a luciferian agenda? Or is there a media (including these types of forums) agenda to present them in this light? Edit to add it's not directed at anyone/thing just a question Last Edited by Sir France's Beercan on 03/09/2013 02:54 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States 03/09/2013 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint ... Quoting: Salt before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons. the Logos is the Word of God In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter. the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it. its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools. just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists Ok so do you genuinely believe the 'secret' societies pursue a luciferian agenda? Or is there a media (including these types of forums) agenda to present them in this light? Edit to add it's not directed at anyone/thing just a question a tree is known by its fruit |
Sir France's Beercan User ID: 1245590 Austria 03/09/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint ... Quoting: Sir France's Beercan Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it. its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools. just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists Ok so do you genuinely believe the 'secret' societies pursue a luciferian agenda? Or is there a media (including these types of forums) agenda to present them in this light? Edit to add it's not directed at anyone/thing just a question a tree is known by its fruit That's far more revealing than you realise. Thank you |
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