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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41263444 United States 06/18/2013 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41263444 Read the rest of it There are no "charges" in a neutron to move So you just proved you have a first grade understanding of electrostatics and atomic structure So with your theory if atoms do not have neutrons they are not effected by gravity? absolutely not. YOU said I said that, and it's a pattern with you. What I said is an object with no neutrons has no gravity. This is NOT like saying an object with no neutrons is not affected by gravity. That is your erroneous and infantile interpretation of what I said. Send in the big dogs Then what holds the clouds of hydrogen in space together? Nothing. If hydrogen were attracted to hydrogen ,eventually the atoms would be drawn towards each other in close proximity. This is not what we observe. Instead we observe extremely sparse plasma in space, were the gasses are REPELLING each other, and since most interplanetary hydrogen is actually protons without an electron or "hydrogen ions", your point is pretty retarded, Obviously like charges repel!. A proton with no electron is not an ion of anything it is a proton. Keep going you are making less and less sense |
Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If 444 had comprehended what I said, 'it' would realize that the electrons and protons of a neutron-less atom are attracted by neutrons , or gravity in another object or mass.. If you were to place particles in the cabin of a spacecraft with no charge and no neutrons, they would not clump together. Only materials with neutrons display this phenomenon Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 9183669 So hydrogen is "attracted" by neutrons? how do you suppose stars are formed since we KNOW that hydrogen freed into space instantly disperses and does not have any tendency to 'clump' |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41263444 United States 06/18/2013 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If 444 had comprehended what I said, 'it' would realize that the electrons and protons of a neutron-less atom are attracted by neutrons , or gravity in another object or mass.. If you were to place particles in the cabin of a spacecraft with no charge and no neutrons, they would not clump together. Only materials with neutrons display this phenomenon Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 9183669 So hydrogen is "attracted" by neutrons? how do you suppose stars are formed since we KNOW that hydrogen freed into space instantly disperses and does not have any tendency to 'clump' Nope that is not "known" at all So you are saying that neutrons make stars? Here we are again with the "Where did the free neutrons come from?" problem |
Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A proton with no electron is not an ion of anything it is a proton. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41263444 Keep going you are making less and less sense WRONG yet again. You're batting 1000. [link to www.ehow.com] Isolated Hydrogen Ion A normal atom of hydrogen has one proton that has a positive charge and one electron that has a negative charge. It is the atom with the lowest atomic number and is the first element in the periodic table. Essentially, the hydrogen ion is comprised of a proton. For this reason, H+ is the customary way to represent a proton. The bare nucleus of the isolated hydrogen ion is able to bond and combine easily with electrons and other molecules. Because of the tendency of the hydrogen ion to bind to other particles, it can only exist as isolated hydrogen ions in the gaseous state or in a vacuum, where there are almost no other particles. |
Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If 444 had comprehended what I said, 'it' would realize that the electrons and protons of a neutron-less atom are attracted by neutrons , or gravity in another object or mass.. If you were to place particles in the cabin of a spacecraft with no charge and no neutrons, they would not clump together. Only materials with neutrons display this phenomenon Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 9183669 So hydrogen is "attracted" by neutrons? how do you suppose stars are formed since we KNOW that hydrogen freed into space instantly disperses and does not have any tendency to 'clump' Nope that is not "known" at all So you are saying that neutrons make stars? Here we are again with the "Where did the free neutrons come from?" problem I beg your pardon! All elements of the periodic chart stated out as hydrogen, and thorough the process of fusion they become heavier elements. Without neutrons this would not be possible. This is PROOF of intelligent engineering |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41263444 United States 06/18/2013 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A proton with no electron is not an ion of anything it is a proton. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41263444 Keep going you are making less and less sense WRONG yet again. You're batting 1000. [link to www.ehow.com] Isolated Hydrogen Ion A normal atom of hydrogen has one proton that has a positive charge and one electron that has a negative charge. It is the atom with the lowest atomic number and is the first element in the periodic table. Essentially, the hydrogen ion is comprised of a proton. For this reason, H+ is the customary way to represent a proton. The bare nucleus of the isolated hydrogen ion is able to bond and combine easily with electrons and other molecules. Because of the tendency of the hydrogen ion to bind to other particles, it can only exist as isolated hydrogen ions in the gaseous state or in a vacuum, where there are almost no other particles. I am glad you now posted that all your crap in the solar data thread about the proton band touching earth was crap. And that also shows that your "proton detector" made out of a radio can't do anything because the protons can't make it to the surface. You took that cast quite well |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41263444 United States 06/18/2013 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how do you suppose stars are formed since we KNOW that hydrogen freed into space instantly disperses and does not have any tendency to 'clump' Nope that is not "known" at all So you are saying that neutrons make stars? Here we are again with the "Where did the free neutrons come from?" problem I beg your pardon! All elements of the periodic chart stated out as hydrogen, and thorough the process of fusion they become heavier elements. Without neutrons this would not be possible. This is PROOF of intelligent engineering Where did the neutrons come from though? |
Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A neutron IS MOST LIKELY a proton which has captured a slow electron and instead of the electron orbiting as in a normal hydrogen atom, is simple bonds directly to the Neutron and is seems as if it is one particle. (this is the most logical origin of neutrons Since an electron and a proton have equal and opposite charges, they would cancel each other and create a charge potential of zero.. This is PROBABLY why a neutron is slightly heavier than a proton by the exact mass of an electron. Again, this is THEORETICAL , but the evidence for it is compelling. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41263444 United States 06/18/2013 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A neutron IS MOST LIKELY a proton which has captured a slow electron and instead of the electron orbiting as in a normal hydrogen atom, is simple bonds directly to the Neutron and is seems as if it is one particle. (this is the most logical origin of neutrons Since an electron and a proton have equal and opposite charges, they would cancel each other and create a charge potential of zero.. This is PROBABLY why a neutron is slightly heavier than a proton by the exact mass of an electron. Again, this is THEORETICAL , but the evidence for it is compelling. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 9183669 You might want to read up on it huh...... Look into quantum mechanics and you can stop posting logical fallacies and demanding people prove you wrong......you will be able to figure out you are wrong on your own. I must admit it is more fun this way though |
Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A neutron IS MOST LIKELY a proton which has captured a slow electron and instead of the electron orbiting as in a normal hydrogen atom, it simply bonds directly to the Neutron and it seems as if it is one particle. (this is the most logical origin of neutrons Since an electron and a proton have equal and opposite charges, they would tend to be drawn together and if they did they would cancel each others' charges and create a charge potential of zero.. This is PROBABLY why a neutron is slightly heavier than a proton by the exact mass of an electron. Again, this is THEORETICAL , but the evidence for it is compelling. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 9183669 |
Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look into quantum mechanics and you can stop posting logical fallacies and demanding people prove you wrong. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41263444 No thanks, I've already proves quantum mechanics is a fairy tale. Let's apply the laws of physics and Occams razor as realscience demands to the problem, shall we? |
how User ID: 39800819 United States 06/18/2013 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, let me explain in very simple terms what the weak force gravity REALLY is. In all matter there are electrons and protons. These particles both have an electrical or electrostatic charge. Neutrons have no charge and they are the answer to the question of gravity, as I will explain. In objects or masses which exert a force of gravity on other objects, there must be [and always are] neutrons present. : This is because gravity is actually simply the electrostatic attraction between particles with a difference in charge potential, the neutrally charged neutron and the negatively charged electron exert a force inversely proportional to the distance they are from each other upon each other. If I understand, your position is that the "strong force" is the true mechanism of events classically attributed to the "gravitational force." If so, how do answer the criticism that the strong force is several orders of magnitude smaller than the force hitherto known as gravity, and, as such, would be insufficiently forceful to explain events attributed to gravity? [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 06/18/2013 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's wrong? It's not going to go away. Now maybe we can start calling cosmic radiation what it is instead of Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 41840266 "rays". Maybe we can finally get down to the business of working through the electric universe/intelligent design REALITY instead of this science-is-a-faith-based-religion and Einstein is god horseshit. It makes me want to hurl every time I look at that thieving idiot I am in full agreement with this: "Therefore gravity is 10^22 times stronger at the quantum level than we have been told. If we combine this with my newly recalibrated E/M field (which also resists acceleration), then we have plenty of force available to explain fission energies, without recourse to the strong force at all." That is because 'gravity' at the 'quantum' level is NOT gravity at all, but electromagnetism ^^^^^^^This, yes! Good thread AA, "the photon is fairy dust"!! Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
how User ID: 39800819 United States 06/18/2013 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, let me explain in very simple terms what the weak force gravity REALLY is. In all matter there are electrons and protons. These particles both have an electrical or electrostatic charge. Neutrons have no charge and they are the answer to the question of gravity, as I will explain. In objects or masses which exert a force of gravity on other objects, there must be [and always are] neutrons present. : This is because gravity is actually simply the electrostatic attraction between particles with a difference in charge potential, the neutrally charged neutron and the negatively charged electron exert a force inversely proportional to the distance they are from each other upon each other. If I understand, your position is that the "strong force" is the true mechanism of events classically attributed to the "gravitational force." If so, how do answer the criticism that the strong force is several orders of magnitude smaller than the force hitherto known as gravity, and, as such, would be insufficiently forceful to explain events attributed to gravity? [link to en.wikipedia.org] I had it backwards. I should have said: If I understand, your position is that the "strong force" is the true mechanism of events classically attributed to the "gravitational force." If so, how do answer the criticism that the strong force is several orders of magnitude larger than the force hitherto known as gravity, and, as such, would be excessively forceful to explain events attributed to gravity? |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 06/18/2013 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | E=MC^2.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246 C = Square root (E/M) The E/M is a ratio. That for the Speed of light to stay or be a true constant then both E and M have to always remain constants themselves. Or the algebra falls apart. Neither E nor M can ever change, not even for less than an atto second.. in fact never.. The Magic Formula itself is a lie. The result is that the Speed of Light is NOT A CONSTANT.. it is only arbitrarily nailed to the wall. There are particles from the sun reaching earth faster than the speed of light. Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41263444 United States 06/18/2013 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it funny that you use a theoretical physicist (you know the ones that make up crap)who gave up his own work because it fit your anti Einstein stance. Kaiku went off the rails when his string theory turned out no better nor more accurate than relativity. In that video you see that the end of the equation carried out equals infinity......we have a hard time attempting to imagine such a thing and maths freak out with such a non defined term. He could of and should have offered the possibility that we inhabit an infinite universe but he failed to do so. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41263444 United States 06/18/2013 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | E=MC^2.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246 C = Square root (E/M) The E/M is a ratio. That for the Speed of light to stay or be a true constant then both E and M have to always remain constants themselves. Or the algebra falls apart. Neither E nor M can ever change, not even for less than an atto second.. in fact never.. The Magic Formula itself is a lie. The result is that the Speed of Light is NOT A CONSTANT.. it is only arbitrarily nailed to the wall. There are particles from the sun reaching earth faster than the speed of light. No there aren't |
Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, let me explain in very simple terms what the weak force gravity REALLY is. In all matter there are electrons and protons. These particles both have an electrical or electrostatic charge. Neutrons have no charge and they are the answer to the question of gravity, as I will explain. In objects or masses which exert a force of gravity on other objects, there must be [and always are] neutrons present. : This is because gravity is actually simply the electrostatic attraction between particles with a difference in charge potential, the neutrally charged neutron and the negatively charged electron exert a force inversely proportional to the distance they are from each other upon each other. If I understand, your position is that the "strong force" is the true mechanism of events classically attributed to the "gravitational force." If so, how do answer the criticism that the strong force is several orders of magnitude smaller than the force hitherto known as gravity, and, as such, would be insufficiently forceful to explain events attributed to gravity? [link to en.wikipedia.org] I had it backwards. I should have said: If I understand, your position is that the "strong force" is the true mechanism of events classically attributed to the "gravitational force." If so, how do answer the criticism that the strong force is several orders of magnitude larger than the force hitherto known as gravity, and, as such, would be excessively forceful to explain events attributed to gravity? This is a very good question. Please allow me tine to respond, there is an answer but it is complicated |
Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | E=MC^2.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246 C = Square root (E/M) The E/M is a ratio. That for the Speed of light to stay or be a true constant then both E and M have to always remain constants themselves. Or the algebra falls apart. Neither E nor M can ever change, not even for less than an atto second.. in fact never.. The Magic Formula itself is a lie. The result is that the Speed of Light is NOT A CONSTANT.. it is only arbitrarily nailed to the wall. There are particles from the sun reaching earth faster than the speed of light. No there aren't Yes. there are |
Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | E=MC^2.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246 C = Square root (E/M) The E/M is a ratio. That for the Speed of light to stay or be a true constant then both E and M have to always remain constants themselves. Or the algebra falls apart. Neither E nor M can ever change, not even for less than an atto second.. in fact never.. The Magic Formula itself is a lie. The result is that the Speed of Light is NOT A CONSTANT.. it is only arbitrarily nailed to the wall. There are particles from the sun reaching earth faster than the speed of light. No there aren't Yes. there are neutrinos for one. Cosmic radiation reaches many times C |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A neutron IS MOST LIKELY a proton which has captured a slow electron and instead of the electron orbiting as in a normal hydrogen atom, it simply bonds directly to the Neutron and it seems as if it is one particle. (this is the most logical origin of neutrons Since an electron and a proton have equal and opposite charges, they would tend to be drawn together and if they did they would cancel each others' charges and create a charge potential of zero.. This is PROBABLY why a neutron is slightly heavier than a proton by the exact mass of an electron. Again, this is THEORETICAL , but the evidence for it is compelling. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 9183669 |
m&m's User ID: 28219729 United States 06/18/2013 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Intelligent design.....You may call him God.....But i refer to him as the programmer....What are you thought's on the double slit paradox....Or how partials observe us observing them and alter their movements with your theory.....Can it be tied together???? Quoting: catsscratchfever I prefer the term 'creator" and reject the idea of a man like god. I think the creator, creation and all of parts of it including ourselves are integral, the real 'divine trinity'. The double slit experiment seems to indicate that we are capable of manifesting waveform energy into matter through observation, an idea I do not completely discount. however, I think it's in the apparatus detecting the particle in the experiment causing the difference in interference patterns, Just MO. God is the creator and God is one. period. you are selling more BS on here, i see. hey, jmho on your "spiel." you are anti-religious and anti-God. there is no "divine trinity" in all the life on this earth. you haven't even mentioned string theory or sound waves blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah the Truth is humans do NOT know. God knows all. we just guess....instead of enjoying life. |
Lionelfrankenstein User ID: 12168657 Canada 06/18/2013 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not going to go away and the view count is staggering for a four page thread. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 9183669 Why are the 'big dogs' hiding under the porch, sending out the ankle biting toy poodles to do their dirty work? Because you're a paranoid schizophrenic fruitcake and all of this is in your head? Do you even consider that you are tipping your hand when you accuse someone of being a government shill? Because if by chance they are not, and just happen to be a regular old joe who thinks you're an egotistical, delusional tool, you are actually confirming to that person that you really are just another crazy freak on the Internet. You see, from your perspective, I *may* be part of a vast conspiracy to marginalize you. But you'll never know, because you're missing the key facts of the situation and are forced to speculate on them. Whereas whether you believe it or not, I KNOW FOR A FACT that I am not a shill or a part of a conspiracy to marginalize you, and that puts me up in the game. I know something you don't, and as a result the more you talk under the assumption that your speculation is fact, the more you reveal to me, and anyone else you falsely accuse, that you are in fact as crazy as a shithouse rat. So since I know for a fact that you're crazy as a shithouse rat, that drops the validity of any of your theories by orders of magnitude. And just so we're clear, you DID directly imply that I would die an untimely death for arguing against you. That was over a year ago. The Universe apparently deems me worthy of thriving, having provided me with a stable, well paying job, a wife, and kids, meanwhile it continues to curse you with mental illness and rob you of what you feel you deserve. You are a failure, a lunatic, and the closest thing you'll ever come to success is convincing a few people on a conspiracy site that you're a scientific genius. And you're not even doing a very good job of that. |
#Geomagnetic_Storm# User ID: 36140692 United States 06/18/2013 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And other great thread by IDW. Yawn.............. |
Lionelfrankenstein User ID: 12168657 Canada 06/18/2013 04:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The double slit experiment seems to indicate that we are capable of manifesting waveform energy into matter through observation, an idea I do not completely discount. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 41840266 however, I think it's in the apparatus detecting the particle in the experiment causing the difference in interference patterns, Just MO. You believe in a simplified explanation because the true implications are beyond your ability to grasp. The waveform is potentiality interacting with reality. It is every possible trajectory the particle can take. Once observed, it collapses into a physical, quantifiable particle, and the trajectory the particle *did* take emerges into reality. Wheeler was a true genius. But of course, since you can't comprehend his ideas and theories, you no doubt dismiss him as a hack. |
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Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The double slit experiment seems to indicate that we are capable of manifesting waveform energy into matter through observation, an idea I do not completely discount. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 41840266 however, I think it's in the apparatus detecting the particle in the experiment causing the difference in interference patterns, Just MO. You believe in a simplified explanation because the true implications are beyond your ability to grasp. The waveform is potentiality interacting with reality. It is every possible trajectory the particle can take. Once observed, it collapses into a physical, quantifiable particle, and the trajectory the particle *did* take emerges into reality. Wheeler was a true genius. But of course, since you can't comprehend his ideas and theories, you no doubt dismiss him as a hack. NO, I recognize the fact that the apparatus is the only difference in the 'observed' and unobserved" double slit experiment, and it is what is most likely causing te difference in results, Occams razor and all. |
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Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you even consider that you are tipping your hand when you accuse someone of being a government shill? Quoting: Lionelfrankenstein 12168657 But you are You don't have to be a 'government' shill to be a shill. You could be shilling fr your religion. Our relative intelligence imbalance is obvious though, and that's real relativity |
Anonymous Astrophysicst User ID: 9183669 United States 06/18/2013 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [ A neutron IS MOST LIKELY a proton which has captured a slow electron and instead of the electron orbiting as in a normal hydrogen atom, it simply bonds directly to the Neutron and it seems as if it is one particle. (this is the most logical origin of neutrons Since an electron and a proton have equal and opposite charges, they would tend to be drawn together and if they did they would cancel each others' charges and create a charge potential of zero.. This is PROBABLY why a neutron is slightly heavier than a proton by the exact mass of an electron. Again, this is THEORETICAL , but the evidence for it is compelling. |