Types of Counsciousness

you can backtrack the source in the classical seven-fold division of Man.
But which is somehow laid in more abstract terms.
FOr example:

"In all the Teachings one finds the subdivision of the human being into three fundamental principles: spiritual, psychic, and physical - or spirit, soul, and body. In the Eastern Teachings there is extension of these three basic principles, for special purposes, and we find the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh principles. Thus, the highest or fundamental principle, which contains potentially the synthesis of all the others, is the fiery energy of life or spirit, which is spread throughout the entire Cosmos. For its focus it requires the sixth principle, or Buddhi (often called "the spirit soul" as distinct from the human-animal soul). Thus the monad is formed, which is the primary, unconscious, incarnated Ego. Then follows the fifth principle - the Manas, self-consciousness, "the thinker" (higher intelligence). These three principles form the higher triad, or the conscious, immortal Ego. In Devachan, this Ego survives after the dissolution of the other principles which form man's earthly personality, or, as the Easterners would put it, man's lower ego, or self. In the Teaching, this Higher Ego, or the triad, is often treated as the seed of the spirit, which is unable directly or independently to manifest itself on earth. In order to manifest, this triad needs a fourth principle, called Kama, through which desire is expressed in two aspects: Kama-Manas, or the lower intellect (literally, the intellect of desires), and Kama-Rupa, or subjective form (the form of mental and physical desires and thoughts). This is the thinker in action. Kama, in connection with Manas (the higher) and Buddhi, forms the higher Subtle Body (the astral body, in order that it be not confused with its etheric double, is often called "the lower astral") or the spiritual soul of the spiritually developed man. Kama-Manas is a sort of bridge which connects the higher Manas with Kama-Rupa, thus connecting Manas and Form to make the Kama-Manas body, or human soul. When this bridge between Manas and its lower aspect, Kama-Manas, has been established, i.e., when man begins to receive the impressions from the higher Buddhi-Manas, we can say that man is spiritually developed and approaches immortality. Thus, for the achievement of true immortality, in other words, of the maintaining of consciousness on all four planes of existence, and for becoming an Arhat, it is essential to connect, precisely in the physical body, the fourth, fifth, and seventh principles and fuse them in the sixth - Buddhi. All the qualities of the basic energy, being separately transmuted by its fire, must be harmonized and expressed in the highest quality of psychic energy"

[link to agniyoga.org]

in the above quote Kama-Rupas cover 1st and 2nd
Manas covers 3rd and Buddhi covers 4th

:)

I understand that...with certain subjects the ego has no place with such things...

i'll check it, brother
thx

google the youtube video THE GREAT YEAR, narrated by james earl jones, it has alot of info pertaining to this subject. ENJOY!!!!!

nice and simple!

Ah, my handle is in the bold.

thx for the tip brother

But of course

so pwned

:catowned:

How are you aware to shut it off? I don't study subjects, I just know them as a result of blind intuition. I'd rather call it that instead of spiritual intuition since it's guiding with total trust in not knowing or seeing until you get to the outcome and it's always good and right, at least it has been for me when it happens that way. Except one time I tried to fight it and ended up being locked out of my house, lol! I used reasoning and logic, yet my body was stuck to the ground not letting me move, I jerked back and forth, not knowing why my body wanted to get in the car and go but my thoughts wanted me to go back inside and lock up the house. But I fought it and locked up my house and ended up being locked out. See what I mean?

absolutely brilliant thread OP.

I concur 100%. 5 stars.
best thread on GLP today ;)

those who do not understand it,
hopefully will one day :)

You don't 'shut off' the ego. You must be aware of it, and transcend past the emotions and false guidance it provides you with.

you forgot assbrainism

good stuff thank you

Spiritual self flagellation

You just censored a practising zen buddhist monk of 36 years to prop up your own ego, i'd say that's pwned

I slap you with the stupid stick again as i am authorised to do so.

You're short of a fair few epiphanies before you even qualify to talk to me my little star

i did it again

Good thread...

you have a Good Heart that is why your intuition guides you well.

Can you see the difference between a Simple but Wise Man
and a Seer?

the first knows by Heart and does not know Why the things are in that way.
the second also knows the reasons/causes why that knowledge sprang from the heart is True

In essence they are both the same. Just that the second can consciously guide others to understand themselves and the world around.

the first type is usually a messenger without knowing that it is.
the second understands consciously the message that it has to pass

i just deleted one of your messages to test how zen you really are.
and i let all the others, which are in essence the same.

your ego yelling over and over

boasting your experience of 36 years of zen practice

is sooooo EGO-LESSSSSSs :)))))))))

Andreita
you are a seer :)
I can spot one.

Only a seer could explain it as
well as you did.

Wow...yes nah I do see what you mean...that's an experience for sure...

aware to shut off the ego? Well first I had to learn to drop the ego completely...which is not easy for anybody on this earth. The ego to me also acts like a defense mode ya know with certain issues...so yeah it takes some getting used to...and I am still learning from that...

Then from there you know when to turn it off...I noticed the ego has no place when it comes to divine matters or matters of the heart...

I hope I'm putting this down in the best way as I am not as good of a writer about such issues like OP :)

being a seer is where the ability
to remote view comes from.

great contribution
thank you brother

I, m all of them.Its sooo hard you cant imagin.
To walk among ghosts sleepers and zoombies.
To be your true self is the hardest trial of em all.
Most of you are playing a role without knowing it .
Only when all of us are their thrue original self it will be paradise,
until then its living hell.

The Vanguard, Yes, I have heard that within me. I am from that team. We are the front-runners.

May the new creation over-spread this old earth to a high degree, and heal the curse.

:vanguardS::seersfun:

Humanity was all along about Co-Operation
Constantly reflecting ourselves
We All Learn

Let me just grap my popcorn and let the experts explain ;)

Hi Sept!

I don't know if I agree with the seer thing though. I get what you are saying but in the end to be aware of a message the seer must have their own thoughts put into it instead of flowing freely which takes away from the original message. A true messenger will not be aware of being one. I've had people in passing give me messages, telling me things but the way they say it wouldn't come across as this is the message. You have to master language to understand the messages from everyone.

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echo

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