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Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!

 
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Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
So should we be watching to see if they disappear, or will they be in for a rude awakening? The are mentally avoiding any issues going on in the world. Wouldn't want to go into battle with these people, as they do not want to prepare for anything other than Dairy Queen.
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i know one thing for sure, their wallets will be ruptured
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the rapture written in the 1950's or 60's or cannon-ized then?
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
So should we be watching to see if they disappear, or will they be in for a rude awakening? The are mentally avoiding any issues going on in the world. Wouldn't want to go into battle with these people, as they do not want to prepare for anything other than Dairy Queen.
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Christian = crazyjak
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ufo56
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you mean the Space Jesus, or harvest thing?


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Oh yea, they believe it OP.

I went to a few Christian churches. The preacher is up there telling them 'We go to heaven and everyone else suffers for 7 years'.

I was asking them to show me where it says this in the bible. It doesn't, yet they still believe it.

It was a stupid doctrine created by the Jesuits & Jews in the 1800's so people wouldn't get uppity about their oppression.

I figured it out they were full of shit in about 5 days of study.

People hear what they want to hear I guess.
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
The rapture can't come until the mass apostasy and the man of lawlessness is revealed (aka antichrist). It says so plainly in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2.

Well we have the mass apostasy, now all we need is the man of sin. I wonder if Barak is applying for the job?
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
If you study the book of Revelations, there is no pre trib rapture.. "God's people" will have to suffer and many die as a testimony against the evil world and those same will be resurrected and fight with Jesus on his white horse.
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Oh yea, they believe it OP.

I went to a few Christian churches. The preacher is up there telling them 'We go to heaven and everyone else suffers for 7 years'.

I was asking them to show me where it says this in the bible. It doesn't, yet they still believe it.

It was a stupid doctrine created by the Jesuits & Jews in the 1800's so people wouldn't get uppity about their oppression.

I figured it out they were full of shit in about 5 days of study.

People hear what they want to hear I guess.
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they all use it to avoid all issue plaguing the world today, and to justify their driving of Cadillacs and Lexus'

they seem to hate anyone talking about govt corruption too, as they do not want anyone disturbing their own private Idaho. similar to early Puritans, or predestinationists. They seem to defend the lies of this world more so than the Nihilists or Atheists. Not all, but fundamentalist and those aligned into the dogma
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ufo56
 Quoting: Oreo Speedwagon


you mean the Space Jesus, or harvest thing?


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As long as they stop talking I do not care.
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"No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."
Luke 16:13

Whom is their master if they savor the things of this world?
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The rapture can't come until the mass apostasy and the man of lawlessness is revealed (aka antichrist). It says so plainly in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2.

Well we have the mass apostasy, now all we need is the man of sin. I wonder if Barak is applying for the job?
 Quoting: SevenThunders


even if you say anything like this, they will say it is their belief that they will disappear before any catastrophes, and say it with a smug smile. It doesn't matter if a theologian says differently, they say it is what they believe. So they pick and choose what mentally serves them to cope. like transhumanism does for some scientists and globalists. the marketing campaigns and false promises seem to originate from the same sources, and mingle in their thoughts.
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
Born again types have been telling this for decades, at least 45 years from my experience. The "end" is just around the corner...better repent and save yourself because there's not much time left and you don't want to be left here for the tribulation. Almost a half century I've been hearing this. Wellllllllllllllll.....what is Jesus waiting for?
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I heard that Alf will be the Commander of the fleet. GO GO Alf!

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Christians have friends of other religions. They will help them.
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I heard that Alf will be the Commander of the fleet. GO GO Alf!

alien
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like Share International's space Jesus? it seems like all secular philosophies, religions, and culture is framed into set parameters of belief, realities to choose from that is, playing on people's insecurities and drug sedation.


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If every Christian you know thinks they will be raptured before an economic collapse then none of the Christians you know have bothered to read their Bible.

I am a Christian. I have read the whole Bible and studied prophecy intently. I don't know everything, but pre-tribulation rapture is complete denial, ignorance, and naïve wishful thinking all wrapped up into one. We will definitely be here for some major fire works before Jesus comes back. An economic collapse is the least of our worries.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
If every Christian you know thinks they will be raptured before an economic collapse then none of the Christians you know have bothered to read their Bible.

I am a Christian. I have read the whole Bible and studied prophecy intently. I don't know everything, but pre-tribulation rapture is complete denial, ignorance, and naïve wishful thinking all wrapped up into one. We will definitely be here for some major fire works before Jesus comes back. An economic collapse is the least of our worries.
 Quoting: Resister


Baloney. Thread: For Christians: The scriptural basis for the pre-tribulational Rapture

You're not the only one who's studied Bible prophecy, and it is arrogant for you to think everyone must reach the same conclusions as you, not to mention slandering a whole group of people you don't know.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
If every Christian you know thinks they will be raptured before an economic collapse then none of the Christians you know have bothered to read their Bible.

I am a Christian. I have read the whole Bible and studied prophecy intently. I don't know everything, but pre-tribulation rapture is complete denial, ignorance, and naïve wishful thinking all wrapped up into one. We will definitely be here for some major fire works before Jesus comes back. An economic collapse is the least of our worries.
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look @ what 9Nania found out when studying the Bible.
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
OP, I"m a christian and the Bible says it will happen at the last trump.........which appears to be half way through the final 7 years.

We will be here for some difficult days, I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so.

hf
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
If every Christian you know thinks they will be raptured before an economic collapse then none of the Christians you know have bothered to read their Bible.

I am a Christian. I have read the whole Bible and studied prophecy intently. I don't know everything, but pre-tribulation rapture is complete denial, ignorance, and naïve wishful thinking all wrapped up into one. We will definitely be here for some major fire works before Jesus comes back. An economic collapse is the least of our worries.
 Quoting: Resister


Baloney. Thread: For Christians: The scriptural basis for the pre-tribulational Rapture

You're not the only one who's studied Bible prophecy, and it is arrogant for you to think everyone must reach the same conclusions as you, not to mention slandering a whole group of people you don't know.
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Explain how the 5th seal reveals the martyred saints and tells them they have to wait until the rest of their number of those who are to be martyred are fulfilled if we are all raptured before the first 4 seals (and the 6th) kills off billions of people.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Explain how the 5th seal reveals the martyred saints and tells them they have to wait until the rest of their number of those who are to be martyred are fulfilled if we are all raptured before the first 4 seals (and the 6th) kills off billions of people.
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Explain how you think 'saints' always means 'believers of the church age'.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
Oh please..........don't start this debate again.
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I think they were tricked from the get go, and they will suffer more than most, and when the have their life review, they will see how they wasted their lives and didn't do anything to fix it because of their arrogance at having been special.
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
No one will escape the wrath.
That should be obvious already as we see good people suffer greatly while evil people are rewarded.If God protected the good then there wouldnt be any evil people to start with.
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No one will escape the wrath.
That should be obvious already as we see good people suffer greatly while evil people are rewarded.If God protected the good then there wouldnt be any evil people to start with.
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when I bring up the Jews in the German concentration camps, they scoff and turn away.
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No one will escape the wrath.
That should be obvious already as we see good people suffer greatly while evil people are rewarded.If God protected the good then there wouldnt be any evil people to start with.
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when I bring up the Jews in the German concentration camps, they scoff and turn away.
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No Christian of any era should have thought they'd escape the wrath of man or Satan. That is to be expected, and even to day many Christians are martyred.

But the wrath of God is a time of suffering Jesus said "that has never been before and will never be again". Its purpose, per Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy, is to finish the punishments still remaining for the Jews, and to punish the unbelieving world of Satan's kingdom. Since, as you know, the church has already been suffering, we are not to suffer more.

So you are confusing/mixing the wrath of man/Satan and the wrath of God. They are not the same.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
no ones going anywere until tafter the tribulation
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If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the rapture written in the 1950's or 60's or cannon-ized then?
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Very mistaken.
The theology has been around for a long time, but the message took new meaning for those living during the cold war under the threat of nuclear war.
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Re: Every Christian I know says they will be raptured before the economic collapse!
I would hedge their bets if I were them. Many will end up living in their cars or outside in tents. They need to learn how to do so, now.





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