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Zimmerman Trial 7/11/13 Day 22

 
geminilion

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This is what happened when the New Black Panther Party went to the home of a man accused of shooting and killing 2 black men who where burglarizing his neighbors home.

LOL...must watch, can't embed sorry.


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Embedded for ya. Why can't you imbed? I imbedded fine when I was unpaid last week. just put the [youtube /youtube stuff on either side of the link. Or highlight the link and hit the "youtube" button over the reply box.
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Not sure if it's the old computer or my old brain.
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Closing arguments should be good.
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sniff stretch yawn

...

are we there yet?
 Quoting: Only Me


Agreed. I'm not too familiar with the US "justice" system- when can we expect a verdict?
 Quoting: FOTN


Um ... I put all that data in the OP. Don't really feel like retyping it, sorry.
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Judge wants them to get a verdict in before the weekend, the naacp just happened to be having a big gathering down there.
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sniff stretch yawn

...

are we there yet?
 Quoting: Only Me


Agreed. I'm not too familiar with the US "justice" system- when can we expect a verdict?
 Quoting: FOTN


Um ... I put all that data in the OP. Don't really feel like retyping it, sorry.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


we answered it. <3
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I have seen it before in high profile cases where PD and city requests the court to NOT give an unfavorable verdict on a Friday.

If there is a quick acquittal it will be released on Monday. A quick guilty will be released on Friday.
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Good morning all....Or Afternoon for moi
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Good morning all....Or Afternoon for moi
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It's still 8 AM here, so don't tell me what happens this afternoon please :)
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sniff stretch yawn

...

are we there yet?
 Quoting: Only Me


Agreed. I'm not too familiar with the US "justice" system- when can we expect a verdict?
 Quoting: FOTN


Um ... I put all that data in the OP. Don't really feel like retyping it, sorry.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


we answered it. <3
 Quoting: Only Me


Yeah, thanks.

I'm still a bit groggy from sleeping. I tend to be a little cranky the first hour after waking up, especially when nursing a 3 day migraine. Meh.

Just starting to get a little frustrated from the last few days having people pop in and ask questions that have been detailed clearly in the OP.

But again, I'm just being a bit cranky.
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Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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Why is this site so obsessed with this trial?

Ain't there hundreds of trials like this every day i merica.
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if drones were monitoring our neighborhoods this kinda stuff would be minimized.
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I think you are on to something, these riots this weekend will be the justification for drones everywhere.
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It needs to be discussed why this judge is hellbent on rushing this process! I have NEVER seen anything like it!
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Got a call from Washington DC with instructions on what to do and when
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Good morning all....Or Afternoon for moi
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43029416


It's still 8 AM here, so don't tell me what happens this afternoon please :)
 Quoting: BRIEF


chuckle
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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sniff stretch yawn

...

are we there yet?
 Quoting: Only Me


Agreed. I'm not too familiar with the US "justice" system- when can we expect a verdict?
 Quoting: FOTN


Um ... I put all that data in the OP. Don't really feel like retyping it, sorry.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


we answered it. <3
 Quoting: Only Me



Thanks to you , the OP and Voltaic for your perspectives. I appreciate it. Personally I think he will walk- this explains the Judge's behaviour- she is acting because she knows that it is a clear cut case, expect a book sooner or later...
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Why is this site so obsessed with this trial?

Ain't there hundreds of trials like this every day i merica.
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So why are you here?
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I have seen it before in high profile cases where PD and city requests the court to NOT give an unfavorable verdict on a Friday.

If there is a quick acquittal it will be released on Monday. A quick guilty will be released on Friday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43111611


The unfavorable verdict is a not-guilty verdict.

In this case, they want people at home by their TV's for the weekend viewing.

If they riot, Friday afternoon is the BEST time to release the not-guilty verdict.

The city looses money during riots. Keeping it over the weekend will reduce that loss by A LOT.
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Good morning all....Or Afternoon for moi
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43029416


It's still 8 AM here, so don't tell me what happens this afternoon please :)
 Quoting: BRIEF


I know the outcome :)
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Why is this site so obsessed with this trial?

Ain't there hundreds of trials like this every day i merica.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498603


1) It's a psyop that's hoping to stir up racial tensions enough to cause rioting, opening the door for martial law and a back door runaround the Posse Comitatus Act.

2) The decisions in this case, if upheld by the Supreme Court could radically change many issues in the country like gun ownership rights, self defense and others.

3) If this goes sideways, it will create an environment in this country where people will have no choice but to let some savage beat them to death if they're scared to spend time in prison for protecting themselves outside of their own home.

4) You don't live in this country so you don't care about these issues so to you it's no big deal.
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"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
Real men keep Torah.
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Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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It needs to be discussed why this judge is hellbent on rushing this process! I have NEVER seen anything like it!
 Quoting: GoldenYears


Got a call from Washington DC with instructions on what to do and when
 Quoting: PIR


Disclose, please.
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It needs to be discussed why this judge is hellbent on rushing this process! I have NEVER seen anything like it!
 Quoting: GoldenYears


The elites religion is numerology. 7/11/13 Day 22. Especially 11 and 22. It seems to help them in their agendas, ie JFK killed 11/22. Also, number 23 is important to them, as is the day Friday. Day 23, not guilty verdict, on a Friday.
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Good morning all....Or Afternoon for moi
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43029416


It's still 8 AM here, so don't tell me what happens this afternoon please :)
 Quoting: BRIEF


I know the outcome :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43029416




Oh really. BS.
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So why are you here?
 Quoting: GoldenYears


GY, hey ... if you look up in the right hand corner of postings, you'll see a little chat bubble that looks kinda like (...).

If you click on that, it quotes the posting to which you are replying. This makes it easier for everyone to know to whom you are replying.

I'm not being condescending, I'm just assuming you're not aware of how the quote works. Your lack of quoting makes it REALLY difficult to determine who whom you are speaking.
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"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
Real men keep Torah.
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Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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I have seen it before in high profile cases where PD and city requests the court to NOT give an unfavorable verdict on a Friday.

If there is a quick acquittal it will be released on Monday. A quick guilty will be released on Friday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43111611


The unfavorable verdict is a not-guilty verdict.

In this case, they want people at home by their TV's for the weekend viewing.

If they riot, Friday afternoon is the BEST time to release the not-guilty verdict.

The city looses money during riots. Keeping it over the weekend will reduce that loss by A LOT.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


I have seen this more than once. In my time sometimes guilty was unfavorable sometimes not guilty was unfavorable.

Yes, in this case not guilty is unfavorable. That is why it will not be released on a Friday.
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Sir, I just figured out how it works! THANKS!
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Good morning all....Or Afternoon for moi
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43029416


It's still 8 AM here, so don't tell me what happens this afternoon please :)
 Quoting: BRIEF


I know the outcome :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43029416




Oh really. BS.
 Quoting: GoldenYears


Was an in jest comment.....I have been here for some time. The time difference :)
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First and last reply (unless Phydeau or Voltaic reply/quote me) about yesterday:


For the record yesterday I was ON current topic the whole time, and got erroneously booted from the thread. Please allow me to explain and I think you will agree with me, and see the quotes I was able to pull from yesterday's thread.


I only replied to a post that GZ 'has such a solid case, and he is obviously telling the truth about what happened' with a link that shows how GZ's story changed within 24hrs (bushes, but I did not mention bushes at this time) and some other inconsistencies. Sir Phydeau replied that 3 people testified differently and he believes them over my opinion. Right around that time (either right then or slightly prior @ 2:22PM EDT, can be seen around 2:20 mark here: [link to www.youtube.com] the GZ defense team was submitting new evidence of the crime scene at a hearing to get it included in the trial. So in my reply to Sir Phydeau I tried to clarify what part of the link I posted previously showed inconsistency and immediately I pointed out that right at that very time in the stream that he could 'look at the picture the defense just submitted into evidence even, you can see how far away the bushes are even using their own evidence!'

From there several people replied to my post to which I replied to them, which I assumed was fine and I doubt any of them got banned

I did not come in here trolling and blank replying to the thread to bring up bushes, instead I replied to others' posts and to give evidence to clarify their understanding. I first brought up bushes when the Defense was entering new evidence/photos showing how far away the bushes are, and then only in replies on that same topic. All of it came from items presented yesterday, and was on topic and in reply to why GZ was not 'obviously telling the truth about what happened', etc


I would like to post here during closing arguments, etc and I will stay on topic, like I feel I did yesterday. I know Phydeau didn't ban me because we disagree on the outcome, and I think he could see the quality in my posts yesterday and I think he may have misunderstood how/why/when bushes was brought up. If we're not allowed to bring up prior info when new evidence is presented in the current day, then that wasn't clear to me and I apologize and I won't do it but that doesn't make much sense, nor would limiting us from replying to other people's questions about one's own posts



-Yoda


PS Also Haters don't forget I was repeatedly shown to be correct about the case (phone data was out once she ruled it could not be 'authenticated', GZ would not testify on his own behalf, Defense would not submit toxicology report because showing minuscule amount of pot in a system could only hurt them because 99.99999% of the time a pot smoker would be more mellow aka less likely to be in a fight). If my streak continues, Yoda-Haters and doomtards are gonna be crying when the verdict comes in!


PPS I think it's Voltaic that owes me an admission of who was right and who was wrong on the phone data… MAN UP



yoda



EDITTED: to include Yoda smilie and link to youtube showing the new evidence GZ defense submitted which caused me to first mention bushes!



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Normally I would say if you don't have to then don't...

However he has such a solid case, and he is obviously telling the truth about what happened, if I thought he could handle cross and stay cool, then why not?

So far his story hasn't changed since day one, and he has a nice, respectful unassuming character...I don't think it would hurt them.

I would put him on the stand to defend himself before I would put "Racheal-the-hut" on the stand as my "star witness", that's for sure...
 Quoting: Creepy Cracka 42737074


his story changed and was proven wrong within 24 hours of the event! get your facts straight


[link to articles.orlandosentinel.com]
 Quoting: Yoda17460874


Sorry, bro. Three cops (one being a lead investigator) have testified that they disagree with your opinion here.

I'm gonna take the word of LEOs over that of someone on GLP.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau



I mean about the bushes which you can clearly see are a good 30 yards away from the spot of the altercation and therefore TM could not have jumped out of them and attack him as they were too far away

look at the picture the defense just submitted into evidence even, you can see how far away the bushes are even using their own evidence!
 Quoting: Yoda17460874


Last Edited by Yoda17460874 on 07/11/2013 08:49 AM
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The unfavorable verdict is a not-guilty verdict.

In this case, they want people at home by their TV's for the weekend viewing.

If they riot, Friday afternoon is the BEST time to release the not-guilty verdict.

The city looses money during riots. Keeping it over the weekend will reduce that loss by A LOT.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Hi, Voltaic.

I agree with this.

But I've always wondered.....

Does anyone know what the jury's verdict is before they actually enter the courtroom and the judge reads it?
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Sir, I just figured out how it works! THANKS!
 Quoting: GoldenYears


buddyx
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Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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It's still 8 AM here, so don't tell me what happens this afternoon please :)
 Quoting: BRIEF


I know the outcome :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43029416




Oh really. BS.
 Quoting: GoldenYears


Was an in jest comment.....I have been here for some time. The time difference :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43029416



Ok, good to know that!
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