Communicating after EMP attack, Solar Flare/Storm, Magnetic Pole Shift

Do you have any step by step farraday cage plans for us dummies?

Most of us know what we might need, but I was curious if many of us thought about communicating to family or friends. Like having a plan. For example, if this scenario does come round, it might be much better to try and get to my brother's house than attempting to stay at my own. And if plans were made ahead of time, well... the situation could be much more successful than guessing who in your inner circle is going to do what.


Hola SS.

I'm going to be putting a few items into my rather nifty farraday cage. Including several sets of two way radios with 5ish mile radius. I have a generator and bunches of gas (ok...not bunches, but quite a bit). The generator has a farraday cage around it, too. The generator isn't much, but it will power a few luxury items until the gas is gone. Mostly the generator is for refrigeration and water pump operation. I'm on a deep well and haven't quite figured out how to keep that working AFTER the EMP. ugh.

I'm researching other power schemes, but honestly...nothing seems to be worth the time or money involved. I got a tight budget.

I have "organized" a "compound" of sorts with a few local peeps with varying skill sets. They know that if anything happens to get to ma hizzle asap, and bring the agreed upon resources. I have 6+ clean acres and the neighbor (rusty) and his family got 6+ clean acres. Tree lined with Pecan trees across the road and forest behind us.

The paper and pencil idea works, but assumes that various people will have access to wherever the notes are placed. Communication and transportation are HUGE in trying to create a "community". We use what we got, and the paper/pencil idea seems to be what we got.

As an aside, we noticed in Katrina that various military and health organizations used spray paint on doors...and sharpie on body parts. Not an ideal solution.

Do you have any step by step farraday cage plans for us dummies?


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Those won't be good enough. You need to copper shield your entire room, with adequate surge protectors and multiple cage ground pins...


Hmmm, why surge protectors? The grid goes down...well.

Do you have any step by step farraday cage plans for us dummies?


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Those won't be good enough. You need to copper shield your entire room, with adequate surge protectors and multiple cage ground pins...


Hmmm, why surge protectors? The grid goes down...well.




Leaks potentially through your cage into equipment connected to a power source. You could always leave everything unplugged but knowing the exact minute maybe a tough call. Unless of course you don't use any of the equipment, in which case do not connect any of the equipment to a power source - batteries, gens, etc.

If the power is out. Use a laser pointer. Develop with a neighbor a code book of your own mores code. Develop an exact location where to beam the light into their home. Like that one???

Do you have any step by step farraday cage plans for us dummies?


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The cheapo way to go: You may need to solder or wield depending on what you are using for shielding.

Build a enclosure, cover all sides with metal (think of a safe) and apply a grounding wire to the enclosure shielding, ground wire connected to a spike, spike driven into earth.

SS,

following this for while.

Any further word from the boeing VTC guy?

Keep 1 UHF radio and 1 CB radio inside a unused microwave oven or as many radios as you can fit. The hull of the microwave over serves as a poor mans Faraday cage.

good idea about leaving a note if you have to leave, however, it would need to be hidden in prearranged location, so a stranger wont see it as a welcome, come in and rob your house.

I don't know how to build anything. I don't know what a grounding wire is. Alot of people don't. Can we just buy a farraday cage premade? And how many volts from the sun should we expect to be protecting against?

good idea about leaving a note if you have to leave, however, it would need to be hidden in prearranged location, so a stranger wont see it as a welcome, come in and rob your house.

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Have prearranged message drop locations at your own place and help family/friends designate theirs. Could be under a certain rock, buried next to a particular plant or in a can on the ground under a window.

Additional drop locations at some other place family might look for you could be useful if you can get to them on your way out of the area--outside your workplace, along a frequently travelled route you take, and outside a designated public place--maybe a church, firestation, library, athletic field, park, hospital?

Buy a ham radio and build a Faraday cage and bury it in the ground along with a car battery and an alternator and a solar panel. Issue solved.

Mostly the generator is for refrigeration and water pump operation. I'm on a deep well and haven't quite figured out how to keep that working AFTER the EMP. ugh.
--quoting NevynShyne

www.lehmans.com --they sell manual pumps for both shallow and deep water wells. Might work for you if it will fit into yoour well casing.

I was think about writing letters... you know, like we did for the previous 3000 years.
Seemed to work ok.

Buy a ham radio and build a Faraday cage and bury it in the ground along with a car battery and an alternator and a solar panel. Issue solved.



this will not work if EMP is sustained for long periods of time.

Nothing will work.

Mostly the generator is for refrigeration and water pump operation. I'm on a deep well and haven't quite figured out how to keep that working AFTER the EMP. ugh.
--quoting NevynShyne

www.lehmans.com --they sell manual pumps for both shallow and deep water wells. Might work for you if it will fit into yoour well casing.

I don't know how to build anything. I don't know what a grounding wire is. Alot of people don't. Can we just buy a farraday cage premade? And how many volts from the sun should we expect to be protecting against?



Hmmm...You can certainly buy pre-made cages. Some can get quite expensive. The second part of that is that many...many...many...pre-made cages are sold-out or are made to order and have a somewhat long waiting list. :)

Sadly, your comment points to an issue far beyond whether or not you have a farraday cage.

Edit: some people just don't have the know-how to do some things. It's best to do an honest evaluation of your skill sets and find people with complimentary skills. ie; if you are a good gardener, stock up on non-hybrid seeds and garden utensils and find people to "complete" the picture.

I have the food storage/growing/prep and medical portion of my little "community". I have several ex-military involved who are covering the protection (beyond personal protection) and a guy who is a mechanical freakin genious to work on practical mechanics. Also involved are a couple of "general helpers" who can assist but don't have specialties. Between 6-10 people in a "community" is best.

I guess I`m pretty fortunate...all my family lives within 3 miles of me except my bro...and he`s only about 5...They all know where to come if something should happen, and so do about 4 of my closest friends...I got a fireplace for the winter..tons of hunting, fishing, and trapping gear..full propane tank all the time..well water...I`ve often thought about the communications so I`ve pretty much have just told everybody in advance where to come in case something like this happens...My bro hangs out here so he is aware of the possibilities..

Buy a ham radio and build a Faraday cage and bury it in the ground along with a car battery and an alternator and a solar panel. Issue solved.



this will not work if EMP is sustained for long periods of time.

Nothing will work.


"The EMP, or Electromagnetic pulse, is a rapid magnetic fluctuation which induces a pulse of current in unshielded electronics."

EMPs are not sustained events. They are very quick, and that's why they are so damaging - conventional surge protector devices do not have time to act.

Keep 1 UHF radio and 1 CB radio inside a unused microwave oven or as many radios as you can fit. The hull of the microwave over serves as a poor mans Faraday cage.



Very useful information, the entire post. Thank you.

I guess I`m pretty fortunate...all my family lives within 3 miles of me except my bro...and he`s only about 5...They all know where to come if something should happen, and so do about 4 of my closest friends...I got a fireplace for the winter..tons of hunting, fishing, and trapping gear..full propane tank all the time..well water...I`ve often thought about the communications so I`ve pretty much have just told everybody in advance where to come in case something like this happens...My bro hangs out here so he is aware of the possibilities..



VERY convenient! Sounds like the place I wanna be! My mother and father are on the same property, so that's not a big dealio, but the rest of my family is spread out across the US. Communication will be non-existent. That sux.

That brings up another salient point...one I hesitate to mention and don't mention lightly. If something happens, many will die; probably family. We have to be as mentally/spiritually/emotionally prepared for those events as we are for an EMP event.

I don't know how to build anything. I don't know what a grounding wire is. Alot of people don't. Can we just buy a farraday cage premade? And how many volts from the sun should we expect to be protecting against?



Hmmm...You can certainly buy pre-made cages. Some can get quite expensive. The second part of that is that many...many...many...pre-made cages are sold-out or are made to order and have a somewhat long waiting list. :)

Sadly, your comment points to an issue far beyond whether or not you have a farraday cage.

Edit: some people just don't have the know-how to do some things. It's best to do an honest evaluation of your skill sets and find people with complimentary skills. ie; if you are a good gardener, stock up on non-hybrid seeds and garden utensils and find people to "complete" the picture.

I have the food storage/growing/prep and medical portion of my little "community". I have several ex-military involved who are covering the protection (beyond personal protection) and a guy who is a mechanical freakin genious to work on practical mechanics. Also involved are a couple of "general helpers" who can assist but don't have specialties. Between 6-10 people in a "community" is best.


Somebody help me out here, you could use an old metal washing machine or dryer. You could use a old metal oven. You could use a old freezer or refrigerator as long as it is made of metal, you don't necessarily need to build it, you could find at the junk yard.

from my memory...

with the solar dynamics observatory on station plus others from usa/russia/china the detection of emp threat is go

15 mininutes the time allowed to shut down the grids and avoid damage

shutdown time range 5 hours to three days

most probable time 36 hours

maintaining order within powerless societies is the potential threat

So, has anyone made plans in case electronic communications are lost? I was just thinking of the difficulty of reaching family and friends in the case of an EMP attack, solar flare/storm knocking out satellites, magnetic pole shift, etc.

Some of my family only live 1 hour away, but contacting them would be extremely difficult without a car to travel, and phones not working.

I highly suggest using a pen/pencil and pad of paper...everytime you leave the house, make a note of the day and time of day you left and are expected back and where you went.

If you decide to leave your house to move in with other friends or family, make sure you leave a note with all the information, so it other friends or family know where you went and do not wait around your house wondering if you ever get back.