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Oh, and ZetaMax, to what 'impossible standards of perfection' do you refer?

We do ask that Nacy be able to identify certain common objects (the Sun, the Moon, the ground, etc.), and when she fails to do that AND she makes monumental predictions that fail (too many to list), then of course her credibility sinks to zero.

Sorry, I used a zero again. Let me rephrase with a 'nearly nothing' in its place.


You know, the point of my ear-wax sun bit from a few posts back was simply to illustrate that some ideas are just too stupid to be entertained seriously. Nancy's ZT falls right into that group, on every level. I'm sure you saw that.

So again, why do you claim to remain neutral in the face of such overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

Service Others is all about the golden rule. Threat others as you want to be threated.

Service to Self is about love for the self. Ego.

Let me ask you, Max...since NOTHING about px has EVER proven to be true in all of ZT, if you cut out PX, what's left? If the entire heart of the story doesn't exist, what's left?

STO/STS

For those who are posting over on the bunker thread, remember the boycott. The whole idea is to let Nancy's BS sink to the bottom where it belongs. They are baiting you to keep pumping it. Just bring the logical and factual arguments over here. Don't worry, any bunkers who are participating over there are also watching here.

I'm surprised she hasn't turned up in here, blathering on about White Lies and imaginary skies. What's keeping her out, by the way? Did someone paste a copy of a real astronomy book somewhere in here? Maybe a paste of a telescope owner's manual?

I know she's terrified of both items...

For those who are posting over on the bunker thread, remember the boycott. The whole idea is to let Nancy's BS sink to the bottom where it belongs. They are baiting you to keep pumping it. Just bring the logical and factual arguments over here. Don't worry, any bunkers who are participating over there are also watching here.

For those who are posting over on the bunker thread, remember the boycott. The whole idea is to let Nancy's BS sink to the bottom where it belongs. They are baiting you to keep pumping it. Just bring the logical and factual arguments over here. Don't worry, any bunkers who are participating over there are also watching here.

Thanks, Menow. Is it true that she's a Moderator here? If so, I'm surprised she hasn't waved the Magical Wand of Deletion over this entire thread...

Oh, okay, Menow. That's good.

I hope they're also preventing her from using grown-up scissors and handling her own money.

Her Zetas are just silly. No zeros? They don't even grasp basic physical concepts. They can communicate with a daft Earth woman across vast distances but they can't do tenth-grade math problems on Coast to Coast? Which again isn't surprising because they're the creation of a woman who herself probably can't perform any actions more difficult that basic addition and subtraction.

Service to Self / Service to Others doesn't divide people into categories. It might sound like this, but in my opinion this is not the case.

Service Others is all about the golden rule. Threat others as you want to be threated.

Service to Self is about love for the self. Ego.

And then there is a third group, those who are undecided.
Most people fall into this last group.

.... agent provocateur with Hell,

..... there are infinite paths, and all ultimately lead to the same place, but some religion or persons are always telling us to disregard all but one path, or else. No wonder the human race has evolved spirit so slowly.

Service to Self / Service to Others doesn't divide people into categories. It might sound like this, but in my opinion this is not the case.

Service Others is all about the golden rule. Threat others as you want to be threated.

Service to Self is about love for the self. Ego.

And then there is a third group, those who are undecided.
Most people fall into this last group.

No different than Christian dogma. Take Nancy's diatribe on STO/STS. replace STS with Sinners, STO with Righteous, 4D paradise on earth with Heaven, agent provocateur with Hell, and Waterworld with Purgatory. Same story, different terms.

In Nancy's universe, there are 3 paths, and only one path is the right one. You are free to choose, but if you choose the wrong one you are damned. Just like Christianity.

The sad part is that there are infinite paths, and all ultimately lead to the same place, but some religion or persons are always telling us to disregard all but one path, or else. No wonder the human race has evolved spirit so slowly.

Service to Self / Service to Others doesn't divide people into categories. It might sound like this, but in my opinion this is not the case.

Service Others is all about the golden rule. Threat others as you want to be threated.

Service to Self is about love for the self. Ego.

And then there is a third group, those who are undecided.
Most people fall into this last group.

No different than Christian dogma. Take Nancy's diatribe on STO/STS. replace STS with Sinners, STO with Righteous, 4D paradise on earth with Heaven, agent provocateur with Hell, and Waterworld with Purgatory. Same story, different terms.

In Nancy's universe, there are 3 paths, and only one path is the right one. You are free to choose, but if you choose the wrong one you are damned. Just like Christianity.

The sad part is that there are infinite paths, and all ultimately lead to the same place, but some religion or persons are always telling us to disregard all but one path, or else. No wonder the human race has evolved spirit so slowly.


First of all. Who says that those who are STO don't sin?. It has nothing to do with sinners or being Rightious.
It is either total love for the self. Or that one cares about another as one cares about himself.

Who says that one who is STO always has to be nice and friendly?

And zetatalk doesn't say that those wo are STS are damned. As there are those who make the switch to STO.

[link to zetatalk.com]

Gerard
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

First of all. Who says that those who are STO don't sin?. It has nothing to do with sinners or being Rightious.
It is either total love for the self. Or that one cares about another as one cares about himself.

Who says that one who is STO always has to be nice and friendly?

Gerard
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

For what i know zetatalk doesn't say that those who are STS are damned.

First of all. Who says that those who are STO don't sin?. It has nothing to do with sinners or being Rightious.
It is either total love for the self. Or that one cares about another as one cares about himself.

Who says that one who is STO always has to be nice and friendly?

Gerard
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

For what i know zetatalk doesn't say that those who are STS are damned.


Nancy says that the STS will be sent to a PP, a planet where STS souls will be imprisoned. The undecided will reincarnate as octopus beings in a water world. Only the people that fall squarely in the STO category will inhabit a renewed earth and make zeta/human hybrid babies. That's what Nancy says. Now tell me how that is different from obeying God and going to heaven, or being sent to hell where there is gnashing of teeth if you are wicked, or spending some time in purgatory if you are lukewarm? It isn't.

The truth is that we are all unique.It is a disservice to all of us to categorize all of humanity into 3 categories.

Good and Evil, selfish and selfless are subjective moralizations. They mean nothing. The universal truth contains light and dark. They are inseparable, they are two sides of the same coin. Human consciousness has trouble seeing the whole picture, which is why we tend to take the whole and break it down into two opposing polarities. We imbue each polarity with a moral value, good or bad, light or dark, evil or righteous. One polarity always has good connotations, and the other is bad.

As long as we continue to put moral judgment on half of all that exists in the universe, we will be led by the noses in fear of punishment and our deeds will be driven by the promise of reward. Until we are all true to our own natures, humanity is not likely to develop in a positive direction.

You're "assuming" that everyone with "any" intelligence views the bible as nothing more than than a superstitious collection of fairy tales sprinkled with a handful of factual historical "settings" such that Pilot really WAS a Roman official, Herod really was a Jewish King, and the Jews actually did have a Temple where the Dome of the Rock sits today. Otherwise - it's TOTAL fiction.

Well - not "everyone" shares your viewpoint BUCKO!

Perhaps there REALLY IS some "reality" behind the "heaven", "purgatory", "hell" triad??? (And yes I know that "purgatory" is a Catholic Doctrine "thing" - and not strictly biblical)

Can't be "proved" of course - BUT CAN'T BE DISMISSED EITHER.

First of all. Who says that those who are STO don't sin?. It has nothing to do with sinners or being Rightious.
It is either total love for the self. Or that one cares about another as one cares about himself.

Who says that one who is STO always has to be nice and friendly?

Gerard
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

For what i know zetatalk doesn't say that those who are STS are damned.


Nancy says that the STS will be sent to a PP, a planet where STS souls will be imprisoned. The undecided will reincarnate as octopus beings in a water world. Only the people that fall squarely in the STO category will inhabit a renewed earth and make zeta/human hybrid babies. That's what Nancy says. Now tell me how that is different from obeying God and going to heaven, or being sent to hell where there is gnashing of teeth if you are wicked, or spending some time in purgatory if you are lukewarm? It isn't.

The truth is that we are all unique.It is a disservice to all of us to categorize all of humanity into 3 categories.

Good and Evil, selfish and selfless are subjective moralizations. They mean nothing. The universal truth contains light and dark. They are inseparable, they are two sides of the same coin. Human consciousness has trouble seeing the whole picture, which is why we tend to take the whole and break it down into two opposing polarities. We imbue each polarity with a moral value, good or bad, light or dark, evil or righteous. One polarity always has good connotations, and the other is bad.

As long as we continue to put moral judgment on half of all that exists in the universe, we will be led by the noses in fear of punishment and our deeds will be driven by the promise of reward. Until we are all true to our own natures, humanity is not likely to develop in a positive direction.

>> Nancy says that the STS will be sent to a PP, a planet where STS souls will be imprisoned. The undecided will reincarnate as octopus beings in a water world. Only the people that fall squarely in the STO category will inhabit a renewed earth and make zeta/human hybrid babies. That's what Nancy says. Now tell me how that is different from obeying God and going to heaven, or being sent to hell where there is gnashing of teeth if you are wicked, or spending some time in purgatory if you are lukewarm? It isn't.

You're "assuming" that everyone with "any" intelligence views the bible as nothing more than than a superstitious collection of fairy tales sprinkled with a handful of factual historical "settings" such that Pilot really WAS a Roman official, Herod really was a Jewish King, and the Jews actually did have a Temple where the Dome of the Rock sits today. Otherwise - it's TOTAL fiction.

Well - not "everyone" shares your viewpoint BUCKO!

Perhaps there REALLY IS some "reality" behind the "heaven", "purgatory", "hell" triad??? (And yes I know that "purgatory" is a Catholic Doctrine "thing" - and not strictly biblical)

Can't be "proved" of course - BUT CAN'T BE DISMISSED EITHER.

Nothing in the spiritual realm can be proven or totally dismissed except as personal opinion. That isn't the basis of the debunker objections to Zetatalk. It is the concrete claims and predictions which are proven to have failed without a doubt, no matter how many lame excuses and bullshit "explanations" Nancy may make. Learn the difference.

Hmmm, I guess your username says it all. Funny how most of Nancy's "supporters" are all anonymous.