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then sling past planets in reverse order: Uranus, Neptune, Saturn and so on. or do you suppose it just appear from nowhere near the Sun?

The order is:
Pluto: 5.913.520.000 km distance
Neptun: 4.504.000.000 km
Uranus: 2.870.990.000 km
Saturn: 1.429.400.000 km

NOT: Uranus, Neptune, Saturn

Zetard shows again he knows nothing and is not even able to google it so does at least not make a total fool out of himself ... AGAIN.

So, according to Andrew, PX occupies a position that is both 'near Pluto' and 'near the Sun.'

Wow, that's admirable mental flexibility. I imagine that plays well in other areas of life, too, allowing one to be 'unemployed and destitute' while remaining 'wealthy and awash in luxury.'

I'll give Andrew the benefit of the doubt and imagine he's claiming that PX was out close to the Oort Cloud a while ago (where 'a while ago' is a ZT term which can mean anything it needs to mean) but that is has bobbled, wobbled, and possibly careened to a point near the Sun, while of course not being observed by anyone anywhere.

Sure. Maybe the Magic Fairies drove it there.

But it 'heated the Earth' at some point?

LOL, now how did it do this? Does it emit Magical Heat Rays which can ponly be felt by certain dumpy old women through the roof of their condo?

because there is no contradiction: if it was to arrive it would first be beyond Pluto, then sling past planets - from outer to inner coming close to the Sun and Earth.

Andrew,

I would just like to say maintain your position. At least you are thinking the world is not what everyone has told us it was . . . of that I am also certain.

a debunker classics - cling to details, trying to shift discussion to details from the main issue, trying to bury the original issue in enless debate about numerous details.

you know what i meant. you know it, i know it. ah well, but lets both continue to pretend.

i wrote reverse order. Neptune and Uranus are very similar - same approximate size, similar color, almost like twin brothers. when i was typing that i was not sure about that pair, bacause i iften "switch" them.

i does not have much significance in what we are talking about - the arrival of Planet X and contradiction in ZetaTalk re this.

because there is no contradiction: if it was to arrive it would first be beyond Pluto, then sling past planets - from outer to inner coming close to the Sun and Earth.

Andrew,

I would just like to say maintain your position. At least you are thinking the world is not what everyone has told us it was . . . of that I am also certain.

Andrew,

I would just like to say maintain your position. At least you are thinking the world is not what everyone has told us it was . . . of that I am also certain.


So you also believe we unworthy non believers of the Zetas will be reborn as Octopus ?

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Well Andrew ... at least you will habe company in the loony bin.

Andrew,

I would just like to say maintain your position. At least you are thinking the world is not what everyone has told us it was . . . of that I am also certain.

Exactly what is "everyone" telling us what the world is? It changes constantly as we learn more. The fact that you don't realize this and accept science fiction with no basis in fact means you're quite gullible...of that I am certain.

Andrew,

I would just like to say maintain your position. At least you are thinking the world is not what everyone has told us it was . . . of that I am also certain.


So you also believe we unworthy non believers of the Zetas will be reborn as Octopus ?

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Well Andrew ... at least you will habe company in the loony bin.



I don't expect to know the future of anyone. However, I can sense that the world is going to change in extreme and difficult ways. What many, many people are saying and feeling is urgency. What the media is expressing is the same thing. Andrew is accepting concepts that are logical and consistent to him. He has the courage to express his position and I like his strength.

Good point. He says that PX is beyond Pluto, but STILL causing warming on Earth? Does he know how FAR Pluto is??

Apparently not. Jupiter and Saturn would be more likely to have an impact on Earth since they're much closer than "Planet X" and yet neither of them do.

Wasn't it Andrew who, just a few pages ago, said there are no contradictions in ZetaTalk? Wasn't it the "Zetas" who said that "Planet X" has been near the sun for the past six years? So...which is it? Is "Planet X" near the sun? Or is it out past Pluto? It it's out past Pluto, then I would say that contradicts ZetaTalk.


it is my own assertion, not ZetaTalk.

i think that it is not yet here, but will be, EXACTLY like described by ZetaTalk - timeline within ZetaTalk is deliberately shifted into the future to warn ahead of the time, as if things that are to come are already happening. it could be considered a type of White Lie, this whole timeline issue. i repeated it number of times here and elsewhere on GLP. and you know what is my take on this quite well, so dont pretend and stop manipulating!

what contradisction? if PX is inbound to Sol system it would first be beyond Pluto, then sling past planets in reverse order: Uranus, Neptune, Saturn and so on. or do you suppose it just appear from nowhere near the Sun?

Andrew stated, without apparent guilt:

"...planets of large size, of approximately the same size and large cannot simply collide - Repulsion Force would prevent this."

Winner of the Most Profoundly Stupid Post on the Entire Internet for This Day.

Gravity, Andrew baby. Look it up. Repulsion Force? <cue laughter>


DECONSTRUCTING THE [BIG] BANG

WHAT BANGED? [Answer - GRAVITATIONAL REPULSION FORCE]

A common misconception is that the big bang provides a theory of cosmic origins. It doesn't. The big bang is a theory, partly described in the last two chapters, that deliniates cosmic evolution from a split second after whatever happened to bring the universe into existence, but it says nothing at all about zero time itself. And since, according to the big bang theory, the bang is what is supposed to have happened at the beginning, the big bang leaves out the bang. It tells us nothing about banged, why it banged, how it banged, or, frankly, whether it ever really banged at all. In fact if you think about it for a moment, you’ll realize that the big bang presents us with quite a puzzle. At the huge densities of matter and energy characteristic of the universe’s earliest moments, gravity was by far the dominant force. But gravity is an attractive force. It impels things to come together. So what could possibly be responsible for the outward force that drove space to expand? It would seem that some kind of powerful repulsive force must have played a critical role at the time of the bang, but which of nature’s forces could that possibly be?

For many decades this most basic of all cosmological questions went unanswered. Then, in the 1980s, an old observation of Einstein’s was resurrected in a sparkling new form, giving rise to what has become known as inflationary cosmology. And with this discovery, credit for the bang could finally be bestowed on the deserving force: gravity. It’s surprising, but physicists realized that in just the right environment gravity can be repulsive …

Brian R. Greene, The Fabric of the Cosmos: Space, Time, and the Texture of Reality,
Vintage Books – A division of Random House, Inc., New York, 2004, pgs. 272-273.

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ZetaTalk: Repulsion Force
Note: written on Sep 15, 1995.

Scientists are acutely aware of the attraction force inherent in gravity, as are folks in general. The babe learns about this early, while taking his first few steps. Oops. Ouch! It is assumed that gravity has only an attractive force, and that the planets, in orbit around the Sun, are held in place by their momentum. Does this make sense? What caused the momentum in the first place? Children play with a ball on the end of a string, swinging it around and around their head. As long as the arm is tugging, the ball maintains its orbit, else stops. Why would the planets not drift into the Sun? Are the orbits all that swift so that centrifugal force is extreme?
The reason Mankind is Unaware of a repulsive force, also inherent in gravity, is that for this to become evident there must be a semblance of equality in size and weight, i.e. the mass of the objects, and freedom of movement such as exists in space, and lack of undue influence from other nearby objects. Objects on the surface of the Earth have none of these. They are infinitesimal in proportion to the Earth itself, and thus any repulsion the Earth may have toward a tiny speck on its surface is also infinitesimal. Proportionally, its all gravity, a one way trip. The object on the surface, pushing away, is overwhelmed by the Earth's gravitational pull, the attraction. The repulsion force is generated as a result of two bodies exerting a gravitational force on each other. In the case of a tiny object on the surface of the Earth, its gravitational pull on the Earth is scarcely noticed by the Earth. A gnat or mite. A nothing. Where the repulsion force has not been invoked within the Earth by any objects placed on the surface of the Earth, this is in play between the Earth and her Moon. The repulsion force is invoked between objects on the surface of the Earth, incessantly, but this is masked by the intense force of gravity the Earth presents and other factors such as surface tension or friction or chemical bonding so that the repulsion force cannot be recognized.
The gravitational force exists first. It is the static condition. The repulsion phenomena only manifests when, as we said, the objects are of equal size, are free to move, and dominate the immediate environment. Where the repulsion force comes to equal the force of gravity by the time the objects in play would make contact, it builds at a rate that differs from gravity. Humans have calculated the force of gravity, which at first they assumed was equal for all objects but lately have come to understand is stronger for larger objects. They have formulas for the force of gravity which have proved accurate on the face of their home planet. These formulas are incomplete, and would not work as expected elsewhere, however. The repulsion force is infinitesimally smaller than the force of gravity, but has a sharper curve so that it equals the force of gravity at the point of contact. For experimental purposes, one would have to be almost at the point of contact for it to come into play at all, and this in an environment where other factors are eliminated or negated. To examine the phenomena, Earth scientists would have to set up a lab in space, far enough away from any planetary body so that free movement is possible. Place two balls in a cage. Put one in motion toward another. Microscopically examine the interchange. They do not touch. They do not bounce off one another. They do not touch.

Zetas RIGHT Again !

:zright:

Dark Twin was never supposed to crash with Earth,

by the way,

i think new major frontiers for fundamental science will be:

1. research into so called "paranormal phenomena" [telepathy, levitation, etc] and finding particle flows that conduct it.

2. aknowledgment of the Alien Presence fact (including Paleocontact and Government Conspiracy).

3. research into reality of human spirit, reincarnation.

these are the most general directions, of course

as a part of this New Science and its new paradigm will be acceptance of one more way of knowledge - intuitive, introspection,subjective theorising.

New Science will be forced to rediscover the subject, the researcher himself and spiritual realms. science of the future is psychology, it will be leading direction.

Ah, I see ZetaMax is exercising his renowned cut-n-paste skills!

Too bad he doesn't choose instead to exercise his capacity for *reading comprehension.*

I'll provide you with the short version, Max old bean.

Nothing you posted has anything to do with some magical force that would 'prevent planets from colliding.'

Try educating yourself before you execute your next graphic-heavy yay Zetas cut-n-paste. You won't look so silly so often.

Zetas right again, lol -- your neutrality is showing, Max!

its not "someone", its whole Scientific community!

So because at some point in time, some "community" didn't know about asteroids, that means PX is real? You can't be serious.


first, it is just one example of many.

it says alot about their credibility

and it exposes them for what they are -
* science is "consensus reality" [="reality is what we agreed upon it is"], which has to take into account the possibility that those who decided could be WRONG.

* science presumes to know all. out of this presumption comes its greatest blunders.

[at the same time it cannot admit that they DONT know all, because it damages its credibility in the eyes of people who want to be in charge of nature, environment and their world]

i think that it is not yet here, but will be, EXACTLY like described by ZetaTalk

How can it be EXACTLY like when ZetaTalk when ZetaTalk says its already here? You can't have it both ways.

i think that it is not yet here, but will be, EXACTLY like described by ZetaTalk

How can it be EXACTLY like when ZetaTalk when ZetaTalk says its already here? You can't have it both ways.


it could be a white lie, a ploy.

everything except last weeks signs happened exactly like ZetaTalk predicted

yes, the whole scientific community was wrong in XIX century about meteorites and coined their ignorance in a statement that "stones cannot fall from the sky".

But, we're not talking about the XIX century now are we? Gee, wasn't it you that claimed "debunkers" were guilty of spinning?


how and why should this be any different in XX cen?

You have not even a clue how much knowledge you DONT have.

Dark Twin was never supposed to crash with Earth, nor could it - planets of large size, of approximately the same size and large cannot simply collide - Repulsion Force would prevent this.

That's not what Nancy and the "Zetas" said. You contradict them again.


The gravitational force exists first. It is the static condition. The repulsion phenomena only manifests when, as we said, the objects are of equal size, are free to move, and dominate the immediate environment. Where the repulsion force comes to equal the force of gravity by the time the objects in play would make contact, it builds at a rate that differs from gravity.

and: you dont even know how much you DONT KNOW about Zetatalk....

what contradisction?

Andrew stated, without apparent guilt:

"...planets of large size, of approximately the same size and large cannot simply collide - Repulsion Force would prevent this."

Winner of the Most Profoundly Stupid Post on the Entire Internet for This Day.

Gravity, Andrew baby. Look it up. Repulsion Force? <cue laughter>

I brought this up on Nancy's thread last week. I've been asking you to discuss it, but you keep skipping over it. Why?

Was just looking for the date at which "Zetas" claim Earth is halted, but found this instead:

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"Because NASA also has a dilemma in the Earth’s dark twin rounding the bend and coming up behind it in the orbit path they share. This will become visible soon, if not already, and will come close to the Earth before other dramas intervene."


Hmm... Nancy has been claiming that the "Dark Twin" cannot be seen. Hmm... Who is lying, Nancy or "Zetas"? Hmm...

Any of you believers dare to ask about this gaffe?


I note that ws written FIVE and A HALF YEARS AGO...wonder what's become of Nancy's imaginary "Dark Twin" that was supposed to smash us in the ass years ago?


Dark Twin was never supposed to crash with Earth, nor could it - planets of large size, of approximately the same size and large cannot simply collide - Repulsion Force would prevent this.

Andrew stated, without apparent guilt:

"...planets of large size, of approximately the same size and large cannot simply collide - Repulsion Force would prevent this."

Winner of the Most Profoundly Stupid Post on the Entire Internet for This Day.

Gravity, Andrew baby. Look it up. Repulsion Force? <cue laughter>


Repilsion Force - [link to www.zetatalk.com]

Science section - [link to www.zetatalk.com]