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I see there was a large earthquake off the coast of American Samoa.



Just an observation on this unstable area and looking for discussion.

When looking at the topography of the Pacific Ocean, it sure is broken up and faulted. Big scars running North South.

Then considering the Continental drift of continents from an original Godwanaland.

And the existance of the rubble we call the asteroid belt

Does make me wonder whether something clipped our planet eons ago.

Kindest Regards
JWD

I see there was a large earthquake off the coast of American Samoa.



Just an observation on this unstable area and looking for discussion.

When looking at the topography of the Pacific Ocean, it sure is broken up and faulted. Big scars running North South.

Then considering the Continental drift of continents from an original Godwanaland.

And the existance of the rubble we call the asteroid belt

Does make me wonder whether something clipped our planet eons ago.

Kindest Regards
JWD



Look at the formation of the Moon, something did clip us billions of years ago which resulted in our Moon.

But when that happened the Earth was essentially molten so no direct evidence of that impact remains on Earth. It was not until we got samples from the Moon and the computing power to do the calculations that the origin of the Moon was figured out.

Hope this helps.

I see there was a large earthquake off the coast of American Samoa.



Just an observation on this unstable area and looking for discussion.

When looking at the topography of the Pacific Ocean, it sure is broken up and faulted. Big scars running North South.

Then considering the Continental drift of continents from an original Godwanaland.

And the existance of the rubble we call the asteroid belt

Does make me wonder whether something clipped our planet eons ago.

Kindest Regards
JWD



Look at the formation of the Moon, something did clip us billions of years ago which resulted in our Moon.

But when that happened the Earth was essentially molten so no direct evidence of that impact remains on Earth. It was not until we got samples from the Moon and the computing power to do the calculations that the origin of the Moon was figured out.

Hope this helps.


ThanX
Appreciate you working this through with me.

Some further questions, and there'll be more if you let me ;o)

1) The moon rocks brought back were the same composition as earth?

2)Would it be right to say that based on what we see in the terrain under the Pacific, something scooped out a chunk of the Pacific after Godwanaland was floating on the surface and godwanaland then began to break up into its present continental position? Or is this pre existing to solid surfaces?

3) If our planet had more mass, such as before any "clipping" occurred, would it have a different orbit?


Regards
JWD

back in about 45 minutes.
I need time to read through your source material

Regards
JWD

I see there was a large earthquake off the coast of American Samoa.



Just an observation on this unstable area and looking for discussion.

When looking at the topography of the Pacific Ocean, it sure is broken up and faulted. Big scars running North South.

Then considering the Continental drift of continents from an original Godwanaland.

And the existance of the rubble we call the asteroid belt

Does make me wonder whether something clipped our planet eons ago.

Kindest Regards
JWD



Look at the formation of the Moon, something did clip us billions of years ago which resulted in our Moon.

But when that happened the Earth was essentially molten so no direct evidence of that impact remains on Earth. It was not until we got samples from the Moon and the computing power to do the calculations that the origin of the Moon was figured out.

Hope this helps.


ThanX
Appreciate you working this through with me.

Some further questions, and there'll be more if you let me ;o)

1) The moon rocks brought back were the same composition as earth?

2)Would it be right to say that based on what we see in the terrain under the Pacific, something scooped out a chunk of the Pacific after Godwanaland was floating on the surface and godwanaland then began to break up into its present continental position? Or is this pre existing to solid surfaces?

3) If our planet had more mass, such as before any "clipping" occurred, would it have a different orbit?


Regards
JWD



Before we start, some sources:

[link to www.psi.edu]

[link to www.swri.org]

[link to www.space.com]

1) While the lunar rocks had the same elements as terrestrial rocks, they were assembled in different ways which reflected their different origin. In addition they were almost completely devoid of volatiles, most notably water. There MAY have been a VERY small quantity of water which was attributed at the time to contamination, but more recent work has placed this in some doubt.

The lunar samples returned were mostly what we would call basalts if they were here on Earth, but their different elemental and isotopic compasition makes them unique specimens. Of course it would help a lot if we had other documented samples from other worlds so we could tell how typical these differences are, and in due course we will.

2) My understanding is this impact predated a solid terrestrial surface, but I am not 100% sure of that. Gonna have to do so digging. GOOD question!

3) Nope, the orbit would have been pretty much the same. The Sun, being so much more massive than the Earth is really the driver of the Earth's orbit. Now the barycenter may have changed, but I bet it wasn't by much, perhaps on the order of meters.

Hope this helps, feel free to ask folow on questions!

Once I figured out a great many of them were collecting here at GLP before screwing up the courage to take on sci.astro I came here to the font of all lunacy.

That was in late Nov. 2002.

Have fun.

R.
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I see there was a large earthquake off the coast of American Samoa.



Just an observation on this unstable area and looking for discussion.

When looking at the topography of the Pacific Ocean, it sure is broken up and faulted. Big scars running North South.

Then considering the Continental drift of continents from an original Godwanaland.

And the existance of the rubble we call the asteroid belt

Does make me wonder whether something clipped our planet eons ago.

Kindest Regards
JWD



Look at the formation of the Moon, something did clip us billions of years ago which resulted in our Moon.

But when that happened the Earth was essentially molten so no direct evidence of that impact remains on Earth. It was not until we got samples from the Moon and the computing power to do the calculations that the origin of the Moon was figured out.

Hope this helps.


ThanX
Appreciate you working this through with me.

Some further questions, and there'll be more if you let me ;o)

1) The moon rocks brought back were the same composition as earth?

2)Would it be right to say that based on what we see in the terrain under the Pacific, something scooped out a chunk of the Pacific after Godwanaland was floating on the surface and godwanaland then began to break up into its present continental position? Or is this pre existing to solid surfaces?

3) If our planet had more mass, such as before any "clipping" occurred, would it have a different orbit?


Regards
JWD



Before we start, some sources:

[link to www.psi.edu]

[link to www.swri.org]

[link to www.space.com]

1) While the lunar rocks had the same elements as terrestrial rocks, they were assembled in different ways which reflected their different origin. In addition they were almost completely devoid of volatiles, most notably water. There MAY have been a VERY small quantity of water which was attributed at the time to contamination, but more recent work has placed this in some doubt.

The lunar samples returned were mostly what we would call basalts if they were here on Earth, but their different elemental and isotopic compasition makes them unique specimens. Of course it would help a lot if we had other documented samples from other worlds so we could tell how typical these differences are, and in due course we will.

2) My understanding is this impact predated a solid terrestrial surface, but I am not 100% sure of that. Gonna have to do so digging. GOOD question!

3) Nope, the orbit would have been pretty much the same. The Sun, being so much more massive than the Earth is really the driver of the Earth's orbit. Now the barycenter may have changed, but I bet it wasn't by much, perhaps on the order of meters.

Hope this helps, feel free to ask folow on questions!



Based on your source material.
And recognizing that presented scenarios are hypothetical.

1) I also see the moon lacks iron,while being of similar composition to earth. Under some scenarios on source pages this can be explained by the earth (and colliding planet) losing sections of their mantle, which formed the moon out of the mantle debris low in iron. That's a reasonable theory.

2)Would another possibility be Godwanaland forming on the other side of the globe at the time of collision as a solidified bulge opposite the collision point?

My original line of reasoning being that the continental drift sure appears to be moving plates to scar over a missing piece of planet skin in the Pacific.

3) Well, that shoots that idea all to hell ;o)
To expand your answer further;
What is the explanation (layman's formula) of the orbital requirements for a planets distance from the Sun?
ie: Why is jupiter where it is and the earth where it is?



I'm out of here for the night, but appreciate your continued responses, and hope we may continue tomorrow.

Kindest Regards
J.William Dell

I just find it interesting, that the more events start to track along Nancy's projections, the more the debunkers act like juveniles.


:EThigh:...You sure you ain't smoking the good ZitaShit!!!

Off topic;
I'm curious why we have posters called reality420 and Earth420.
What is the significance of "420" ?
If ya don't mind me asking.

Ah....it's GREAT being a debunker. NEVER have I felt so confident about being on the winning side!

I just find it interesting, that the more events start to track along Nancy's projections, the more the debunkers act like juveniles.


...You sure you ain't smoking the good ZitaShit!!!


One can only hope they have good weed and the sensibility to enjoy its benefits.

NO. You quacks just jump all everybody that says....

YOU use the word quacks?

for others?

Holy shit, how sick can people get ....look for some prescription, the sooner the better.

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"look for some presciption" ... what the fuck does this mean?

This is the level of intellect coming from team debunker. Not surprising, eh?

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It means that you should look for psychological treatment.

And it is just caring for preparing abetter life for you.

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"And it is just caring for preparing abetter life for you"?

What are you, some kind of complete moron? You cannot even construct a sentence that makes sense and yet you are here to tell us how wrong and stupid "we" are.

You define debunker logic and level of intellect. Looks good on ya! It looks like you should work on yourself some more ... maybe a little more education would help?

All the bunkers are at a mandatory ZetaTalk meeting this morning, sharpening their parroting skills.

I love how they start their meetings by repeating the ZT mantra -- "Incoming, incoming, soon, soon, soon!"

Then they try and fail to high-five each other, sometimes resulting in minor injuries.

I just find it interesting, that the more events start to track along Nancy's projections, the more the debunkers act like juveniles.

I see there was a large earthquake off the coast of American Samoa.



Just an observation on this unstable area and looking for discussion.

When looking at the topography of the Pacific Ocean, it sure is broken up and faulted. Big scars running North South.

Then considering the Continental drift of continents from an original Godwanaland.

And the existance of the rubble we call the asteroid belt

Does make me wonder whether something clipped our planet eons ago.

Kindest Regards
JWD



Look at the formation of the Moon, something did clip us billions of years ago which resulted in our Moon.

But when that happened the Earth was essentially molten so no direct evidence of that impact remains on Earth. It was not until we got samples from the Moon and the computing power to do the calculations that the origin of the Moon was figured out.

Hope this helps.

Another 6.9 EQ in Sumatra reported on Europe morning news .... man, Nancy is going to get crazy like a frog on this this weekend ... maybe she might even pull another 2003 now , saying the end is nigh, very nigh ... "C'mon Rover ... over here ... wuff wuff ... it wont hurt ya " ?

Going to be a crazy ZetaTalk this weekend ... lets prepare for a major debunking session.

I bet she and her followers are sooo happy now that many people died (lowlife STS people they were anyways they think, going to be reborn on waterworld). Of course EQs in major EQ-areas are totally unusual and PX has to be the reason for this.

I just know that this reality...... :Top500: .....pains you so Melfy but be of good cheer. At least you can take comfort in the fact that you have contributed in everyway to its great success!!

Well done Fence Shitter!!

It says nothing about their credibility. As humans evolved and learned, theories changed. When science was wrong about something, scientists admitted it. This is something Nancy and her followers do not do...and the "Zetas" admit to lying and murder...which says a lot about their credibility.


Andrew sees science the way they view their cult, either all
of it is right or all of it must be wrong. He can't accept
that science is a living and changing and self-correcting
thing, because HIS worldview doesn't have that.

Andrew, nobody censored you, it is an autocensor. The same thing happened to me. I posted the words P (word starting with P which is synonymous with Jail) Planet and the bot changed it to agent provocateur. I assume it is because a certain whacko has a website with that same name. You visit this site enough to know that certain terms will automatically be censored, yet you jump immediately to the conclusion that someone is out to get you.

didnt know about it. hm..

why that phrase is not allowed? isnt it sick?!

you not only lack any independent thinking, you also lack any reason and reading/comprehending skills

Just wanted to say ... I had a good friend who commited suicide over crap like this ... he was into Aleister Crowley and more the occult stuff ... finally went nuts, began to hear voices ... shaved his head and soon thereafter laid that same head on the rails so the train crushed it ... no kidding ... You people can believe what you want ... but please dont indoctrinate others.

I just know that this reality...... .....pains you so Melfy but be of good cheer. At least you can take comfort in the fact that you have contributed in everyway to its great success!!

Well done Fence Shitter!!

The Mayans issued a statement warning that the window of devastating change extended beyond 2012 to 2015.

So this means what? You won't give up on ZetaTalk until 2015?

It says nothing about their credibility. As humans evolved and learned, theories changed. When science was wrong about something, scientists admitted it. This is something Nancy and her followers do not do...and the "Zetas" admit to lying and murder...which says a lot about their credibility.


Andrew sees science the way they view their cult, either all
of it is right or all of it must be wrong. He can't accept
that science is a living and changing and self-correcting
thing, because HIS worldview doesn't have that.


i feel sorry for you, Postie

you not only lack any independent thinking, you also lack any reason and reading/comprehending skills

and as for me, no i will NOT "give up" on ZetaTalk when 2015 arrives.