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You forgot this one:

Always when the hard questions come up...

How come the RA and Declinations of objects appear in published star guides, if those numbers supposedly change?


OK, Nancy is ignorant. I thought that RA (right angle) was the same as Azimuth and Dec (declination) was the same as Altitude. The fixed position is taken at the vernal equinox using the Sun as a fixed position for Greenwich as a fixed location. Then degrees are added or subtracted for viewing from a different location or time.
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Nevertheless, that video on Planet X being way out in the night sky is a hoax.
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Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat July 26 (Page 11)
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Some of the great lines from 2007....

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The human posting as ***ZetaMax*** was on the 31st Floor of Tower One of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. I was sitting in my cubicle working on a Perl program, when American Airlines Flight 11 slammed into the North Tower - the one I was working in.
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FAIL!
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


That's OK Flunky, It's nice to see you're finally admitting that you were wrong.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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That's OK Flunky, It's nice to see you're finally admitting that you were wrong.
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Sometimes I miss the "Old Timer" - he surely would have posted this video for your "edification". Now I'm NOT making the same "accusation", but when I saw this video, I couldn't help but be reminded of his "slurs". I share this for it's "amusement" value:


 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Melfy; so the "Old Timer" is on ya mind eh?

Now if one was to juxtaposition your statement that...."Sometimes I miss the "Old Timer" -"...with the video you posted then one can only assume where you are coming from, Melfy.

tlr23 You and the "Old Timer".....hmmmm.

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When it comes to being wrong, Nancy wrote the manual!
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 Quoting: Coolhandluke74


Congrats on becoming a GLP Forum Moderator, CHL.

Dawesome , LUKE.

Big_smile LOL!! I'm sure some of those ACtard posters that "despise" your talents in the "GLP Chat" so much and on the forum will be even more spiteful now.....you know with their wittle knickers in a twist!!

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When it comes to being wrong, Nancy wrote the manual!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1121092


Yep. And at least we can praise Ms LIEDer with being an expert on something..... KHaha
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So I wonder if ZM will give you guys credit for being more fair in your moderation than Nancy ever was...
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So I wonder if ZM will give you guys credit for being more fair in your moderation than Nancy ever was...
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Good question. Seems to me TLR could do the same thing to him that Nancy did to "debunkers" be banning him and deleting his posts whenever he says anything that supports CrazyTalk....I mean ZetaTalk.
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So I wonder if ZM will give you guys credit for being more fair in your moderation than Nancy ever was...
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Hmmm - you guys are NOT doing a "live chat" with a singular "in demand" personality. The subject line on this thread is indeed a "lie" as far as that goes. (Not even a "white" lie.) Also, no one is suffering from dozens of hateful spam posts done in the span of few seconds or minutes by multiple simultaneous posters that end up sometimes putting PAGES of nonsense and venom between Nancy's posts - as well as contributor's LEGITIMATE (not debunker contrived) questions that deserve a serious response from the Zetas. This impaired her chats because it took valuable ***TIME*** for her to actually wade through all that SPAM - time robbed from both her and legitimately interested followers who were there to read ***HER*** posts - not debunker posts. As a result, she posted less, followers got LESS, and the effect was that the debunkers interference resulted in a VERY dissatisfying chat experience for everyone involved ... except of course the "debunkers".

None of that is happening, and has NEVER happened in this thread. So the comparison is invalid.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 10/06/2010 01:31 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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<SNIP Whining bullshit>

 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Methinks 'it' doth protest too much.
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"..."as well as contributor's LEGITIMATE (not debunker contrived) questions that deserve a serious response from the Zetas..."

Right... as if questions which expose Nancy(and "Zetas") lies are not 'legitimate' ones.

Heh.
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Before I knew she was a fruitcake, I tried asking a question once and was greeted with rudeness and sarcasm. I was very polite, there was no reason for it.
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She told me she hoped I died in the Pole Shift, way back in the day.

Of course she said it in the most compassionate and Service to Others way possible. It was a true Mother Teresa moment, followed by a hint of Joan of Arc...
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<SNIP Whining bullshit>



Methinks 'it' doth protest too much.
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Big_smile You summed up Melfy's wittle rant just perfectly!!
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She told me she hoped I died in the Pole Shift, way back in the day.

Of course she said it in the most compassionate and Service to Others way possible. It was a true Mother Teresa moment, followed by a hint of Joan of Arc...
 Quoting: The_Returner


Funny that ... I don't particulary recall your posts as "subdued" or "deferential".
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Hmmm - you guys are NOT doing a "live chat" with a singular "in demand" personality. The subject line on this thread is indeed a "lie" as far as that goes.
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Doing_it

So are you saying we already died in the Poleshift that never happened and we are responding to this Thread as corpses from beyond the grave...... scratching

This is a "Live Chat 24/7!!".....unlike Ms LIEDer's FAILED chat sessions which were basically a cut 'n' paste babble crap hour from a FAILED cult LIEDer.......except of course Nancy possibly had her BEST "Live Chat" session on GLP when her modem FAILED and the majority of GLPers were spared a week's worth of the woman's nonsense.
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So I wonder if ZM will give you guys credit for being more fair in your moderation than Nancy ever was...


Hmmm - you guys are NOT doing a "live chat" with a singular "in demand" personality. The subject line on this thread is indeed a "lie" as far as that goes. (Not even a "white" lie.) Also, no one is suffering from dozens of hateful spam posts done in the span of few seconds or minutes by multiple simultaneous posters that end up sometimes putting PAGES of nonsense and venom between Nancy's posts - as well as contributor's LEGITIMATE (not debunker contrived) questions that deserve a serious response from the Zetas. This impaired her chats because it took valuable ***TIME*** for her to actually wade through all that SPAM - time robbed from both her and legitimately interested followers who were there to read ***HER*** posts - not debunker posts. As a result, she posted less, followers got LESS, and the effect was that the debunkers interference resulted in a VERY dissatisfying chat experience for everyone involved ... except of course the "debunkers".

None of that is happening, and has NEVER happened in this thread. So the comparison is invalid.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


And yet, when the debunkers boycotted her chats, she got less than half as many hits, and her true popularity (or lack of it) became quite apparent. Then believers/apologists came to this thread to *incite* debunkers to go over to hers.

There *has* been spamming of this thread, but Postman and other moderators have done a good job cleaning it up.

I also think you demonstrate your lack of fence-sitting ability, by claiming all "debunker contrived" posts were "illegitimate." I had some very legitimate criticisms of her astronomical claims -- and I was never rude/condescending in asking them. Yet, my questions were deleted, if only because in answering them would expose MORE lies in the Zetatalk mythology.

YOUR posts, as an example, would be deleted by Nancy unanswered, on this thread, were it run the same way as Nancy runs her chats. That they are not speaks well of this thread moderators, and not so well for Nancy's moderating prowess and fairness. You cannot deny this, logically.
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That's the problem...ZM doesn't know anything about logic.
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Several debunkers, myself included did point out to her that she obviously didn't know how to read coordinates, a legitimate and pertinent observation, but those who dared say it were called paid shills, were the targets of personal attacks and some felt the heavy handed ban hammer because of it. Later, Nancy herself had to admit that she didn't understand that RA and Dec were not the same thing as Alt and Azimuth. Did she apologize? Did she admit that maybe we weren't paid shills after all, just people that knew more than her about the subject? No, of course she didn't. This is just one example of how debunkers raised valid points. If it looked like we flooded the board with comments that made her look bad, I would say it's probably because everything Nancy wrote was wrong and begged for someone to correct her ignorance.
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Before I knew she was a fruitcake, I tried asking a question once and was greeted with rudeness and sarcasm. I was very polite, there was no reason for it.
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That's Nancy for ya!

If you don't just meekly accept everything she writes you are regarded as 'disruptive'!
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Congrats on becoming a GLP Forum Moderator, CHL.

Dawesome , LUKE.

Big_smile LOL!! I'm sure some of those ACtard posters that "despise" your talents in the "GLP Chat" so much and on the forum will be even more spiteful now.....you know with their wittle knickers in a twist!!
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Several debunkers, myself included did point out to her that she obviously didn't know how to read coordinates, a legitimate and pertinent observation, but those who dared say it were called paid shills, were the targets of personal attacks and some felt the heavy handed ban hammer because of it. Later, Nancy herself had to admit that she didn't understand that RA and Dec were not the same thing as Alt and Azimuth. Did she apologize? Did she admit that maybe we weren't paid shills after all, just people that knew more than her about the subject? No, of course she didn't. This is just one example of how debunkers raised valid points. If it looked like we flooded the board with comments that made her look bad, I would say it's probably because everything Nancy wrote was wrong and begged for someone to correct her ignorance.
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Her ignorance knows no bounds. The same can be said about her followers on poleshift.
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Congrats on becoming a GLP Forum Moderator, CHL.

Dawesome , LUKE.

Big_smile LOL!! I'm sure some of those ACtard posters that "despise" your talents in the "GLP Chat" so much and on the forum will be even more spiteful now.....you know with their wittle knickers in a twist!!

catdance

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Hmm - why are my "adversaries" always given SUPER POWERS!! (it's not fair!)
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Hmm - why are my "adversaries" always given SUPER POWERS!! (it's not fair!)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


Hold it together now, Melfy.

Do not, I REPEAT, do not let the success that others experience get to you.

I would however suggest a somewhat helpful and quick solution, epsecially for you Melfy, which may end your so called perceived feelings of "unfairness"...... tlr22
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Before I knew she was a fruitcake, I tried asking a question once and was greeted with rudeness and sarcasm. I was very polite, there was no reason for it.


That's Nancy for ya!

If you don't just meekly accept everything she writes you are regarded as 'disruptive'!
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Not true. Nancy has produced ZetaTalk.com where every chat has been archived for scholarly study. Nancy only refused to answer questions that had already been answered and available at her website. Goto [link to zetatalk.com]
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Several debunkers, myself included did point out to her that she obviously didn't know how to read coordinates, a legitimate and pertinent observation, but those who dared say it were called paid shills, were the targets of personal attacks and some felt the heavy handed ban hammer because of it. Later, Nancy herself had to admit that she didn't understand that RA and Dec were not the same thing as Alt and Azimuth. Did she apologize? Did she admit that maybe we weren't paid shills after all, just people that knew more than her about the subject? No, of course she didn't. This is just one example of how debunkers raised valid points. If it looked like we flooded the board with comments that made her look bad, I would say it's probably because everything Nancy wrote was wrong and begged for someone to correct her ignorance.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Not only did she NOT apologize, she didn't take responsibility for it either. She blamed it on the "technology" used and said, again, that stuff gets lost in translation. Utter bullshit because she could have easily looked it up for years instead of ignoring what others were trying to tell her. But then, if you look at all the mistakes and errors she's made over the years, she never takes responsibility for it. She's always blaming someone or something else. What are some other examples? For starters, the great "white lie." It should have been obvious even to Nancy that the "pole shift" wasn't going to happen in 2003 because "Planet X" wasn't, and hadn't been, undeniable in the sky as the "Zetas" claimed it would be. In fact, they said "Planet X" would be quite obvious for something like 7 weeks before the actual shift...with people walking around numb with shock. That didn't happen. Nor were there any signs that the government was about to implement Marshal Law. There were no military vehicles set up in strategic locations to block access to freeways, railroad stations or airports. No reserve or National Guard personnel had been called up to active duty...other than those sent to Iraq. In fact, because of the Iraq invasion, the U.S. government didn't have the manpower or equipment to enforce Marshal Law. They wouldn't have been able to do it even if the U.S. hadn't invaded. How would the military be able to control the millions of people that would be trying to flee? Yeah, we know how Nancy claims fear would have kept them in line. Fear of what? Being shot and killed? Yeah, sure. Why would I fear that when I knew I was likely going to die anyway because of some "pole shift" caused by some "rogue planet" that was bearing down on Earth? And with millions of people rushing these soldiers, how many people do you think they'd be able to take out before they were overpowered? Besides, the "Zetas" said that because of Nancy's efforts, the U.S. government would not succeed with their plans. Local law enforcement and military personnel would allow people to flee. So, even though none of the precursor events were happening, Nancy continued to insist that "Planet X" was here and that the "pole shift" was going to happen. When it didn't, did she admit she was wrong? No. Instead, she blamed it all on the "Zetas" for lying to her...when she could have seen they were lying to her if she had just looked around her.

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Not true. Nancy has produced ZetaTalk.com where every chat has been archived for scholarly study.....
 Quoting: ***ZetaMaX***


tlr24tlr24tlr24tlr24

You are so the comedian at times, Melfy.
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...Nancy only refused to answer questions that had already been answered and available at her website. Goto [link to zetatalk.com]
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Meter_BS

Your beloved LIEDer refused to debate people who had the knowledge; understanding; and ability to debunk and expose every fraudulent and nonsensical statement she ever produced during her chat.

Please refrain from being so totally nieve and deceptive, Melfster.
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