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Watch this...

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Let's see how quickly she brings out the banhammer.


What, specifically, was the bannable offense? Or has it been removed already?


Banned already. Basically, I stated that none of what Nancy was claiming had actually happened and that her statement about the Eurasian, North American and Pacific plates was silly since they didn't join anywhere and provided the map shown earlier today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


yet comments like

Thank you Nancy for the latest. If the peoples of the developed world aren't already shocked by events in Sri Lanka, Brazil, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Fiji & Australia then they're either asleep or dead

remain

if it had never happened before perhaps the world would be a little more shocked.

still waiting for the sinking
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So, Max, what do you think about her claim that the North American, Eurasian and Pacific plates join?


Just add that one to the long list of things she either doesn't know how to do and know about.

She can't read a map.

She also knows nothing about tides, seismology, geology, plate tectonics, astronomy, aviation...ad infinitum.
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for someone supposedly transmitting messages from a higher more intelligent beings.She channels the most illogical things then tells us we humans dont have a clue.
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So, Max, what do you think about her claim that the North American, Eurasian and Pacific plates join?


Just add that one to the long list of things she either doesn't know how to do and know about.

She can't read a map.

She also knows nothing about tides, seismology, geology, plate tectonics, astronomy, aviation...ad infinitum.


for someone supposedly transmitting messages from a higher more intelligent beings.She channels the most illogical things then tells us we humans dont have a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1231314


She definitely knows nothing about tides. She continues to claim that the tsunami buoys (SAIC STB) show the ocean floor undulating in height.

Dare I say the woman has probably never lived by the ocean and watched the tide come in and out?

I get to see tidal action twice a day while driving to and from work - I have to drive over one of the tidal inlets on the outskirts of town.
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That's all right. Bill O'Reilley doesn't understand tides either.
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She definitely knows nothing about tides. She continues to claim that the tsunami buoys (SAIC STB) show the ocean floor undulating in height.

Dare I say the woman has probably never lived by the ocean and watched the tide come in and out?

I get to see tidal action twice a day while driving to and from work - I have to drive over one of the tidal inlets on the outskirts of town.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1231322

Yeah, it gets pretty ridiculous. It's like she's totally blocked out the fact that the Y axis on those graphs is "water column height" and not "sea floor position." I mean, she posts stuff like this:

The sea floor had risen, then fallen, and these past couple weeks was positively undulating. So a "drop" in the sea floor (which has been at this for awhile in the Coral Sea) must be taken in the context of when a reading starts. It would just be dropping back to normal!
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Huh, I wonder what could cause a sort of cyclical rising and falling in the height of the water column. Must be tectonic plates bouncing up and down, there's just no other explanation!

Someone should post a graph from like 10 years ago on the other side of the world with some of the text changed. I'm sure she'd see it as proof that the sea floor is doing something SHOCKING.

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from looking at the buoy data over the last 4 months

it has consitantly gone from the 3283.whatever to 3284.whatever

2011 01 15 23 45 00 1 3284.115

2010 12 24 22 45 00 1 3284.231

2010 11 26 00 45 00 1 3284.267

2010 10 28 02 30 00 1 3284.205

for example
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She definitely knows nothing about tides. She continues to claim that the tsunami buoys (SAIC STB) show the ocean floor undulating in height.

Dare I say the woman has probably never lived by the ocean and watched the tide come in and out?

I get to see tidal action twice a day while driving to and from work - I have to drive over one of the tidal inlets on the outskirts of town.

Yeah, it gets pretty ridiculous. It's like she's totally blocked out the fact that the Y axis on those graphs is "water column height" and not "sea floor position." I mean, she posts stuff like this:

The sea floor had risen, then fallen, and these past couple weeks was positively undulating. So a "drop" in the sea floor (which has been at this for awhile in the Coral Sea) must be taken in the context of when a reading starts. It would just be dropping back to normal!
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Huh, I wonder what could cause a sort of cyclical rising and falling in the height of the water column. Must be tectonic plates bouncing up and down, there's just no other explanation!

Someone should post a graph from like 10 years ago on the other side of the world with some of the text changed. I'm sure she'd see it as proof that the sea floor is doing something SHOCKING.
 Quoting: Marquis


Oh well...I got another one in between IPC's.

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]
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only recently nancy said

Where we are precise and remarkably accurate in our predictions, we are not perfect.
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take 2

only recently nancy said

Where we are precise and remarkably accurate in our predictions, we are not perfect.


yet today on the newest installment we are getting precise numbers again with more big calls

Aruba, Bonaire, and Curacao ride on the hump, and thus will survive. The island chain along the eastern edge of the Caribbean Plate was formed when the Caribbean Plate was pushed UP during expansion of the Atlantic. But this is countered by the hump of S America pushing the Caribbean Plate down, overall. Thus those islands in the chain close to S America will lose in elevation, while those islands at the top of the chain will not. From Antigua south, the islands in this chain can expect a minimum of an elevation drop of 57 feet, on average, with this being irregular throughout due to the trauma to the area. Islands just to the north of S America will be affected the most such that Barbados to Tobago may sink entirely except for the highest points, losing several hundred feet in elevation, and Trinidad will be torn apart in addition to sinking as it rides on the plate border.

A plate, being solid rock in layers, tends to move as one. Thus if the southern part is pushed down, it will tilt, the northern part lift up. The larger islands along the northern part of the Caribbean Plate could be assumed to gain elevation except that the entire Caribbean Plate is losing, overall. Thus the southern shores of these larger islands will experience some elevation loss, where beaches may emerge on the northern shores. To the extent that fracturing is occurring in the plate, as occurs for Haiti, fracturing can be expected. This will be a rough ride for all, with sloshing and clashing water and the Caribbean Plate which at first may seem to rise, then drop as the roll proceeds.
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Java lies along the bottom of the curve of the plate tongue holding Indonesia, and would likely experience the sinking early in the 2-3 week process. A check on the elevation of these inundated Javanese locales shows that their elevation is LOW, with coastal access, so likely to be inundated by a loss of the 80 foot sea level predicted by the Zetas.

zeta also predicted earlier that even a 50 foot drop would put jakarta under

Jakarta's elevation is close to sea level. This map shows what would occur to the region with a loss of only 50 feet in sea level elevation

[link to www.zetatalk.com]


Looks like Jakarta is a ok not a sign of sinking

[link to lewatmana.com]
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Ah, and there is ZM on cue, cheering for the banning of words he doesn't agree with, yet at the same time cowering that his own words might be banned.

Hypocritical, much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

I can always count on you guys to portray me in the WORST possible light ... possible. Short of divorcing my past support of Nancy COMPLETELY and joining the debunker ranks as an anti-Nancy extremist, you have and will continue to treat EVERY ONE of my posts - regardless of the content - as the output of a "troll".

I just don't fight it as much as I used to.
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Here's another person who can't understand orbital mechanics:

Thread: How do GEO-satellites (stationary) remain in orbit if they are NOT constantly falling around the earth? -- I'M CALLING YOU OUT!

A couple of people have explained it to him but he claims the information is all a lie. He claims to have a great intellect but offers no explanation of his own as to how satellites in geo-synchronous orbits stay up. He's definitely a candidate for Nancy's club.
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Here's another person who can't understand orbital mechanics:

Thread: How do GEO-satellites (stationary) remain in orbit if they are NOT constantly falling around the earth? -- I'M CALLING YOU OUT!

A couple of people have explained it to him but he claims the information is all a lie. He claims to have a great intellect but offers no explanation of his own as to how satellites in geo-synchronous orbits stay up. He's definitely a candidate for Nancy's club.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

That's Punisher, one of the very best trolls on GLP. He spends whole threads claiming the Earth is flat and the moon stays in orbit by bouncing off the edge of the atmosphere.
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How do you know it's him? I saw others call him that and he didn't deny it so I guess it must be.
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Well the Australian floods have started to recede. My prediction: Nancy will find a story in the next week about flooded areas in Indonesia recovering and say "Aha! The sinking is complete and is now reversing. I never said anything about it being permanent..."
 Quoting: Marquis


and she NEVER did! to the contrary, she said it WILL recede

Q.: Are parts of Australia along the Queensland coast to be permanently flooded due to elevation loss now? There is a quote in the link below that references "this hanging on for 12 months" [link to www.smh.com.au]

ZT: The establishment is desperate to prevent awareness of the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system, and has agreed among themselves that blaming rain and storm surge for the sinking of land in Indonesia would be the first volley against the ZetaTalk message. Thus, in Asia, any type of flooding, whether there has been rain or not, is blamed on rain in the media. Unexpected was the flooding in Queensland, as this had not been mentioned by ourselves. Australia was not included in the news blackout issued to cover our 7 of 10 predictions, and thus news of this flooding hit the world. We have explained that the water wash backing up rivers along the eastern coast of Queensland is due to the tilting of the Indo-Australian Plate, but as this phenomena had not been expected, the establishment was taken by surprise.

What does this mean? Is this a permanent state of affairs? That would hardly be the case, as water finds its level and the water heaped around the eastern edge of the Indo-Australian Plate is flowing in many directions to this end. The rivers will soon be flowing to the sea, unimpeded, and the flood waters draining as rapidly as they arrived.
EOZT

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Ah, andrew is making is weekly appearance. That means it must be Sunday.

But how, andrew, if the east coast of Australia is rising? Care to explain that one? The water should be pooling somewhere in the interior or start flowing to the sea on a different coast. It isn't. Which means Nancy and the "Zetas" are wrong. End of story.

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Watch this...

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Let's see how quickly she brings out the banhammer.


What, specifically, was the bannable offense? Or has it been removed already?


Banned already. Basically, I stated that none of what Nancy was claiming had actually happened and that her statement about the Eurasian, North American and Pacific plates was silly since they didn't join anywhere and provided the map shown earlier today.
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they DO join - near Japan, Bonin islands

[link to s707.photobucket.com]

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they DO join - near Japan, Bonin islands

[link to s707.photobucket.com]
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They don't join on that map. There's that pesky Philippine Plate in the way!

Do you have a problem reading maps?

[link to www.nature.nps.gov]
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I'd like to see andrew dispute what's been posted here about Nancy's "proof" that the ocean floor is dropping when, in actuality, the graphs show nothing more than the rise caused by the tides.

You know, for some reason, when andrew shows up, I can't help but to think of a character from the original Star Trek series named Landrew. He was actually nothing more than a computer that dictated to the people of the planet what they should believe and how they should act. Any non-believers were "absorbed" to maintain the greater good. Dissenters were also killed.

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How do you know it's him? I saw others call him that and he didn't deny it so I guess it must be.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

It's the writing style and the way he answers questions. The weird schizophrenic grammar, the phrases "Pinocchio science" or "gospel of science," the "HA HA HA HA HA." That's also his usual name these days, 1010900 or whatever.
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Well the Australian floods have started to recede. My prediction: Nancy will find a story in the next week about flooded areas in Indonesia recovering and say "Aha! The sinking is complete and is now reversing. I never said anything about it being permanent..."


and she NEVER did! to the contrary, she said it WILL recede

Q.: Are parts of Australia along the Queensland coast to be permanently flooded due to elevation loss now? There is a quote in the link below that references "this hanging on for 12 months" [link to www.smh.com.au]

ZT: The establishment is desperate to prevent awareness of the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system, and has agreed among themselves that blaming rain and storm surge for the sinking of land in Indonesia would be the first volley against the ZetaTalk message. Thus, in Asia, any type of flooding, whether there has been rain or not, is blamed on rain in the media. Unexpected was the flooding in Queensland, as this had not been mentioned by ourselves. Australia was not included in the news blackout issued to cover our 7 of 10 predictions, and thus news of this flooding hit the world. We have explained that the water wash backing up rivers along the eastern coast of Queensland is due to the tilting of the Indo-Australian Plate, but as this phenomena had not been expected, the establishment was taken by surprise.

What does this mean? Is this a permanent state of affairs? That would hardly be the case, as water finds its level and the water heaped around the eastern edge of the Indo-Australian Plate is flowing in many directions to this end. The rivers will soon be flowing to the sea, unimpeded, and the flood waters draining as rapidly as they arrived.
EOZT

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: andrew

That's about the Australian floods, numbskull. My prediction is that she'll start saying the INDONESIAN "sinking" would be reversed, which she's never claimed before.
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Good point. If Indonesia supposedly sank 80 ft...what's going to cause the flooding to recede? It should stay under water indefinitely. Care to explain that one Landrew?
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Comment by Nancy Lieder 33 minutes ago
Brisbane is on the coast. It is the heart of SEVERAL rivers which flow to the sea at Brisbane. ZetaTalk has stated that as the Indo-Australian Plate rises at the eastern edge (ongoing now) the waters are trapped at Queensland coastline and flow UP river. Thus, the flood at Toowoomba


care to comment andrew??

Toowoomba flash flood

came and went as a flash flood would

flowing up river ?? causing the flood at Toowoomba makes zero sense.Typical response from a believer skipping over all logical proof posted to the contrary
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Good point. If Indonesia supposedly sank 80 ft...what's going to cause the flooding to recede? It should stay under water indefinitely. Care to explain that one Landrew?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


exactly and she stated Jakarta will sink 50 to 80 feet thus keeping it underwater

Indonesian cctv is a wonderful live tool to see if its sunk yet lol
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Another thing...if the plate is rising, why is Brisbane still flooded? We should see the flooding receding from the coast working inland if the plate was really rising. That isn't happening. In addition, why hasn't the coastline gotten larger as shoreline that was once under water is being lifted upwards?

These questions, and more, will continue to be ignored and deleted by Nancy because she has no explanation and doesn't want her followers to see them and then actually start to think.

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Good point. If Indonesia supposedly sank 80 ft...what's going to cause the flooding to recede? It should stay under water indefinitely. Care to explain that one Landrew?
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yes, it should
(stay under water permanently)
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Ah, good. So, when the flooding recedes, are you going to concede that the land didn't sink? Or will you try to persuade us to believe whatever Nancy makes up to explain it away?
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Well, I'm moving. Nancy has convinced me I'm going to be squashed here in the Caribbean. So I'm going back to Fl.


LOL Actually, it's this kind of ning stupidity that's got me leaving. I've had enough of a third world country to last a lifetime. Bunch of dopes that should just spend all day bonking and boinking each other on the head like the 3 Stooges. Kind if like they do at the ning. Yeah, let's try clobbering some sense in there. May as well, nothing else is working.

Have to keep this in active threads, too funny! Ballsiest excuses for wrong predictions I've ever heard!
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hello circuit breaker

on this map you posted

[link to www.nature.nps.gov]

now that looks like the north american plate comes down and the 3 dont really join

however when looking at the location near where andrew mentioned

On this map its fair to say he is correct ??

see that corner near japan where the philippine plate stops a bit below and you get all 3 joining

[link to www.maps.com]


On the same map why does show caroline and fiji plate ?? whilst other maps dont ?
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yes, it should
(stay under water permanently)


stay tuned then hey lol

If it hasnt sunk by june this year will you think the predictions were bullshit to disceived or just running late

because you would probably have my attention if it happened suddenly like laid out

past record its like a 10000 to one chance





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